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jonny jacked
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Wow fonz that shoulder injury looks pretty nasty. Hope it heels quickly for you. Now, just a quick clarification if you could please fonz, I must be missing something here. You mentioned in your post that that particular shoulder injury which you claim to have received mountain biking occurred three weeks prior. But just a mere 6 pages back when people were alluding to what your current condition was you posted a pic
- (post # 291 may 29) – which might I add gives a great angle on your “injured shoulder” except I don’t see any bruising, scarring etc. in fact, I don’t see any evidence of any type of injury in that “current” pic
So, for an injury which you claimed occurred 3 weeks prior to June 4 – where so said and I quote “The skin was pretty much scorched,” (in reference to that horrible biking accident) – I must say, something just does not add up. Care to comment?
I for one would like to see a pic where we can clearly see your face and a clear shot of your shoulder. And just to make it perfectly clear when the pic was taken, hold up a copy of a current days newspaper.
So Fonzinator, Have you ever heard of a little game called bullshit? Well, it’s my call and I call BULLSHIT!
- (post # 291 may 29) – which might I add gives a great angle on your “injured shoulder” except I don’t see any bruising, scarring etc. in fact, I don’t see any evidence of any type of injury in that “current” pic
So, for an injury which you claimed occurred 3 weeks prior to June 4 – where so said and I quote “The skin was pretty much scorched,” (in reference to that horrible biking accident) – I must say, something just does not add up. Care to comment?
I for one would like to see a pic where we can clearly see your face and a clear shot of your shoulder. And just to make it perfectly clear when the pic was taken, hold up a copy of a current days newspaper.
So Fonzinator, Have you ever heard of a little game called bullshit? Well, it’s my call and I call BULLSHIT!
GoodDoer756
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LOL, wouldn't be the first time...actually that would be the understatement of the year. This should be good.
Bulldog_10 said:
A hairline fracture is also known as a stress fracture. It is a minor fracture in which the bone continues to be in perfect alignment. The fracture appears on an x-ray as a very thin "hairline" between the two segments, it does not extend through the entire surface of the bone.
Bulldog_10 said:
Ah...but as you've stated here these fractures are injuries of repetitive overuse and occur in weight bearing bones (like in the ankles or feet). More than half of these types of fractures occur in the lower leg.
A good example would be if Fonz had a stress fracture in his metatarsal from playing too much soccer without enough rest, and possibly switching surfaces from grass to turf.
And again, my leeches surface. What surprise....lol
I don't need to explain anything to you. You are not part of this contest. I actually debated just forgetting about it, and saying nothing because I knew this would happen. Just letting it heal while doing light cardio. I'm starting off in better shape than eviction so i had a lot of room to spare, so cutting my time to 4 weeks was not unthinkable to me. But this is supposed to be a fair contest....so I posted it. Now Eviction gets more time to prepare while I still have to let my shoulder heal.
So what EXACTLY do I gain by saying this?
Nothing.....I'm actually still losing preparation time.
Now, do everybody the favor of getting OUT of this thread or I will ask for your posts to simply get edited. This is just another one of those pathetic anti-Fonz campaigns of yours. And i have neither the time nor the patience to answer you.
I don't need to explain anything to you. You are not part of this contest. I actually debated just forgetting about it, and saying nothing because I knew this would happen. Just letting it heal while doing light cardio. I'm starting off in better shape than eviction so i had a lot of room to spare, so cutting my time to 4 weeks was not unthinkable to me. But this is supposed to be a fair contest....so I posted it. Now Eviction gets more time to prepare while I still have to let my shoulder heal.
So what EXACTLY do I gain by saying this?
Nothing.....I'm actually still losing preparation time.
Now, do everybody the favor of getting OUT of this thread or I will ask for your posts to simply get edited. This is just another one of those pathetic anti-Fonz campaigns of yours. And i have neither the time nor the patience to answer you.
shortstack
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bikes?? like motorcycles? if yes what kind??
