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Raging

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OK, my girlfriend is one of those who buy into the media hype surrounding steroids and how dangerous they are. The other day she read from her psychology textbook ('cause you know, those shrinks are really adept at describing the ills of steroids) how steroids cause heart attacks, and they pretty much make you a ticking time bomb. From my understanding, you may get acne, bitch tits, hairy, etc, but heart attacks? Never heard of that. But I digress, how do you guys explain to those who buy into the media's constant bombardment of malicious attacks against steroids that they aren't as bad as some would have us believe? I don't give a damn what other people think, but I need to quell her fears a little. Oh, and i've tried showing her articles in favor of steroids, but she just dismisses them as "lies."
 
damn, sorry guys. I just scrolled down and realized chefwide wrote on the same subject. gonna go read through those replies.
 
First thing I would do is sit down with her and the both of you look at the various threads on elite fitness. Hopefully she will come to the conclusion that there are some very intelligent people here that know what they are talking about. Second, since she like to go by what "profesionals" say, ask her to show you multiple studies on how these "bad" things are happening to gear users. If she still dosen't accept your choice, you may have to examine the situation and decide if she really loves you.
 
Don't tell here unless she is your wife...even then it should only be done at your own discretion.
 
Tell her that you've done research regarding the positive and negative effects of steroids, and have used them in such a manner that you have maximized the benefits and minimized the harmful effects.

Make sure you concede the point that anything, used improperly, is dangerous.

You may want to bring up the point that you are using in large part because you want to look your best for her.

-M
 
Tell her that if she wants to put in the effort and time that it takes to actually do some SERIOUS research on the subject, that you will be glad to discuss it with her; otherwise just take comfort in the fact that you are not an idiot and that you wouldn't do anything to intentionally harm yourself. Of course the first rule is don't tell anybody! My wife has never asked, not even once. I keep telling myself that if the subject is ever brought up, I will use that same line but I'll probably lie. Most people have no understanding of AS, even people who lift in my gym are ignorant. They say stupid shit like " your dick will shrivel up" you'll go crazy and kill somebody". Keep in mind that if someone is on AS, every malady that he/she has will be attributed to the use of AS; whether it has anything to do with it or not. You can thank Lyle Alzado for that (IMO). Lying is always the best tool.
 
I agree with teminator all the way. If she isn't around later on, that is something that she has on you... but then it kinda gets hard to explain how you gained 15 lbs.

Whiskey
 
Whiskey said:
I agree with teminator all the way. If she isn't around later on, that is something that she has on you... but then it kinda gets hard to explain how you gained 15 lbs.

Whiskey

This is the one benefit I think prohormones give us...If they made Mark McGwire put on tremendous size, then it makes for a good smokescreen for us now...Tell them its the 1-AD and creatine you are taking lol...they will never know the difference...;)
 
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First thing I would do is sit down with her and the both of you look at the various threads on elite fitness. Hopefully she will come to the conclusion that there are some very intelligent people here that know what they are talking about.


Hell, definetely don't do THAT. Some of the shit I read here scares ME.
 
What's wrong Nelson, are you scared of telling the truth. If she is a woman whom trully loves him she will understand that abuse of gear is the cause of bad side effects. Nelson, I believe you are knowledgeable about gear/supplements, but I find most of your advice in other things lacking common sense. You are a very arogant person whom feels he is always right and doesn't way all the evidence at hand to make a wise decision.
 
Bro don't let her know. Just do it. If she realize that you are getting big and ask you about that, tell her the true. "yeah, i'm doing steroids"...When they want to do liposuction or any cosmetic surgery they don't care about any advice or PROVEN risks.
 
jubei said:
Don't tell here unless she is your wife...even then it should only be done at your own discretion.

Excellent point. I am going to wait until I get married to tell anyone. It will really put her to the test if she is really is willing to except the things that I'm all about. Excellent post, would really like to hear many more replies. ( anybody)
 
i don't tell anyone- if someone finds out i explain how AAS are just allopathic drugs which obviously have some sides which are unfortunately exagerrated- cough syrups are far more dangerous IMO- they are addictive. surprisingly there are enough of ppl who i thought would have never bought this who actually told me that i had obviously researched enough and so i knew what i was doing. there are some dipshits however who are stubborn and who may at best say - "i like the conviction with which u argue but...". to these ppl i say "u can't tell ass from ur head- it's useless arguing with u".
 
