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Mayweather is a great fighter, but come on whats he weigh about 150. Who cares, I don't think he hits as hard as it looks. He is hitting other 150 lb bitches.
 
the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent. they are elite athletes no? mayweather could whoop any 300lbs bber with about 3 punches. he is not striving to be the biggest.
 
justinjones1963 said:
Wait until Mayweather fights De La Hoya...then he is the one going to get an azz whoopin!
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i'll tell you who floyd needs to fight and its paul williams. the 6 2 welter weight with a 7 foot arm span. that dude is a beast. that will be a good fight. oscar is gonna get tko'd just like gatti did. and gjohnson don't get so upset, jones tested hot for nandrolone so its relevant to roids lol
 
bruce410 said:
the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent. they are elite athletes no? mayweather could whoop any 300lbs bber with about 3 punches. he is not striving to be the biggest.
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Thats funny, that he could knock out a 300 lb'er with 3 punches. Do you not understand why little guys don't fight big guys? Its because their punching power isn't that great, and if they get caught by a punch from the bigger guy, its usually lights out for the little guy. I wasn't referring to a bodybuilder, because most are flexible or quick enough to actually fight. If it was a street fight and Maywhether tried whopping someone that was about 220-230, I don't think he could. He may be fast, but the power he has doesn't mean a lot when your hitting a bigger target.

He is not striving to be the biggest, thats because he most likely can't. Not a lot of boxers can move up through the weight ranges and do well. Some do, but most can't, because they lack the natural hitting power that the heavier people have naturally. Look at Maywether, he probably doesn't have to lose a lot of weight to get into his division anyway. He is structurally small. If he tried moving up he wouldn't do well. Maybe 1 division, but probably not anymore than that.

Boxing as a sport is no more. There are way too many titles out there, and the promoters have ruined the sport. How many heavyweight champs are there, like 10 or something. What do they have 3 main ones, the IBF, WBC, and one other. Why??? There should be 1 champion per division. This is why boxing is suffering and it will never reclaim its glory that it once had in the 50's - 80's.
 
Plus, not a lot of people really give a shit about seeing some welterweights, cruiser's, or bantam's fighting each other.
 
mlong23 said:
Thats funny, that he could knock out a 300 lb'er with 3 punches. Do you not understand why little guys don't fight big guys? Its because their punching power isn't that great, and if they get caught by a punch from the bigger guy, its usually lights out for the little guy. I wasn't referring to a bodybuilder, because most are flexible or quick enough to actually fight. If it was a street fight and Maywhether tried whopping someone that was about 220-230, I don't think he could. He may be fast, but the power he has doesn't mean a lot when your hitting a bigger target.

He is not striving to be the biggest, thats because he most likely can't. Not a lot of boxers can move up through the weight ranges and do well. Some do, but most can't, because they lack the natural hitting power that the heavier people have naturally. Look at Maywether, he probably doesn't have to lose a lot of weight to get into his division anyway. He is structurally small. If he tried moving up he wouldn't do well. Maybe 1 division, but probably not anymore than that.

Boxing as a sport is no more. There are way too many titles out there, and the promoters have ruined the sport. How many heavyweight champs are there, like 10 or something. What do they have 3 main ones, the IBF, WBC, and one other. Why??? There should be 1 champion per division. This is why boxing is suffering and it will never reclaim its glory that it once had in the 50's - 80's.
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Mayweather would be very dangerous in a street situation. I don't care if you are 300 pounds and can bench press 600. Once you get popped about 10 times in the face and floating ribs before you can even blink you are going out..... That guy's hands are like a machine gun.
 
bruce410 said:
i'll tell you who floyd needs to fight and its paul williams. the 6 2 welter weight with a 7 foot arm span. that dude is a beast. that will be a good fight. oscar is gonna get tko'd just like gatti did. and gjohnson don't get so upset, jones tested hot for nandrolone so its relevant to roids lol
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The Punisher is the man reminds of Hearns. I think Oscar beats Mayweather.
 
mlong23 said:
Plus, not a lot of people really give a shit about seeing some welterweights, cruiser's, or bantam's fighting each other.
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Lighter division are the best to watch Heavyweights are to boring.
 
shootfighter1975 said:
Mayweather would be very dangerous in a street situation. I don't care if you are 300 pounds and can bench press 600. Once you get popped about 10 times in the face and floating ribs before you can even blink you are going out..... That guy's hands are like a machine gun.
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Yea, but the problem is once you get the fucker in your hands he's gone. Look at the UFC fights, once the strikers get taken to the ground most are out of it.

