Arnold swarzenegger and dianabol !!

[LEW D0GGY D0G]

Was randomly thinking of arny today (as you do), and remembered that he used to consume copius amounts of dbol. They say he used up to 150 mg a DAY!!! Now how the hell did that man avoid moon face and ludacris amounts of bloat?? Especially when some people on here complain about these sides on 20 mg a day ? Just a thought. Thanks

 

[stevesmi]

they say he used 150mg a day? who is 'they'?

that isn't accurate at all IMHO.

the pics you see of arnold are of him during season, you don't see what he looked like offseason. those guys weren't as dumb as people today think they were. they knew how to shed water weight before a contest or shoot. we've known how to do that for hundreds of years, it isn't something new. there are many tricks.. heck we used to for weightlifting put on sweaters and jog around the track a few times to shed a few pounds of water weight before our weigh in's

if you wanted to guess what arnold was on i would be more inclined to say 100mg a day of primo and maybe 20mg of dbol based on what some of the old vets on here think. i would say guys like RADAR and Nelson could give a more accurate guess than the younger guys on here. they both have been around for 20-30 years in this thing

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I read that Arnold Was one of the guys that coasted at a 10-15 mg dose of dbol year round.... Hes known for crazy amounts of primo leading up to contest.... But heard he preached less is more..... And more like steve said... 700mg of any compound per week is alot to me.... lol, So him doing like a gram a week is a unneeded in my pesonal opinion... He knew training and diet was more important than gear.... Genetics to with arnie bro..

 

[Sinister Minister]

Don't believe shit u read on the searches thru out the intraweb!! It's all BS. Fact is nobody knows for sure what he or anyone took for sure, its all just speculation bro! I've heard he ate dbol year round like it came out of a pez dispenser and cruised on a gram of primo a week for 6 months... Probably all BS tho...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Was randomly thinking of arny today (as you do), and remembered that he used to consume copius amounts of dbol. They say he used up to 150 mg a DAY!!! Now how the hell did that man avoid moon face and ludacris amounts of bloat?? Especially when some people on here complain about these sides on 20 mg a day ? Just a thought. Thanks

Because that rumor is bullshit.

 

[ConanX]

Nobody knows except Arnold and a few who were close to him and would never share it.

I've heard things ranging from "Arnold used to just grab a handful of dbol and swallow the whole bunch"
to
"Arnold used to pin 3ccs of Primo every single day"
to
"Arnold was a pioneer and used cadaver GH extensively...Nubret was experimenting with monkey GH at the time also"
to
"Arnold was on everything the guys today are on minus high amounts of GH and Insulin. This includes Tren, EQ, Deca, Primo, Masteron, Anavar, Dbol, Anadrol, and a little test"

Nobody will ever know. What we do know is that he trained like a LUNATIC. I think that the "golden age" physiques came down to the level of training. Were they overtraining? Maybe...but they had the best and most aspiring physiques any man could ever dream of possesing.. You don't see bodybuilders look like that anymore.

 

[C.K.]

they used to bake dbol cakes and eat them pre workout

 

[wootoom]

The only steroid I didn't like was Dbol

 

[Sinister Minister]

The only steroid I didn't like was Dbol

whys that? back pumps?

 

[plarmann]

Nobody knows except Arnold and a few who were close to him and would never share it.

I've heard things ranging from "Arnold used to just grab a handful of dbol and swallow the whole bunch"
to
"Arnold used to pin 3ccs of Primo every single day"
to
"Arnold was a pioneer and used cadaver GH extensively...Nubret was experimenting with monkey GH at the time also"
to
"Arnold was on everything the guys today are on minus high amounts of GH and Insulin. This includes Tren, EQ, Deca, Primo, Masteron, Anavar, Dbol, Anadrol, and a little test"

Nobody will ever know. What we do know is that he trained like a LUNATIC. I think that the "golden age" physiques came down to the level of training. Were they overtraining? Maybe...but they had the best and most aspiring physiques any man could ever dream of possesing.. You don't see bodybuilders look like that anymore.

I agree, but to clarify today's pro IFBB bodybuilders have reached levels of mass, Arnold's generation could dream of.
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[LetsGrow]

they used to bake dbol cakes and eat them pre workout

Not letting this go unappreciated lol. We should do that for needtoo's party lol.

 

[LEW D0GGY D0G]

Thanks for eveyones input , I probably shouldnt have taken the dbol rumour as a fact. Its just when u hear the same thing over and over u think it must be true! It crossed my mind that dbol was different back then but I guess its all the same chemical structure and of equal androgenicity. Like u guys said nobody knows and probably never will !!

 

[ConanX]

I agree, but to clarify today's pro IFBB bodybuilders have reached levels of mass, Arnold's generation could dream of.
Check it out


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Apples and oranges. Take todays IFBB pros off of the insulin and high dose growth hormone and they will look inferior to the 80's bodybuilders. HGH and Insulin were the turning points in bodybuilding. Arnold would compete around 230lbs at 6'1-6'2. You have midgets at 5'6 weighing 260lbs, even more shredded than Arnold.

This is not from AAS my friends. It is strictly HGH and Insulin that gives them this ENORMOUS size. Take them off the slin and then remove the HGH (they'll die before they give up HGH) and you will see them more or less shrink in half.

So yes, the Arnold era and 2010+ might be using close to the same amount of AAS, whether its 5 or 10 grams of AAS. But the Insulin and the HGH is what gives the enormous gap in size, the 50lbs+ of mass.

