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[mlong23]

Mayweather would be very dangerous in a street situation. I don't care if you are 300 pounds and can bench press 600. Once you get popped about 10 times in the face and floating ribs before you can even blink you are going out..... That guy's hands are like a machine gun.

Yea, but the problem is once you get the fucker in your hands he's gone. Look at the UFC fights, once the strikers get taken to the ground most are out of it.

Again, I'm not saying that he isn't a good or even great boxer, but in a streetfight you use more than your hands. He is dangerous in any situation, but do not think that he could kick ass against a 200+ lb. person as opposed to those that weigh as much as he does.

Just my opinion.

 

[mlong23]

Lighter division are the best to watch Heavyweights are to boring.

I agree, but the problem is that most of those guys don't have the power for the knockouts like the heavyweights. Some do, but I think that most don't.

The Heavyweight division sucks, becuase there isn't anyone good anymore. The bigger athletes are playing sports like football. Imagine Juilius Peppers in a ring, thats scary.

 

[digger]

the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent.

Because when you dump all your shit in the same place, nobody can find what they're looking for. That's why AOL sucks -- so few of their users understand that THERE IS A PLACE TO PUT STUFF and stuff needs to go WHERE IT BELONGS.

 

[GymIntensity]

the only people i gave a shit to show it too were in the steroid forum. with all the bullshit in these threads now what is wrong with some athletic talent. they are elite athletes no? mayweather could whoop any 300lbs bber with about 3 punches. he is not striving to be the biggest.

fuck em. I'm glad you posted it here. All the cool bros are here, and the other boards suck ass and never have anyone on them. Just like when I post in the diet forum, i will get one freakin response, and the same threads will be at the top for days. Thats stupid. If you got 2 trash compactors, and 1 works better than the other, why put "shit" in both of them? right you dont, you use the good one.

anyways bro boxing has much to do with AAS. K

 

[Bruce]

140 is the best fighting division in boxing. actually no one watches the heavyweights bro. they haven't since tyson and before that ali and frazier who were not mammoth beasts. i'm not gonna get into a pissing match but put jay cutler in the ring with him. he doesn't touch mayweather once and is knocked out in 3 minutes. they have more punching power than a guy that benches 500lbs because that is what they train for.

sorry DIGGER i dont see what the big deal is. sorry i messed up the search engine that everyone uses so much since i have answered the same damn question 1000 times. you gave me red, that is pretty weak to do to a long time guy like me. whatever.

Thats funny, that he could knock out a 300 lb'er with 3 punches. Do you not understand why little guys don't fight big guys? Its because their punching power isn't that great, and if they get caught by a punch from the bigger guy, its usually lights out for the little guy. I wasn't referring to a bodybuilder, because most are flexible or quick enough to actually fight. If it was a street fight and Maywhether tried whopping someone that was about 220-230, I don't think he could. He may be fast, but the power he has doesn't mean a lot when your hitting a bigger target.

He is not striving to be the biggest, thats because he most likely can't. Not a lot of boxers can move up through the weight ranges and do well. Some do, but most can't, because they lack the natural hitting power that the heavier people have naturally. Look at Maywether, he probably doesn't have to lose a lot of weight to get into his division anyway. He is structurally small. If he tried moving up he wouldn't do well. Maybe 1 division, but probably not anymore than that.

Boxing as a sport is no more. There are way too many titles out there, and the promoters have ruined the sport. How many heavyweight champs are there, like 10 or something. What do they have 3 main ones, the IBF, WBC, and one other. Why??? There should be 1 champion per division. This is why boxing is suffering and it will never reclaim its glory that it once had in the 50's - 80's.

 

[Bruce]

also factor in mlong that mayweather came up from 130 to 150 and is still dominating and roy jones started at 135 and won belts all the way up to heavyweight. so their power is relevant regardless of the weight you fight at.

 

[GymIntensity]

you gave me red, that is pretty weak to do to a long time guy like me. whatever.

Digger, that is bullshit. I'm sure it makes you feel important tho. Too bad 410 gets hit with green every EF'n day.

 

[GymIntensity]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to bruce410 again.


Holla back nuck

 

[justinjones1963]

To reply to everything:

1) Fighters in the 140 +/- range are fun to watch. Pac-Man, Mayweather, Cotto are all fun to watch. The action is with the lighter guys - they hammer each other for 12 straiht rounds.

2) The HW division is heating up. The Boxing Banker just cashed his last check and got KTFO. There are some exciting figthers to watch. Peter has a chin of steel and the powder to back it up. Wvlad is making waves again. James Toney, despite all of the hype, has a good chin and can box.