Again, I'm not saying that he isn't a good or even great boxer, but in a streetfight you use more than your hands. He is dangerous in any situation, but do not think that he could kick ass against a 200+ lb. person as opposed to those that weigh as much as he does.

Just my opinion.
 
mookie said:
Lighter division are the best to watch Heavyweights are to boring.
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I agree, but the problem is that most of those guys don't have the power for the knockouts like the heavyweights. Some do, but I think that most don't.

The Heavyweight division sucks, becuase there isn't anyone good anymore. The bigger athletes are playing sports like football. Imagine Juilius Peppers in a ring, thats scary.
 
bruce410 said:
the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent.
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Because when you dump all your shit in the same place, nobody can find what they're looking for. That's why AOL sucks -- so few of their users understand that THERE IS A PLACE TO PUT STUFF and stuff needs to go WHERE IT BELONGS.
 
bruce410 said:
the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent. they are elite athletes no? mayweather could whoop any 300lbs bber with about 3 punches. he is not striving to be the biggest.
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fuck em. I'm glad you posted it here. All the cool bros are here, and the other boards suck ass and never have anyone on them. Just like when I post in the diet forum, i will get one freakin response, and the same threads will be at the top for days. Thats stupid. If you got 2 trash compactors, and 1 works better than the other, why put "shit" in both of them? right you dont, you use the good one.

anyways bro boxing has much to do with AAS. K
 
140 is the best fighting division in boxing. actually no one watches the heavyweights bro. they haven't since tyson and before that ali and frazier who were not mammoth beasts. i'm not gonna get into a pissing match but put jay cutler in the ring with him. he doesn't touch mayweather once and is knocked out in 3 minutes. they have more punching power than a guy that benches 500lbs because that is what they train for.

sorry DIGGER i dont see what the big deal is. sorry i messed up the search engine that everyone uses so much since i have answered the same damn question 1000 times. you gave me red, that is pretty weak to do to a long time guy like me. whatever.
mlong23 said:
Thats funny, that he could knock out a 300 lb'er with 3 punches. Do you not understand why little guys don't fight big guys? Its because their punching power isn't that great, and if they get caught by a punch from the bigger guy, its usually lights out for the little guy. I wasn't referring to a bodybuilder, because most are flexible or quick enough to actually fight. If it was a street fight and Maywhether tried whopping someone that was about 220-230, I don't think he could. He may be fast, but the power he has doesn't mean a lot when your hitting a bigger target.

He is not striving to be the biggest, thats because he most likely can't. Not a lot of boxers can move up through the weight ranges and do well. Some do, but most can't, because they lack the natural hitting power that the heavier people have naturally. Look at Maywether, he probably doesn't have to lose a lot of weight to get into his division anyway. He is structurally small. If he tried moving up he wouldn't do well. Maybe 1 division, but probably not anymore than that.

Boxing as a sport is no more. There are way too many titles out there, and the promoters have ruined the sport. How many heavyweight champs are there, like 10 or something. What do they have 3 main ones, the IBF, WBC, and one other. Why??? There should be 1 champion per division. This is why boxing is suffering and it will never reclaim its glory that it once had in the 50's - 80's.
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also factor in mlong that mayweather came up from 130 to 150 and is still dominating and roy jones started at 135 and won belts all the way up to heavyweight. so their power is relevant regardless of the weight you fight at.
 
bruce410 said:
you gave me red, that is pretty weak to do to a long time guy like me. whatever.
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Digger, that is bullshit. I'm sure it makes you feel important tho. Too bad 410 gets hit with green every EF'n day. :coffee:
 
To reply to everything:

1) Fighters in the 140 +/- range are fun to watch. Pac-Man, Mayweather, Cotto are all fun to watch. The action is with the lighter guys - they hammer each other for 12 straiht rounds.

2) The HW division is heating up. The Boxing Banker just cashed his last check and got KTFO. There are some exciting figthers to watch. Peter has a chin of steel and the powder to back it up. Wvlad is making waves again. James Toney, despite all of the hype, has a good chin and can box.

