Arnold a hypocrit too!!

[Mike P.T.]

Ahhh another Bill Phillips. They had their good ol time with the steroids and now that they have chosen to get out of the game they want everyone else too as well. Of course when you get "mainstream" and are viewed by alot of the people in the general world the best thing you could do to make yourself look good to the general population is to go against steroids which most people think are HORRIBLE. I dunno, I definately feel that in today's world things have gone overboard with the steroid use but that's just the way it's gonna be. People want more and more and more and to get there faster as well and as long as steroids are in production, people will find ways to use it. Ehhhh next he'll be agreeing with the ban of ephedrine......

 

[bigp3]

It is called self promotion,, that is all it is about with arnold now, not what is right and what is wrong

 

[FlexManning]

what kind of gear do you think arnold used in his years bros???????????

I didn't get to the end of the thread yet to see if anyone answered this, but there were a lot of conflicting stories about this. Some say (like himself for instance) he would use as little as a few d-bols a day, some say he used to dump a good part of a bottle of them in his hand, wash them down, and say "Let's train!".

All in all though I don't think he used anywhere near what guys use today. Fact is, back 30, 40, 50 years ago bodybuilders didn't even know if you could LIVE after taking 2 grams a week of steroids.

I know too there were other guys who built impressive physiques on small doses and used only steroids and not insulin, gh, etc. Mentzer said he would often cycle only to get ready for a contest, and even then he used pretty limited amounts. His brother Ray was at one time a pretty big mofo himself, a lot of people don't realize that because for some reason or another I don't think he even competed at his peak. Ray said in an interview once that he was lifting some tremendous weights and he had not even used steriods for a pretty long time, in other words he was sort of like his brother in that he needed them mainly to get into contest shape. I think Casey Viator used some pretty limited dosages back in his early training days.


Now, I'm not saying any of this to be anti-steroid, because I'm not. But it is pretty interesting what many past bodybuilders got out of good old fashioned cycling of moderate dosages and free weights.

 

[bigp3]

I think it is obvious that those guys did not use the dosages that the pros do today and I agree that they have gone to extremes, but this should be a choice for the individual to make.

The guys in the old days just did plain out hard work which is missing today from the sport. I was able to bench 315 for 5 or 6 reps clean and I know guys in my gym that strugle with 225 while jacked up. Bottom line is it all goes back to good old hard work.

I also have to retract some of what I said about arnold being a hypocrit. Rumor has it that when all the shit was going down at the Show last weekend that he stood up and spoke his mind to the feds. I also heard that his advisors were going nuts and wanted him on the next plane out of there. Maybe he is starting to realize the gravity of this whole situation!!

 

[robsmy]

arnold never used steroids neither did lou i think lou stil does though he is still huge at 55

 

[bigp3]

arnold never used steroids neither did lou i think lou stil does though he is still huge at 55

not to bust your balls brother but arnold has admitted using steroid for years, He makes no secret of this. After all they were legal and easy to find when he was in his prime!!