GoodDoer756
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Fonz, you still didn't explain why you had no shoulder injury in you previous "current" pic. Eviction wanted an explanation as well...maybe you owe it to him as he's the one competing against you.
MrRTTB
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I feel I need to say a few things here.
eviction: Sure you are cut, but not nearly as Fonz, I think everyone agree on that. You need more pecs and thicker back. You need to start working on your pecs more serious or change your program or something. Do not take this the wrong way, but as you posted your pics I hope you can take the "critique"..the gyno will be no problem getting rid of, more pecs and less gyno and you will look very good.
Fonz: Are you always this fucking cut? Hope you do not have any eating disorder or something. You look pretty much like me, only difference is I have bigger pecs and thicker back, wider sholders and bigger abs, but then again I compete and have placed Nr 1 in symet. every time. If I would be you I would probably stop the on season look after the summer, and start eating more for a while. I think it would make you good. I've never seen your quads, hams or calfs so shoot a pic and post it.
Why don't you just start a competition, like the "Elitefitness body contest" or something. Where everyone could join with pictures. You compete height classes.
eviction: Sure you are cut, but not nearly as Fonz, I think everyone agree on that. You need more pecs and thicker back. You need to start working on your pecs more serious or change your program or something. Do not take this the wrong way, but as you posted your pics I hope you can take the "critique"..the gyno will be no problem getting rid of, more pecs and less gyno and you will look very good.
Fonz: Are you always this fucking cut? Hope you do not have any eating disorder or something. You look pretty much like me, only difference is I have bigger pecs and thicker back, wider sholders and bigger abs, but then again I compete and have placed Nr 1 in symet. every time. If I would be you I would probably stop the on season look after the summer, and start eating more for a while. I think it would make you good. I've never seen your quads, hams or calfs so shoot a pic and post it.
Why don't you just start a competition, like the "Elitefitness body contest" or something. Where everyone could join with pictures. You compete height classes.
Lumberg
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I've had my issues with Fonz but damn guys the haters need to get their panties out of their ass cracks.
Nitpicking over "stress fracture" vs. "hairline fracture." GEEZ
Let the photos speak for themselves. After the JA/satchboogie debacle I am looking forward to seeing a couple of impressive physiques here. Don't ruin it.
Nitpicking over "stress fracture" vs. "hairline fracture." GEEZ
Let the photos speak for themselves. After the JA/satchboogie debacle I am looking forward to seeing a couple of impressive physiques here. Don't ruin it.
MrRTTB said:
i appreciate the critique. My chest has always been lacking, but its slowly building up nicely. I've been working hard all around, and I expect to win this competition. I'm hittin the gyno as hard as I can with some nolva and b6.. it is cowering away slowly but surely.
Bulldog_10
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Lumberg said:Nitpicking over "stress fracture" vs. "hairline fracture." GEEZ
I wasn't nitpicking DICK!
I was just curious. Whenever I see a medical diagnosis or something like that it interests me cuz I went to school for that type of shit.
little chris
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Hey fonz do you ever bulk up. I mean like just let yourself go and pack on some winter pounds. It seems your weight never changes more than 10lbs and you BF never goes above 7%. Is it because of your staying in shape for soccer?
shortstack said:
Like this:
why does he have to have an eating disorder to be cut 24/7? i can see your point of view bro dont get me wrong. but if and when i get down to that body fat level you can call me anything you want. eating disorder and bodybuilding go hand in hand its like a habit, nicotine,alcohol,coke, we just choose to shove "good" food down our pipes at least for me. i dont drink/smoke/do pills/do drugs...i just lift hard and eat good
little chris said:
I was going all out for this contest. Right now sitting at 201lbs at about 10%(I am holding water).