3) Look at Mayweather's KO record - it sucks. DLH has speed and powder. Mayweather is probably faster but his chin has not been tested. If DLH comes in at top form he is going to give Maweather a run for his money. Gatti is a very limited fighter, so is Baldomir. DLH is a class A fighter and the fight with Mayweather is not going to be a cake walk for Maywether.

4) RJJ, IMHO, did go up against some decent fighters but he backs down from a ton too. Beating Ruiz at the HW level was a joke. Huggy Bear simply didn't have the speed or skills. You look at the fighters he fought in the 160-170's and RJJ should have stepped up to better competition. He dodged fighters like Calzaghe. Gimmie a break. A good comparison is Toney. I am not a big Toney fan but I give him tons of credit for stepping up to every word that comes out of his big mouth. The man went at it with Peter and took those hits and IMO won that fight. He also stepped up to the best fighters at the time from the 160's all the way up to his curent weight.

On a final note Winky Wright should be getting a hell of a lot more credit than he gets. The way he beat the hell out of Tito was superb. IMO he beat Taylor too. He is also another fighter that step up to the plate when the time comes. Too bad Mayweather and RJJ couldn't follow in his footsteps. Mayweather is a very good fighter. Definitely top 5 P4P out there today but if he wants to go down in history as a great, or the greatest fighter, he needs to clean the floor with DLH, then go after Cotto (who Mayweather would beat I believe), Margarito and most importantly Hatton.
 
i will tell you right now, i agree about winky. i think winky is the most underated fighter there is. but he does not have the flash and willingness to gamble to get his credit. i disagree about floyds jaw, it was tested against gatti, baldomir who knocked out gatti, and zab judah. i love ricky hatton as well. roy jones destroyed bernard hopkins with a broken right hand, he destroyed james toney, he beat down ruiz and called out tyson and lewis neither of whom would fight him. roy fought every undefeated champ they threw at him and didn't want to fight bernard at 160 again, he happily would have fought him at light heavy. now with bernard coming back maybe they will go again but it would have been better earlier. roy jones is the most talented fighter ever and though he did not have the competition that ali, leonard, hagler had, but you have to think to yourself, put roy jones in the ring with ray leonard, he kills ray, put him in the ring with hagler he wins, anyone you name it young roy tears them a new asshole. so just cause he made everyone he fought look like nothing doesn't mean they were nothing. why would he fight bernard or toney again when he beat them so badly and then moved up in weight for more of a challenge. floyd mayweather, cotto, hatton, paul willliams, and shane mosley all have to fight eachother. roy is getting to old now but had ne never come down for tarver he would still be taking names. just can't drop 40lbs in a month when you are 36
justinjones1963 said:
To reply to everything:

1) Fighters in the 140 +/- range are fun to watch. Pac-Man, Mayweather, Cotto are all fun to watch. The action is with the lighter guys - they hammer each other for 12 straiht rounds.

2) The HW division is heating up. The Boxing Banker just cashed his last check and got KTFO. There are some exciting figthers to watch. Peter has a chin of steel and the powder to back it up. Wvlad is making waves again. James Toney, despite all of the hype, has a good chin and can box.

3) Look at Mayweather's KO record - it sucks. DLH has speed and powder. Mayweather is probably faster but his chin has not been tested. If DLH comes in at top form he is going to give Maweather a run for his money. Gatti is a very limited fighter, so is Baldomir. DLH is a class A fighter and the fight with Mayweather is not going to be a cake walk for Maywether.

4) RJJ, IMHO, did go up against some decent fighters but he backs down from a ton too. Beating Ruiz at the HW level was a joke. Huggy Bear simply didn't have the speed or skills. You look at the fighters he fought in the 160-170's and RJJ should have stepped up to better competition. He dodged fighters like Calzaghe. Gimmie a break. A good comparison is Toney. I am not a big Toney fan but I give him tons of credit for stepping up to every word that comes out of his big mouth. The man went at it with Peter and took those hits and IMO won that fight. He also stepped up to the best fighters at the time from the 160's all the way up to his curent weight.

