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JKurz1

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Anyone do this combo? Just wondering what your routine looked like.....it's against my normal push/pull, but I thnk I might give it a shot...........
 
it definitely could work especially if you doing full deads or rack deads...throw some stiffys in there plus your reg ham workout
 
I think you're spending too much time thinking about stuff that will be irrelevent to your results. Why do you think there is some magic split? If you're working everything once a week it's not going to be much different no matter how you arrange it.
 
Why would your work biceps before a back day? I don't really know your split but I don't think that would work out too well unless you recover extremely quickly or do mostly pullover type exercises for the back.
 
Debaser said:
I think you're spending too much time thinking about stuff that will be irrelevent to your results. Why do you think there is some magic split? If you're working everything once a week it's not going to be much different no matter how you arrange it.


AND, you spend too much time preaching your stagnant routine and pissing people off with your comments......................so we are even............
 
JKurz1 said:
AND, you spend too much time preaching your stagnant routine and pissing people off with your comments......................so we are even............

i hate debaser 90% of the time, but hes right... everytime i read a post of urs it reminds me of a lil kid asking every 5 mins, 'why is the sky blue', 'why is the grass green'. just annoying. like.. should i work out cehst and tris today, or back and traps? and then theres this ..............................................................................

take beasts advice..

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TRAIN!!!
 
TheOak84 said:
i hate debaser 90% of the time, but hes right... everytime i read a post of urs it reminds me of a lil kid asking every 5 mins, 'why is the sky blue', 'why is the grass green'. just annoying. like.. should i work out cehst and tris today, or back and traps? and then theres this ..............................................................................

take beasts advice..

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TRAIN!!!


It was a hypothetical ?, and if they bothers you, don't f-ing read them.......yur a trew brainiac and a gewd speler, great aset to this bored.

PS. Why is the sky blue, oh smart one? AND, when are you gonna lose those HUGE love handles.........not a flame, but just teeter your diet a little man, that or don't post a pic of yourself in your avat........now, THAT is annoying.
 
JKurz1 said:
AND, you spend too much time preaching your stagnant routine and pissing people off with your comments......................so we are even............

You asked for opinions bro. That's mine. I'm not preaching a specific routine towards you, I'm just saying that all the ones you keep listing aren't going to make one bit of difference. Weider was a businessman and a scam-artist, drop his bullshit training ideologies.
 
JKurz1 said:
PS. Why is the sky blue, oh smart one? AND, when are you gonna lose those HUGE love handles.........not a flame, but just teeter your diet a little man, that or don't post a pic of yourself in your avat........now, THAT is annoying.

that's a mature response...I think you just proved Oaks "little kid" theory
 
Debaser said:
You asked for opinions bro. That's mine. I'm not preaching a specific routine towards you, I'm just saying that all the ones you keep listing aren't going to make one bit of difference. Weider was a businessman and a scam-artist, drop his bullshit training ideologies.
agreed
 
JKurz1 said:
It was a hypothetical ?, and if they bothers you, don't f-ing read them.......yur a trew brainiac and a gewd speler, great aset to this bored.

PS. Why is the sky blue, oh smart one? AND, when are you gonna lose those HUGE love handles.........not a flame, but just teeter your diet a little man, that or don't post a pic of yourself in your avat........now, THAT is annoying.
oak, if your not 6'2 178 your fat!! :rolleyes:
 
Training back and hamstrings together could help you spur some new growth. Have you ever put some good mornings in your training rotation before? You could try some GM's, they will beef up both your hammies and back, plus they will help your squat #'s also. Good luck
 
putting a different bodypart with another one isnt going to spur more growth, its basically doing the same thing but doing it a different day.
 
JKurz1 said:
PS. Why is the sky blue, oh smart one? AND, when are you gonna lose those HUGE love handles.........not a flame, but just teeter your diet a little man, that or don't post a pic of yourself in your avat........now, THAT is annoying.

If that's not a flame I don't know what is, J.
 
DieHarder said:
oak, if your not 6'2 178 your fat!! :rolleyes:

ya, im a foot shorter and a foot wider :)

im 5'3 185. that pic is a year old... i dont look the same, and i have less bf..

either way, i know im big, i know im strong, others do too. a lil kid from ohio, where ever the fuck that is, cant and wont offend me :)
 
Lol......relax.....I hate being a little kid from Ohio.......can't you see that? That's why I'm trying to pair different muscle groups together, so maybe, one day, if I'm really lucky, i can get to be as big as "The Oak"......Debaser....PM.......no need to trash these boards........
 
i think your completely missing the point. Pairing different muscle groups if you are doing the same split same sets/reps isnt going to do anything significant. Why not try a routine where you are hitting bodyparts more than once a week instead of beating the shit out of them once a week!?!? The answer has been obvious for a while, you are either
A. overtraining (cardio everyday, too many sets)
B. You change exercises way too often
C. You think about everything way too much
we all know you know about diet, so its not that.
send a message to the muscle, it will grow, let it rest, then send it again. Theres no magic here. People say "well arnold did high volume blah blah" but he ALSO worked each bodypart more than once a week, point being, if doing that kind of split isnt working for you anymore, CHANGE it!! THE WHOLE ROUTINE, NOT which bodyparts are paired together while still hitting the muscle once a week. Seriously try it, you might surprise yourself.
 
JKurz1 said:
Anyone do this combo? Just wondering what your routine looked like.....it's against my normal push/pull, but I thnk I might give it a shot...........

I don't know why these things have to end up in a pissing match!! It really sucks!

Anyway, I always train legs alone. It just takes so much out of me I don't feel like I could hit another body part. Doesn't mean it won't work and there's NOTHING wrong with changing up your routine. As a matter of fact it is one of the best ways to keep growing! Do whatever works for you broand just let the results say the rest.
 
I love this shit, nothing better than watching a bunch of people behind keyboards fuck eachother up!!!! LOL

But anyways, I think change is good, but that means sticking with something for about 6-8 weeks then change, I also belive that pairing up body parts are essential, like he said I dont think training Bi's before Back is to smart, neither is Tri's before Chest. If I kill my tris on monday, and then try to go heavy on chest on tuesday, I will have a less productive workout cuz it is still in that 48 hour recovery period, even the HST guys preach about.

just my .02

and please please, I hope the flamin continues it keeps me entertained here in hell!
 
damn, i had no idea how out of order jkurz1 can be. i should visit more often. but that's ridiculous, joke or otherwise. needs to stop.
 
jackangel said:
damn, i had no idea how out of order jkurz1 can be. i should visit more often. but that's ridiculous, joke or otherwise. needs to stop.
ME???? You don't know half of it.....but anyways, amends were made and its over.......man, "out of line"....cmon...it's all good. :verygood:
 
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