I decided it would be cool to see just how big I could get in 6 weeks. Right now, just trying to keep the mass with lots and lots of PShakes and light cardio.(> 10% I consider fat for me)
Once my shoulder heals, I'll still be going all out. My goal is 195lbs < 6% BF.
Thats 20lbs over my normal weight in musculature.
strongsmartsexy
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Fonz said:
Ok, I have a question. At 12 today you posted the following:
Fonz said:
What is it you did to lose 6lbs in 7ish hours?
wnt2bBeast
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strongsmartsexy said:
id package that and make millions $$$$
strongsmartsexy
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eviction said:
That's a lot of sweating/pissing. Arimidex will allow one to lose that much that quickly? What dose does that?
strongsmartsexy
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manny78 said:Take some Fleet oral laxative with a powerful diuretic and I swear you'll 6lbs that fast
What does that do to you after though? That's some drastic reduction.
strongsmartsexy
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eviction said:
I believe you, it's just amazing to me. I'm happy if I can drop 2 - 3 lbs in a day due to water reduction.
strongsmartsexy
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eviction said:
No, I haven't. I would rather stick to things more predictable and not nearly so dangerous. Dehydration isn't high up on my list of the top 100 things I want to do to myself.
Bulldog_10
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It may be possible with some drastic moves like you guys mentioned...but why would fonz do this weeks before the final event? I could see if the pics were due tomorrow...but why now?
manny78 said:Take some Fleet oral laxative with a powerful diuretic and I swear you'll 6lbs that fast
Plus it's so FUN to lose it that way!
bicepts101
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i wanna hear some trash talk....let hear some...freindly of course
hey, this thread is now internationally famous!
http://www.fitnessprat.no/forum/showthread.php?t=7453&goto=nextnewest
http://www.fitnessprat.no/forum/showthread.php?t=7453&goto=nextnewest
Bulldog_10
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eviction said:
LOL...anyone know what any of that says?
strongsmartsexy
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georgie24 said:
georgieboy, some of us fools are just learning about some of the finer points of this stuff. So cut us some slack. Outside of being violently ill with the FLU I've never lost that much weight in seven hours EVER. And the weight that I do lose comes off at the rate of about 2lbs per week or so. Thanks for the understanding that makes these boards such a much of a pain in the ass to get information off at times.
Lumberg said:
LUMBERG! I know you didnt say that.
Caffiene will dehydrate you like a mofo. I should make you move your desk to the basement for that.
Lumberg
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Fonz said:
I read a study from about a year ago when they took a bunch of people and divided them into two groups. One group got 8 oz of coffee and the other group got 8 oz of water. The difference in urine output between the groups over the next several hours was not statistically significant.
jubei and anya PWNED 342q/45324231/432 c
Lumberg said:
Eight ounces? First I'd say that's a very modest amount of coffee, and second I'd say the liquid measure of the coffee is by itself meaningless. We'd need to know the caffiene content in milligrams before we could begin to make any conclusions regarding the potency of caffiene as a duiretic.
Now reverting back to anecdotal evidence upon which I based my first post, I know that when I use 3 TBs of very finely ground coffee to make about 12 ounces of brewed coffee I'm pissing like a race horse and my mouth is dry as a bone within a few hours.
Lumberg said:
Wuss all this bidness about?
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Lumberg
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anya said:
When you're stressed out you tend to pee more. And coffee stresses you out. Presume the coffee administered in the test was just your average tall Starbucks coffee. So like 150 mg of caffeine.
You haven't been here long enough to get the pwned part, but I'll let it slide this time.
Also weren't u supposed to mail me something?
eviction said:
A week maybe two. I've been taking HgH shots in the AM to speed up the bone healing process. 3 IU's/day. I hate injuries.....specially ones that don't let you do practically anything because of the pain. All I can do is eat clean and use my bike at home every AM for 45 minutes.(Thats all I can do before my shoulder starts to hurt).
I'm dropping fat basically at a very, very slow rate. Increased Kcals as to not sacrifice any muscle tissue.