On a final note Winky Wright should be getting a hell of a lot more credit than he gets. The way he beat the hell out of Tito was superb. IMO he beat Taylor too. He is also another fighter that step up to the plate when the time comes. Too bad Mayweather and RJJ couldn't follow in his footsteps. Mayweather is a very good fighter. Definitely top 5 P4P out there today but if he wants to go down in history as a great, or the greatest fighter, he needs to clean the floor with DLH, then go after Cotto (who Mayweather would beat I believe), Margarito and most importantly Hatton.
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mlong23 said:
Boxing as a sport is no more. There are way too many titles out there, and the promoters have ruined the sport. How many heavyweight champs are there, like 10 or something. What do they have 3 main ones, the IBF, WBC, and one other. Why??? There should be 1 champion per division. This is why boxing is suffering and it will never reclaim its glory that it once had in the 50's - 80's.
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I disagree with your comment that "boxing is a sport no more." The fighters are fierce, hard working competitors who fight their heart out, and get paid for it. By that theory, MMA is not a sport either, due to the fact that more than 2 organizations claim to have the best champion.
It's not perfect, but it's still a sport.
Also, I don't think anyone can claim that boxing will NEVER reclaim its former glory. Stranger things have happened.
 
bruce410 said:
i will tell you right now, i agree about winky. i think winky is the most underated fighter there is. but he does not have the flash and willingness to gamble to get his credit. i disagree about floyds jaw, it was tested against gatti, baldomir who knocked out gatti, and zab judah. i love ricky hatton as well. roy jones destroyed bernard hopkins with a broken right hand, he destroyed james toney, he beat down ruiz and called out tyson and lewis neither of whom would fight him. roy fought every undefeated champ they threw at him and didn't want to fight bernard at 160 again, he happily would have fought him at light heavy. now with bernard coming back maybe they will go again but it would have been better earlier. roy jones is the most talented fighter ever and though he did not have the competition that ali, leonard, hagler had, but you have to think to yourself, put roy jones in the ring with ray leonard, he kills ray, put him in the ring with hagler he wins, anyone you name it young roy tears them a new asshole. so just cause he made everyone he fought look like nothing doesn't mean they were nothing. why would he fight bernard or toney again when he beat them so badly and then moved up in weight for more of a challenge. floyd mayweather, cotto, hatton, paul willliams, and shane mosley all have to fight eachother. roy is getting to old now but had ne never come down for tarver he would still be taking names. just can't drop 40lbs in a month when you are 36
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Dead on. A friend of mine who I always discuss boxing with talks about guys you are unlucky enough to come during a time where there isn't any competition. He always talks about young Tyson being one of those guys. My response to him is always this. I think a guy can also be unlucky enough to be so good, that no matter how good his competition actually is compared to other fights of all time, he made them look as if though they weren't competition. I believe that was the case with Roy in his prime, and I believe it would've been the point even to a greater degree with Tyson if his life and career would've taken the right path.
 
JumpBallWinner said:
Dead on. A friend of mine who I always discuss boxing with talks about guys you are unlucky enough to come during a time where there isn't any competition. He always talks about young Tyson being one of those guys. My response to him is always this. I think a guy can also be unlucky enough to be so good, that no matter how good his competition actually is compared to other fights of all time, he made them look as if though they weren't competition. I believe that was the case with Roy in his prime, and I believe it would've been the point even to a greater degree with Tyson if his life and career would've taken the right path.
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definitley, i think we all know winky wright would have beaten hopkins a long time ago but no one ever gave bernard shit for not fighting wink. holyfield came too late for the good tyson, and bernard blossomed as an older fighter when roy was way past that weight class.
 
bruce410 said:
definitley, i think we all know winky wright would have beaten hopkins a long time ago but no one ever gave bernard shit for not fighting wink. holyfield came too late for the good tyson, and bernard blossomed as an older fighter when roy was way past that weight class.
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I like Winky but lets not get crazy he wouldn't have beaten Hopkins. Also Jones didn't destroy Hopkinks it was a very boring fight with both fighters admitting they gave to much repect for each other. Bernard ducked no one he took the Taylor fight instead of Winky or he would have fought him.
 