I really do not like modern day pro bodybuilding. Instead of judging based on aesthetics and pleasing muscle, it more or less comes down to who can carry the most muscle mass at a low bodyfat/water. I really think that if bodybuilders were penalized for the guts that pro bodybuilding could have a second coming. I mean, basically ALL IFBB pros are sporting these huge turtle shell bellys. This is not bodybuilding to me. Please don't get this wrong though, I respect the IFBB pros. I just don't like that the judges approve this look. Take away the placings for the guts and focus mor on attractive muscle and you can guarantee the guts will disappear.

Sorry for the rant

 

[Sherk]

I heard he use to eat anadrol and poop out dbol and that's where it came from.

 

[wootoom]

whys that? back pumps?

the bloat

 

[deejleos]

I heard he use to eat anadrol and poop out dbol and that's where it came from.

Heard the same thing


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Train like a freak

 

[-SD-]

the bloat

Shitty diet rob

 

[wootoom]

stfu

 

[Nelson Montana]

These rumors started in the late 90's early 2000's when drug use started rising and guys who sucked unless they used 2 grams a week decided the only way for those guys to look that way was to take massive dosages. It's ridiculous. Hell, Steve Reeves was natural. And how do I know that? Well, the guy had perfect proportions and weighed 180 pounds. Does that sound like the result of heavy juicing?

I've spoken to plenty of the old timers and knew a few who trained with Arnold. They were pretty candid about their steroid use. (Something some of the old fucks at ironage can't accept). But it was NOTHING compared to the average gym rat today.

I really don't think 99% of the guys today understand the ways those guys trained. It'd kill them.

 

[LEW D0GGY D0G]

I could not agree with you any more ! It makes you wonder what pros will be looking like in 50 years !? Even though Arnold and other champs back then were juiced to buggery , they still had a nice crafted 'natural' look to them. I would MUCH prefer to look like arny than say ronnie coleman. Arny = beautifully crafted . Ronnie = bonderline freak imo. bbers get carried away with mass and low bf, rather than making an attractive figure. More mass does not equal better looking

 

[Gunslinger007]

What we do know is that he trained like a LUNATIC. I think that the "golden age" physiques came down to the level of training. Were they overtraining? Maybe...but they had the best and most aspiring physiques any man could ever dream of possesing.. You don't see bodybuilders look like that anymore.

What do you mean by the level of training? I've noticed as well that the "golden age" bodybuilders in many ways had more impressive and aesthetic physiques than most of what you see today. And considering that we now have a plethora of OTC and blackmarket anabolic compounds practically at our fingetips, and biotechs and scientists just keep coming out with more and more advanced compounds, it seems counter-intuitive that the physiques you see at the highest BB levels don't look as good as the old school.

 

[hherrera22]

Steve Reeves was natural at one certain point ufcourse and yes he had very nice proportions ,but am sure he got a little help to get to 215 pounds of pure muscle aint no doub about it , its true that ppl here missundertand that you need hard training , food and rest over and over to be able to grow but natural depends on the genetic of the person the body have a stop and to a guy 6,1 215 pounds of muscle 18.5 biceps and calves thats a lie...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebRglq-CPsY

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

I read that Arnold Was one of the guys that coasted at a 10-15 mg dose of dbol year round.... Hes known for crazy amounts of primo leading up to contest.... But heard he preached less is more..... And more like steve said... 700mg of any compound per week is alot to me.... lol, So him doing like a gram a week is a unneeded in my pesonal opinion... He knew training and diet was more important than gear.... Genetics to with arnie bro..

Where did he get such an amount of Primobolan, for Goodness sake? Did he steal golden candlesticks in Austrian churches?

 

[SWOLNUTZ]

Apples and oranges. Take todays IFBB pros off of the insulin and high dose growth hormone and they will look inferior to the 80's bodybuilders. HGH and Insulin were the turning points in bodybuilding. Arnold would compete around 230lbs at 6'1-6'2. You have midgets at 5'6 weighing 260lbs, even more shredded than Arnold.

This is not from AAS my friends. It is strictly HGH and Insulin that gives them this ENORMOUS size. Take them off the slin and then remove the HGH (they'll die before they give up HGH) and you will see them more or less shrink in half.

So yes, the Arnold era and 2010+ might be using close to the same amount of AAS, whether its 5 or 10 grams of AAS. But the Insulin and the HGH is what gives the enormous gap in size, the 50lbs+ of mass.

I really do not like modern day pro bodybuilding. Instead of judging based on aesthetics and pleasing muscle, it more or less comes down to who can carry the most muscle mass at a low bodyfat/water. I really think that if bodybuilders were penalized for the guts that pro bodybuilding could have a second coming. I mean, basically ALL IFBB pros are sporting these huge turtle shell bellys. This is not bodybuilding to me. Please don't get this wrong though, I respect the IFBB pros. I just don't like that the judges approve this look. Take away the placings for the guts and focus mor on attractive muscle and you can guarantee the guts will disappear.

Sorry for the rant

This is F'N dead ON! I hate the way folks have started to look these days, and they've completely lost the aesthetics which made BB'ing cool. Now it seems like a Freakshow at the national level

 

[training700]

I think also better drugs to counter excess estrogen and those sorts of drugs have really helped to allow much higher dosages without the same level of sides.

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