Are E2 and prolactine the only way ?

[Oxbow]

Hey guys, got a gyno 2 years ago that ruined my body and it will cost me 3000 bucks for the surgery. This really sucks.

I am affraid to have it back now I know I'm gyno prone..

Here is my plan to prevent gyno during my next cycles :

- Use Aromasin during and after cycle, tapper off at the end.
- Use very low and rare Cabergoline dose to prevent any Prolactine issues.
- Keep letro (E gyno) and Cabergoline (Prolactine gyno) on hand to reverse it if gyno appears. There are letro gyno reveral protocols that works.
- Get bloodwork done and check E2 (estradiol) and prolactine at week 3 to see if AI/caber is well adjusted.
- Keep an eye of the eventual signs of high E : water retention, emotionality, and check your nipples.
- If the steroid can get along with nolvadex, use nolva @20 ED during PCT.

Now my question :
I would like to know if there is another way to get gyno than having a high estradiol level and/or a high prolactine level ? I'm talking about AAS only here, not Osta/HGH.

 

[Oxbow]

Bump. I'm sure you guys know the answer.

 

[Makaveli Tha Don]

Well what did the first cycle that gave you gyno look like? If you controlled estro well enough, then surely it was a prolactin issue. Prolactin issues are more common than most people thing, however 99 percent of people are unaware that they have them. It stems from a pituitary gland issue, where prolactin is secreted. Many people have pituitary issues that are unaware of them. And by taking AAS you are compounding a problem that you already had that you did not know existed. And more often than not it's compounded enough to show gyno symptoms.

If caber doesn't work for you, I'd try prami, prami is way WAY more potent mg for mg than caber is.

Check out ag guys if you need any ancilliaries. There caber price is high, but their aromasin is top notch and nicely priced. As well as their letro.

 

[Oxbow]

Thanks man.

No caber during first cycle and AI not well dosed....

I would like to be sure that if my estrogen and prolactine are in normal eange, I don't risk ANYTHING.
Is it true ? High estrogen and high prolactine are really the only way to get gyno ?

 

[RickRock13]

You won't have to worry about prolactin related issues on cycle unless you run nandrolones. Test and other aromatising compounds are what cause the estrogen issues. Aromasin at 25mg EOD is a good dose to control it on cycle. The stuff from AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer! is good to go