mookie said:
I like Winky but lets not get crazy he wouldn't have beaten Hopkins. Also Jones didn't destroy Hopkinks it was a very boring fight with both fighters admitting they gave to much repect for each other. Bernard ducked no one he took the Taylor fight instead of Winky or he would have fought him.
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mook you are the one guy that i love talking boxing with. you made me a grip in the hopkins tarver match. i disagree i have the hopkins jones fight roy has a broken right hand and he beats bernard pretty well, would have liked to see it again. i think winky would beat bernard. the way winky handled taylor who beat hopkins twice, granted i think it was a draw, i think bernard would get real frustrated
 
mlong23 said:
He is not striving to be the biggest, thats because he most likely can't. Not a lot of boxers can move up through the weight ranges and do well. Some do, but most can't, because they lack the natural hitting power that the heavier people have naturally. Look at Maywether, he probably doesn't have to lose a lot of weight to get into his division anyway. He is structurally small. If he tried moving up he wouldn't do well. Maybe 1 division, but probably not anymore than that..
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He actually started out at 130 so he has moved up and won titles in all weight classes he's been in. He's also going to fight (and kill) Oscar at light middle weight in May of 07
 
bruce410 said:
mook you are the one guy that i love talking boxing with. you made me a grip in the hopkins tarver match. i disagree i have the hopkins jones fight roy has a broken right hand and he beats bernard pretty well, would have liked to see it again. i think winky would beat bernard. the way winky handled taylor who beat hopkins twice, granted i think it was a draw, i think bernard would get real frustrated
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You know I am bias toward Hopkins he is my 5th favorite fighter of all time. 1: Sugar Ray Robinson 2: Marvin Hagler 3: Pernell Whitaker 4: Gerald McClellan who beat Roy twice in the ameteurs by the way.
 
mookie said:
You know I am bias toward Hopkins he is my 5th favorite fighter of all time. 1: Sugar Ray Robinson 2: Marvin Hagler 3: Pernell Whitaker 4: Gerald McClellan who beat Roy twice in the ameteurs by the way.
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its sad about gerald. that is the reason that roy was a bit reluctant when he grew up. he saw mcclellan get beat down and ruined. they were good friends. too bad they never were able to fight in the pros. who was it that beat Mc Benn? or someone like that
 
bruce410 said:
the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent. they are elite athletes no? mayweather could whoop any 300lbs bber with about 3 punches. he is not striving to be the biggest.
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Man thank you. Floyd Mayweather would hit you ten times before you even saw it coming. It doesnt matter how much you weigh and yes 150lb boxers have lethal punching power. I weigh 218lbs and my boy who boxes hovers around 158lbs and let me tell you I would stand no chance in a street fight against him.
 
bruce410 said:
its sad about gerald. that is the reason that roy was a bit reluctant when he grew up. he saw mcclellan get beat down and ruined. they were good friends. too bad they never were able to fight in the pros. who was it that beat Mc Benn? or someone like that
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Nigel Benn beat Gerald McClellan into a wheelchair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZkvE4Zsko&mode=related&search=
 
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shootfighter1975 said:
Mayweather would be very dangerous in a street situation. I don't care if you are 300 pounds and can bench press 600. Once you get popped about 10 times in the face and floating ribs before you can even blink you are going out..... That guy's hands are like a machine gun.
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I doubt Mayweather (or most boxers) could stand to throw 10 gloveless punches at a human body
sometimes he injures his hand with a glove on it, w/out a glove on it he'd beat his own ass in a street fight
 
don't underestimate the power of a boxers punch.......no matter what weight class. You're forgetting that boxing is ALL they train, so of course they will sap every little bit of power possible to each punch.

And what good is strength, takedowns, etc if you cannot even get close enough to land a shot??? I'm not talking MMA here, I strictly mean the street.
 
kickboxer195 said:
don't underestimate the power of a boxers punch.......no matter what weight class. You're forgetting that boxing is ALL they train, so of course they will sap every little bit of power possible to each punch.

And what good is strength, takedowns, etc if you cannot even get close enough to land a shot??? I'm not talking MMA here, I strictly mean the street.
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exactly. there is a reason boxers make millions and mma don't. i have nothing but respect for mma and i realize there is a lot of talent involved but boxers are the elite, the best. the fastest and hardest hitting. whoever said floyd would break his hand is a moron. even when he breaks his hand he fights on and still dominates. good luck wrestling a guy you can't even touch. roy jones has fought rounds where he was untouched in the whole round. floyd went a round with gatti, a guy i doubt you would fight on the street, and was touched twice. how are you gonna take him down
 