3) Look at Mayweather's KO record - it sucks. DLH has speed and powder. Mayweather is probably faster but his chin has not been tested. If DLH comes in at top form he is going to give Maweather a run for his money. Gatti is a very limited fighter, so is Baldomir. DLH is a class A fighter and the fight with Mayweather is not going to be a cake walk for Maywether.

4) RJJ, IMHO, did go up against some decent fighters but he backs down from a ton too. Beating Ruiz at the HW level was a joke. Huggy Bear simply didn't have the speed or skills. You look at the fighters he fought in the 160-170's and RJJ should have stepped up to better competition. He dodged fighters like Calzaghe. Gimmie a break. A good comparison is Toney. I am not a big Toney fan but I give him tons of credit for stepping up to every word that comes out of his big mouth. The man went at it with Peter and took those hits and IMO won that fight. He also stepped up to the best fighters at the time from the 160's all the way up to his curent weight.

On a final note Winky Wright should be getting a hell of a lot more credit than he gets. The way he beat the hell out of Tito was superb. IMO he beat Taylor too. He is also another fighter that step up to the plate when the time comes. Too bad Mayweather and RJJ couldn't follow in his footsteps. Mayweather is a very good fighter. Definitely top 5 P4P out there today but if he wants to go down in history as a great, or the greatest fighter, he needs to clean the floor with DLH, then go after Cotto (who Mayweather would beat I believe), Margarito and most importantly Hatton.

 

[Bruce]

i will tell you right now, i agree about winky. i think winky is the most underated fighter there is. but he does not have the flash and willingness to gamble to get his credit. i disagree about floyds jaw, it was tested against gatti, baldomir who knocked out gatti, and zab judah. i love ricky hatton as well. roy jones destroyed bernard hopkins with a broken right hand, he destroyed james toney, he beat down ruiz and called out tyson and lewis neither of whom would fight him. roy fought every undefeated champ they threw at him and didn't want to fight bernard at 160 again, he happily would have fought him at light heavy. now with bernard coming back maybe they will go again but it would have been better earlier. roy jones is the most talented fighter ever and though he did not have the competition that ali, leonard, hagler had, but you have to think to yourself, put roy jones in the ring with ray leonard, he kills ray, put him in the ring with hagler he wins, anyone you name it young roy tears them a new asshole. so just cause he made everyone he fought look like nothing doesn't mean they were nothing. why would he fight bernard or toney again when he beat them so badly and then moved up in weight for more of a challenge. floyd mayweather, cotto, hatton, paul willliams, and shane mosley all have to fight eachother. roy is getting to old now but had ne never come down for tarver he would still be taking names. just can't drop 40lbs in a month when you are 36

To reply to everything:

1) Fighters in the 140 +/- range are fun to watch. Pac-Man, Mayweather, Cotto are all fun to watch. The action is with the lighter guys - they hammer each other for 12 straiht rounds.

2) The HW division is heating up. The Boxing Banker just cashed his last check and got KTFO. There are some exciting figthers to watch. Peter has a chin of steel and the powder to back it up. Wvlad is making waves again. James Toney, despite all of the hype, has a good chin and can box.

3) Look at Mayweather's KO record - it sucks. DLH has speed and powder. Mayweather is probably faster but his chin has not been tested. If DLH comes in at top form he is going to give Maweather a run for his money. Gatti is a very limited fighter, so is Baldomir. DLH is a class A fighter and the fight with Mayweather is not going to be a cake walk for Maywether.

4) RJJ, IMHO, did go up against some decent fighters but he backs down from a ton too. Beating Ruiz at the HW level was a joke. Huggy Bear simply didn't have the speed or skills. You look at the fighters he fought in the 160-170's and RJJ should have stepped up to better competition. He dodged fighters like Calzaghe. Gimmie a break. A good comparison is Toney. I am not a big Toney fan but I give him tons of credit for stepping up to every word that comes out of his big mouth. The man went at it with Peter and took those hits and IMO won that fight. He also stepped up to the best fighters at the time from the 160's all the way up to his curent weight.

On a final note Winky Wright should be getting a hell of a lot more credit than he gets. The way he beat the hell out of Tito was superb. IMO he beat Taylor too. He is also another fighter that step up to the plate when the time comes. Too bad Mayweather and RJJ couldn't follow in his footsteps. Mayweather is a very good fighter. Definitely top 5 P4P out there today but if he wants to go down in history as a great, or the greatest fighter, he needs to clean the floor with DLH, then go after Cotto (who Mayweather would beat I believe), Margarito and most importantly Hatton.