Dr. M said:
Tell her that you've done research regarding the positive and negative effects of steroids, and have used them in such a manner that you have maximized the benefits and minimized the harmful effects.

Make sure you concede the point that anything, used improperly, is dangerous.

You may want to bring up the point that you are using in large part because you want to look your best for her.

-M

thats what i did.
i couldnt be with somebody i didnt trust.
but im also engaged
 
[email][email protected][/email] said:
What's wrong Nelson, are you scared of telling the truth. If she is a woman whom trully loves him she will understand that abuse of gear is the cause of bad side effects. Nelson, I believe you are knowledgeable about gear/supplements, but I find most of your advice in other things lacking common sense. You are a very arogant person whom feels he is always right and doesn't way all the evidence at hand to make a wise decision.


If you're going to criticize, at least try to come up with something original -- instead of spouting the the same, lame cliches'.

What does this have to do with my statement anyway? Nothing. It's just something you wanted to say. And you're wrong.

I don't believe having someone unfamiliar with steroids reading this board is the best way to educate them and put them at ease. There are too many fools -- apparently.
 
Hmmm... I dont know about you, but I couldnt even IMAGINE the look on my wifes face if I said " First they are going to slice my skin and muscle around my face like a horseshoe and stretch it out then STAPLE it back on, then they are going to scrape the bone one my nose with surgical cheese grater, and if that doesnt work, they are going to shatter my fucking nose with a ball peen hammer and make it look smaller. Then they are going to sew me up and burn the top layers of my skin off most of my body with laser hot enough to start a fire. THEN they are going to give my literally hundreds of shots to temporarilly solidify my flesh before they ram a sharp vacuum cleaner in and out sucking out my flesh. Once that is done, its just a matter of going for botulism toxin injections every once in a while to paralyze my fucking face muscles... did i mention that I am also getting implants for my chin, eybrows, cheek bones, breasts, ass, calves, etc just before i get my sweat glands ripped out of my hands, feet, face and underarms....


Thats ok with everybody, isnt it? But if you tell her you are going to inject a hormone that wont do much, except IF YOU WORK YOUR FUCKING ASS OFF, physically striving for years to do something positive, then she will leave you????

Holy fucking sheep shit, batman, what is wrong with this picture???
 
damn gentlemen, i never realized i'd get this many responses so quickly. obviously this problem has arisen before. i appreciate all of your comments. She doesn't freak on me or anything like that (we were best friends for two years before we started dating, and she knew about my use then), but she is just concerned. she's not the type of girl to say "don't do this," or "i'll leave you if you don't quit." she just worries, and as i love her, i wanted to put some of her fears to rest. i think directing her towards more pro-steroid literature would help, but of course i have to find the right material, and not just provide her with random claims. I think i will look through more of the previous posts on this board and determine which ones i should show her, in addition to finding more info on the internet/books, etc. thanks guys, always appreciated.
 
Raging said:
damn gentlemen, i never realized i'd get this many responses so quickly. obviously this problem has arisen before. i appreciate all of your comments. She doesn't freak on me or anything like that (we were best friends for two years before we started dating, and she knew about my use then), but she is just concerned. she's not the type of girl to say "don't do this," or "i'll leave you if you don't quit." she just worries, and as i love her, i wanted to put some of her fears to rest. i think directing her towards more pro-steroid literature would help, but of course i have to find the right material, and not just provide her with random claims. I think i will look through more of the previous posts on this board and determine which ones i should show her, in addition to finding more info on the internet/books, etc. thanks guys, always appreciated.


Actually, LEGAL MUSCLE might be the best choice.
 
If it's your girlfriend and a semi-serious relationship, then I wouldn't bother telling her because she could throw it back at you and drag your name through the mud if you ever broke up. Well, let me re-phrase that WILL let everyone know about everything if you break up. If it's your VERY SERIOUS girlfriend or wife in that case, then the answer to your question is TIME.....Plant the seed now, and go to work with your defense......it will take time to change their opinions. It eventually worked for me.
 
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