Anthony Starks said:
Because the sport is more mainstream and popular and all the $ that comes along with that, pure and simple.
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my friend think of how much easier it would be for a champion boxer say mayweather, you roy jones or tyson, to get at the elite level in mma. teach them some bjj and some kicking and they will do very well. the same can not be said for mma fighters. they cannot jump into boxing and win belts. its a different level of speed and skill. mma is amazing i love it but they simply just don't have the hand speed of the top boxers.
 
bruce410 said:
my friend think of how much easier it would be for a champion boxer say mayweather, you roy jones or tyson, to get at the elite level in mma. teach them some bjj and some kicking and they will do very well. the same can not be said for mma fighters. they cannot jump into boxing and win belts. its a different level of speed and skill. mma is amazing i love it but they simply just don't have the hand speed of the top boxers.
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I don't know what you're basing this on since its never happened. I do know plenty of gold glove caliber boxers that have gotten their asses kicked in MMA, so I think its a more difficult transition than you think.
 
Anthony Starks said:
I don't know what you're basing this on since its never happened. I do know plenty of gold glove caliber boxers that have gotten their asses kicked in MMA, so I think its a more difficult transition than you think.
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i am just saying that elite boxers if they chose too could do very well in mma but i doubt most of the mma champions have the talent to fight in pro boxing. i take nothing away from mma, it is unbelievable and its different. i am not saying floyd mayweather is tougher than mma fighters i am just saying in my opinion he is a more elite athlete then they are. the same goes for roy jones and many others. matt hughes could not decide to fight at 205 and win the heavyweight belt, but i bet you that young tyson could have been taught a month of mma and dominated
 
bruce410 said:
i am just saying that elite boxers if they chose too could do very well in mma but i doubt most of the mma champions have the talent to fight in pro boxing. i take nothing away from mma, it is unbelievable and its different. i am not saying floyd mayweather is tougher than mma fighters i am just saying in my opinion he is a more elite athlete then they are. the same goes for roy jones and many others. matt hughes could not decide to fight at 205 and win the heavyweight belt, but i bet you that young tyson could have been taught a month of mma and dominated
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I think you underestimate the skills required to compete at the top level of MMA. Perhaps some top teir boxers could succeed if trained extensively as they have prerequisite athleticism. To say a guy like Tyson with a month of training could compete at top level is ludicrous though. Tyson never could fight out of a clinch when the clinch was used by other boxers and was soundly beaten by clinchers. What would happen when he's clinched by a greco-roman based MMA guy or a muay thai based MMA guy. That's their sport's bread and butter. Their clinch isn't going to just frustrate and tie you up. They use it to destroy you.

Some people despite an apparent athleticism have difficulty picking up certain skills. That's why it is not often you see 100 meter champions doubling as long jump champions ala Carl Lewis. Track guys don't often make good wide receivers. They have the prerequisite speed, reflexes, and co-ordination. They don't necessarily have the motor skills so inclined to the fine demands of that top level of competition.
 
What is it about boxers anyway that makes you believe they have these amazing abilities? MMA is made up of world champion wrestlers and martial artists that have spent the same amount of time mastering their craft, just because they don't have 10 million dollar purses and Don King doesn't make them less of an athlete.
 
bruce410 said:
i am just saying that elite boxers if they chose too could do very well in mma but i doubt most of the mma champions have the talent to fight in pro boxing. i take nothing away from mma, it is unbelievable and its different. i am not saying floyd mayweather is tougher than mma fighters i am just saying in my opinion he is a more elite athlete then they are. the same goes for roy jones and many others. matt hughes could not decide to fight at 205 and win the heavyweight belt, but i bet you that young tyson could have been taught a month of mma and dominated
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I have to respectfully disagree with you on this point Bruce. MMA guys have to be skilled in boxing, wrestling, brazillian jiu jitsu & Muay Thai..... Sure they all have an art that they are best at, but pretty much all the fighters who are successful are very well rounded.

6 months of grappling and muay thai would barely be enough for Tyson to catch up to speed let alone 1 month!!! He would most likely get taken down with a double leg, mounted and submitted..... It has happened soooooo many times in the past to guys with no ground game but were pro boxers trying their hand at MMA.

Either way, boxers are tough guys and great atheletes. Elite world class athletes with loads of skills and dynamite in their fists. Mayweather would still murder a 300 pound bodybuilder with a few blazing combos.... However he would not be able to last 2 minutes with someone like Georges St Pierre or BJ Penn.
 
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