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bruce410 said:
its sad about gerald. that is the reason that roy was a bit reluctant when he grew up. he saw mcclellan get beat down and ruined. they were good friends. too bad they never were able to fight in the pros. who was it that beat Mc Benn? or someone like that

Nigel Benn beat Gerald McClellan into a wheelchair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZkvE4Zsko&mode=related&search=
 
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shootfighter1975 said:
Mayweather would be very dangerous in a street situation. I don't care if you are 300 pounds and can bench press 600. Once you get popped about 10 times in the face and floating ribs before you can even blink you are going out..... That guy's hands are like a machine gun.

I doubt Mayweather (or most boxers) could stand to throw 10 gloveless punches at a human body
sometimes he injures his hand with a glove on it, w/out a glove on it he'd beat his own ass in a street fight
 
don't underestimate the power of a boxers punch.......no matter what weight class. You're forgetting that boxing is ALL they train, so of course they will sap every little bit of power possible to each punch.

And what good is strength, takedowns, etc if you cannot even get close enough to land a shot??? I'm not talking MMA here, I strictly mean the street.
 
kickboxer195 said:
don't underestimate the power of a boxers punch.......no matter what weight class. You're forgetting that boxing is ALL they train, so of course they will sap every little bit of power possible to each punch.

And what good is strength, takedowns, etc if you cannot even get close enough to land a shot??? I'm not talking MMA here, I strictly mean the street.
exactly. there is a reason boxers make millions and mma don't. i have nothing but respect for mma and i realize there is a lot of talent involved but boxers are the elite, the best. the fastest and hardest hitting. whoever said floyd would break his hand is a moron. even when he breaks his hand he fights on and still dominates. good luck wrestling a guy you can't even touch. roy jones has fought rounds where he was untouched in the whole round. floyd went a round with gatti, a guy i doubt you would fight on the street, and was touched twice. how are you gonna take him down
 
Anthony Starks said:
Because the sport is more mainstream and popular and all the $ that comes along with that, pure and simple.
my friend think of how much easier it would be for a champion boxer say mayweather, you roy jones or tyson, to get at the elite level in mma. teach them some bjj and some kicking and they will do very well. the same can not be said for mma fighters. they cannot jump into boxing and win belts. its a different level of speed and skill. mma is amazing i love it but they simply just don't have the hand speed of the top boxers.
 
bruce410 said:
my friend think of how much easier it would be for a champion boxer say mayweather, you roy jones or tyson, to get at the elite level in mma. teach them some bjj and some kicking and they will do very well. the same can not be said for mma fighters. they cannot jump into boxing and win belts. its a different level of speed and skill. mma is amazing i love it but they simply just don't have the hand speed of the top boxers.

I don't know what you're basing this on since its never happened. I do know plenty of gold glove caliber boxers that have gotten their asses kicked in MMA, so I think its a more difficult transition than you think.
 
Anthony Starks said:
I don't know what you're basing this on since its never happened. I do know plenty of gold glove caliber boxers that have gotten their asses kicked in MMA, so I think its a more difficult transition than you think.
i am just saying that elite boxers if they chose too could do very well in mma but i doubt most of the mma champions have the talent to fight in pro boxing. i take nothing away from mma, it is unbelievable and its different. i am not saying floyd mayweather is tougher than mma fighters i am just saying in my opinion he is a more elite athlete then they are. the same goes for roy jones and many others. matt hughes could not decide to fight at 205 and win the heavyweight belt, but i bet you that young tyson could have been taught a month of mma and dominated
 
bruce410 said:
i am just saying that elite boxers if they chose too could do very well in mma but i doubt most of the mma champions have the talent to fight in pro boxing. i take nothing away from mma, it is unbelievable and its different. i am not saying floyd mayweather is tougher than mma fighters i am just saying in my opinion he is a more elite athlete then they are. the same goes for roy jones and many others. matt hughes could not decide to fight at 205 and win the heavyweight belt, but i bet you that young tyson could have been taught a month of mma and dominated

I think you underestimate the skills required to compete at the top level of MMA. Perhaps some top teir boxers could succeed if trained extensively as they have prerequisite athleticism. To say a guy like Tyson with a month of training could compete at top level is ludicrous though. Tyson never could fight out of a clinch when the clinch was used by other boxers and was soundly beaten by clinchers. What would happen when he's clinched by a greco-roman based MMA guy or a muay thai based MMA guy. That's their sport's bread and butter. Their clinch isn't going to just frustrate and tie you up. They use it to destroy you.

Some people despite an apparent athleticism have difficulty picking up certain skills. That's why it is not often you see 100 meter champions doubling as long jump champions ala Carl Lewis. Track guys don't often make good wide receivers. They have the prerequisite speed, reflexes, and co-ordination. They don't necessarily have the motor skills so inclined to the fine demands of that top level of competition.
 
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