The comp is still on, I just got sidetracked due to sheer bad luck.
It was sheer luck I got hold of the GH. It's working well. I do hate waking up at 6 Am to do 1.5hrs of very light cardio on my stationary bike at home though. Which really sucks. But you got to do what you got to do and suck it up. Besides, it wakes you up... I do miss HIT training though. I'm about 194lbs right now. BF% dropping slowly but surely. 9.5% or so. Hard to measure .5% with the calipers. The calipers acuracy impedes this. But mirror wise...I'm getting leaner. Abs are pretty much in shape. Same deal with back, legs, and arms. All I have to do is hit chest/shoulders/calves when my shoulder finally heals. I give it a week and a half thanks to the GH.
I do miss HIT training though. I'm about 194lbs right now. BF% dropping slowly but surely. 9.5% or so. Hard to measure .5% with the calipers. The calipers acuracy impedes this. But mirror wise...I'm getting leaner. Abs are pretty much in shape. Same deal with back, legs, and arms. All I have to do is hit chest/shoulders/calves when my shoulder finally heals. I give it a week and a half thanks to the GH.
LOL.....we even have Norwegians here.
Had no idea.
Anyways, about the caffeine thing, in my case it's more of an ergogenic aid than a diuretic. I don't notice any type of diuresis when i use it. Both i9n Coffee and in caffeine anhydrous pills. Btw, coffee doesn't offer the same ergogenic aid as caffeine in pure form(anhydrous), due to the fact that it's a complex mixture of organic aromatic oils with caffeine.
For a diuretic combo I use Uva ursi and dandelion root. Just buy the ingredients of "Taraxatone" By cyotdyne separately(use the same ratios). They are dirt cheap and they work reasonably well. Obviously not as good as Lasix or Dyazide but I don't even come near pharmaceutical diuretics, I deem them to be too dangerous. One screw up, and you'll end up horizontal(i.e. dead) due to high hematocrit levels(Around 60 or so).
Had no idea.
Anyways, about the caffeine thing, in my case it's more of an ergogenic aid than a diuretic. I don't notice any type of diuresis when i use it. Both i9n Coffee and in caffeine anhydrous pills. Btw, coffee doesn't offer the same ergogenic aid as caffeine in pure form(anhydrous), due to the fact that it's a complex mixture of organic aromatic oils with caffeine.
For a diuretic combo I use Uva ursi and dandelion root. Just buy the ingredients of "Taraxatone" By cyotdyne separately(use the same ratios). They are dirt cheap and they work reasonably well. Obviously not as good as Lasix or Dyazide but I don't even come near pharmaceutical diuretics, I deem them to be too dangerous. One screw up, and you'll end up horizontal(i.e. dead) due to high hematocrit levels(Around 60 or so).
benevolent anarchist
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lol! Fonz is one popular guy. All you have to do is put “Fonz” in your thread title and you’ll soon have 10,000++ views. lol!
ringperm
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Fonz said:LOL.....we even have Norwegians here.
Yes there are, and I suspect there are quite a few of us lurking about. We're taking over the world......Ok maybe not
This is an interesting thread, on an interesting forum, and I see quite often references from EF and other american forums on various norwegian forums. Lots of knowledgeable and entertaining people here, so it's absolutely worth checking into.
Good luck to you both, by the way.
bicepts101
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ringperm said:Yes there are, and I suspect there are quite a few of us lurking about. We're taking over the world......Ok maybe not
This is an interesting thread, on an interesting forum, and I see quite often references from EF and other american forums on various norwegian forums. Lots of knowledgeable and entertaining people here, so it's absolutely worth checking into.
Good luck to you both, by the way.
yeah stick around man.....you're more than welcome to offer what u got
season7445
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Hey whats up? I new to the board and it is great seeing this kind of competition. I'm excited to see the final pics and read the daily updates. good luck guys!!!
