arabs point of view

[primetime21]

> The following was written by an Arab-American
> journalist, Joseph Farah I've been quiet since Israel erupted in fighting
> spurred by disputes over the Temple Mount. Until
> now, I haven't even bothered to say, "See, I told
> you so." But I can't resist any longer. I feel
> compelled to remind you of the column I wrote just
> a couple weeks before the latest uprising. Yeah,
> folks, I predicted it.
>
> That's OK. Hold your applause. After all, I wish
> I had been wrong. More than 600 people have been
> killed since the current fighting started. And
> for what?
>
> If you believe what you read in most news sources,
> Palestinians want a homeland and Muslims want
> control over sites they consider holy. Simple
> right?
>
> Well, as an Arab-American journalist who has spent
> some time in the Middle East dodging more than my
> share of rocks and mortar shells, I've got to tell
> you that these are just phony excuses for the
> rioting, trouble-making and land-grabbing. Isn't
> it interesting that prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli
> war, there was no serious movement for a
> Palestinian homeland?
>
> "Well, Farah," you might say, "that was before the
> Israelis seized the West Bank and Old Jerusalem."
>
> That's true. In the Six-Day War, Israel captured
> Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they
> didn't capture these territories from Yasser
> Arafat. They captured them from Jordan's King
> Hussein. I can't help but wonder why all these
> Palestinians suddenly discovered their national
> identity after Israel won the war.
>
> The truth is that Palestine is no more real than
> Never-Never Land. The first time the name was
> used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed
> genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and
> declared the land of Israel would be no more.
> From then on, the Romans promised, it would be
> known as Palestine.
>
> The name was derived from the Philistines, a
> Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries
> earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add
> insult to injury. They also tried to change the
> name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that
> had even less staying power.
>
> Palestine has never existed--before or since--as
> an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by
> Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the
> Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after
> World War I. The British agreed to restore at
> least part of the land to the Jewish people as
> their homeland.
>
> There is no language known as Palestinian. There
> is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has
> never been a land known as Palestine governed by
> Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs,
> indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent
> invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.
>
> Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent
> of the Middle East lands. Israel represents
> one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass. But
> that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all.
> And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel
> is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy.
> Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions
> the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
>
> What about Islam's holy sites? There are none in
> Jerusalem. Shocked? You should be. I don't
> expect you will ever hear this brutal truth from
> anyone else in the international media. It's just
> not politically correct.
>
> I know what you're going to say: "Farah, the Al
> Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem
> represent Islam's third most holy sites."
>
> Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about
> Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times.
> It mentions Medina countless times. It never
> mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is
> no historical evidence to suggest Mohammad ever
> visited Jerusalem. So how did Jerusalem become
> the third holiest site of Islam?
>
> Muslims today cite a vague passage in the Koran,
> the seventeenth Sura, entitled "The Night
> Journey." It related that in a dream or a vision
> Mohammed was carried by night "from the sacred
> temple to the temple that is most remote, whose
> precinct we have blessed, that we might show him
> our signs...." In the seventh century, some
> Muslims identified the two temples mentioned in
> this verse as being in Mecca and Jerusalem.
>
> And that's as close as Islam's connection with
> Jerusalem gets -- myth, fantasy, wishful thinking.
> Meanwhile, Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem
> back to the days of Abraham.
>
> The latest round of violence in Israel erupted
> when Likud Party leader Ariel Sharon tried to
> visit the Temple Mount, the foundation of the
> Temple built by Solomon. It is the holiest site
> for Jews. Sharon and his entourage were met with
> stones and threats. I know what it's like. I've
> been there. Can you imagine what it is like for
> Jews to be threatened, stoned and physically kept
> out of the holiest site in Judaism?
>
> So what's the solution to the Middle East mayhem?
> Well, frankly, I don't think there is a man-made
> solution to the violence. But, if there is one,
> it needs to begin with truth. Pretending will
> only lead to more chaos.
>
> Treating a 5,000-year-old birthright backed by
> overwhelming historical and archaeological
> evidence equally with illegitimate claims, wishes
> and wants give diplomacy and peacekeeping a bad
> name."
>

 

[Sushi X]

good post. i agree with it 100%. palestine never and still does not exist, israel used to be larger than it is but war and foreign occupation have taken it's tole. israel was a nation more than 5000 years ago and was reborn in the mid 1900's. people talk about the oppressed palestinians(arabs) but what about the 1000's of years the jews were oppressed by foreign rule and arabic rule? i do think something has to be done about the current fighting but israel giving up land that belongs to them is not the answer.

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

call a spade a spade.. they are terrorists... they should all be beat down until they learn terrorism is not the way...

 

[Zirakzigil]

You all are dumbfucks.

1) It does not matter in the least what is holy and what is not.
2) It does not matter if there was ever or never a state called Palestine.

All that matters is 600,000 people living in what is now Israel were tossed out by the Jews from 1890 to 1950. Unfortunately, the descendants of these people feel the need to resort to terrorism to make their claims, and so I am with the Israelis all the way.

 

[Sushi X]

You all are dumbfucks.

1) It does not matter in the least what is holy and what is not.
2) It does not matter if there was ever or never a state called Palestine.

All that matters is 600,000 people living in what is now Israel were tossed out by the Jews from 1890 to 1950. Unfortunately, the descendants of these people feel the need to resort to terrorism to make their claims, and so I am with the israelites all the way.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

Well it will be well covered by the media that the Isrealies are giving the A-rabs all they can. We all know the A-rabs dont want isreal to exist. So eventually its just going to make all the A-rabs look bad and everyone will hate the A-rabs. Then when we find another form of fuel and the A-rabs are now suffering since they have no other exports, I will laugh...HAHAHA A-RABS

 

[Strong_Man20]

A more appropriate title for this post would have been a
"JEWISH point of view". This is just a pathetic and sad attempt to justify the THEFT of a land that was not legally the Jews to begin with.

There was a recognised Palestinian state for the Palestinians under the Ottoman Empire, before the British mandate gave it away to the Jews. The Jews mainly immigrated from (eastern Europe) before 1948. Before the Ottoman Empire collapsed there were no countries, it was similar to that of the United States, the Middle East and Turkey were a strong and united front. After the Ottoman Empire collapsed the British conquered and handed over this region to the Jews.

Jewish people did not start immigrating to Palestine before the end of the 19th century. And at that time there were less than 5% of Jewish people living in that region. The majority of Palestine before 1948 was Palestinians, and this is a fact.

http://www.mideastweb.org/PalPop.htm

Its funny how the Jewish people can deem it acceptable to throw a race of people out of there country into shit hole refugee camps to accommodate for anyone who is Jewish.

I mean how can a Jewish person consider “Israeli” to be a race?? If someone asked an Israeli were they were originally from, they couldn’t just say they were Israeli, they would have to say they were from eastern Europe or someplace else in the middle east. Basically to be an Israeli means you are a Jew. That alone just proves how racist that region is.

 

[Sushi X]

the hebrews(jews) occupied israel 5000 years ago and still do today. it was there land but like i said foreign invasion and occupation changed that. they've gotten most of their land back. let them keep it.