Oh by the way i am the shit and i'll beat all you guys!! JK LOL!!!! HA HA HA!!
Oh by the way i am the shit and i'll beat all you guys!! JK LOL!!!! HA HA HA!!
my contriburion will be severely limited, but I'll do what I can. Karma for you my friend Fonz said:It was sheer luck I got hold of the GH. It's working well. I do hate waking up at 6 Am to do 1.5hrs of very light cardio on my stationary bike at home though. Which really sucks. But you got to do what you got to do and suck it up. Besides, it wakes you up...
Dam Fonz..1.5 hours of light cardio....Is that everyday? Or for this contest? Your a Mad Genius thats all I got to say....
dieting is going good. skin is thinning up nicely in the abs area. Gyno is almost gone thanks to novladex. The only change i've made to my diet is no fast food. I'll be changing that shortly as my diet begins today when i start hittin this light var only cycle. I'm going to up my protein intake, lower my carb intake, and reduce the sodium by about 300%.
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CutEnough
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You're getting lean - looks good!
TrailerParkTrash
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I just spend the last hour going through all this thread... two thumbs up to all of you for the great progress
Fonz said:191.5lbs...BF% dropping due to GH+combo of Levorex and Yohimburn ES.
Should be about 9% now. My 6-pack is completely there. Back is striated pretty good too. 1 more week and it's time to hit chest and legs like crazy. Oh yeah, and I hate stationary bikes.
hey fonzy, how about you send me me some of that extra gear you have in storage,.. im broke and can't afford even 1/10 the amount of drugs you are on!
IwouldSlamU
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FONZ-----he will win IMO that does not mean I like his cocky attude, but his cuts are great.
orange juice authority
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Fonz said:191.5lbs...BF% dropping due to GH+combo of Levorex and Yohimburn ES.
Should be about 9% now. My 6-pack is completely there. Back is striated pretty good too. 1 more week and it's time to hit chest and legs like crazy. Oh yeah, and I hate stationary bikes.
Is this guy a walking pharmacy or what. What aren't you on bro? Eviction has the good genetics, however you are definitly ahead in the cuts department. Strange ab development as well as what looks to be a very wide waist.
eviction said:
This is what I'm on:
1. Fina at 75mg ED
2. T3 at 25mcgs/day
3. Test at 250mg/week
4. Proviron at 25mg ED
5. Novaldex at 10mg/day(This is more for lipids than anyhting else)
6. HgH at 3-4IU's/day(I only have enough for 2 weeks...IMO just enough to see some improvement in my shoulder)
That's it for drugs.
Now supplements is another story:
1. Yohimburn ES(legs) ED.
2. Ab-Solved(abs) ED.
3. Levorexin at 16 caps/day + 1 cap GT/day + 1 cap ALCar/day
4. Glut. Peptides: 2 Scoops/day
5. T2 at 400mcgs/day
6. ISO-AGB at 2-3 scoops/day
7. Whey Protein Isolate at 4-5 scoops/day
8. Policosanol at 30mg/day + vIT. c 2G/DAY + 1200iu Vit. E
9. R-ALA: 600-1000mgs/day
I do not use ECA. Makes my hands shake. I hate that. Too bad AF had to discontinue NYC.
All I'm doing right now is very, very light cardio for 1-1.5hrs(40% HR)/day + I increased fat calories and protein calories to compensate(Don't want to lose muscle).
What I do know is that 2-3 days of Glut. Peptides+ISO-AGB+Whey Protein Isolate+some fat(P. Butter) gives you outstanding results. Great combo for breaking a plateau.
S
Saint_Dogg
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Fonz said:
hello, i am new here but not new to the game. sorry to say but Fonz i have seen your pics from before and now and you really have made no changes yet still insist on taking all this shit. better make some changes or you will continue to make no improvements. i have been there before and a few tweaks in my training is all it took for me to make noticeable changes. goodluck
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