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Anyone Use Nubain???

BigCracker

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Are you hooked? Wanna quit? I've been off it for 9 months after using 2 -3 bottles weekly for about 5 yrs. Kicking was pretty tough-but the $$$ it freed up and the feeling of freedom from the dragon was well worth it. Anyway-the 1st 3 days really sucked-flu like symptoms/insomnia, and an all consuming feeling of being on edge. For almost a month I couldn't sleep more than 1-2 hrs a night. I'd be tired-but couldn't fall asleep-even with sleeping pills. After a month I started sleeping a little more every week. By week 6 I was sleeping fine but still craving the needle 2-3x a day. After 3 months I pretty much was over it. The scary part-if my source didn't run out 9 months ago I'd probably still be using today. I've been offered it again recently-but no way am I going through Wd's again.
 
Good for you man. I've had huge problems with opiates. I was in rehab at Silver Hill over the summer for Oxycotin. The day I got I began lifting like an animal. Now I’m obsessed with going to the gym everyday and supplements - legal and illegal. As addicted minded people we are, if were going to be addicted to something it might as well be a positive thing.
 
Yeah, I still have a hard time admitting to myself that I was hooked. Once I quit it seemed so right though. I couldn't leave my crib 6 hrs without a loaded pin. Kicking wasn't as bad as I had anticipated, but it still sucked. I've always been around plenty of recreational drugs and used plenty myself-but nothing I ever felt like I could get hooked on. I think roids may have saved my life in this way. Anything that fucks up my workout the next day (coke, meth, even alcohol)wasn't worth taking/using too often. Nubain was different though-I could use it for anything-waking up, going to sleep, or going to train. No matter what I was doing-it made it all good. It made dieting a breeze cuz it numbed my hunger pangs. Cardio was painless as well-even at 2 hrs a pop. However, it still wasn't worth being a slave to the bottle. My old connect called me last week-I never called him back. Hopefully that means I'm cured cuz that 12 step Jesus shit wouldn't do it for me.
 
BigCracker said:
Are you hooked? Wanna quit? I've been off it for 9 months after using 2 -3 bottles weekly for about 5 yrs. Kicking was pretty tough-but the $$$ it freed up and the feeling of freedom from the dragon was well worth it. Anyway-the 1st 3 days really sucked-flu like symptoms/insomnia, and an all consuming feeling of being on edge. For almost a month I couldn't sleep more than 1-2 hrs a night. I'd be tired-but couldn't fall asleep-even with sleeping pills. After a month I started sleeping a little more every week. By week 6 I was sleeping fine but still craving the needle 2-3x a day. After 3 months I pretty much was over it. The scary part-if my source didn't run out 9 months ago I'd probably still be using today. I've been offered it again recently-but no way am I going through Wd's again.
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I've had a good friend die from nubain. I suggest everyon stay away from it like it's the plague!
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
is nubain like heroin? is it shot IV?
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Yeah its a shot, I know its compared to heoin, as being just as addictivie, tried it a few times it was OK. Like stated already Ive only heard bad things.
 
My dad was friends with paul de mayo who died from heroin which originally started from nubain. Bad stuff.
 
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im a recovering herion addict. been sober one year. Nubain is in the opiate family but nothing like herion. anyone considering it should stay away from it. if anyone wants to talk about what it can do and why they shouldnt do it - pm me.
 
monster2929 said:
heard nothing but bad stuff bout nubain, im curious as to how many pro bodybuilders use the stuff
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I probably know over a dozen pros well enough to know their bad habits. At least 50% of them use nubain or used and kicked it. Personally I don't see how they can go back to it after kicking the habit. The 4 weeks of insomnia that follow makes life a living hell. Fortunately I have my own biz that allowed me to take time off. Even then I'd just stare at the TV like a zombie. I couldn't imagine working 40+ hrs a week on 1-2 hrs of sleep a night for a month.
 
Anyone with a true opiate dependency issue and is looking end addiction should consult with their physician and look into treatment with Subutex (Buprenorphine HCL), a kapa-opiod receptor antagonist as well as a partial mu-opiod receptor agonist, or Suboxone (Buprenorphine HCL/Naloxone HCL Dihydrate), a mu-opiod receptor antagonist. The immediate goal of treatment is to minimize and/or prevent withdrawl symptoms.

Jenetic
 
Jenetic said:
Anyone with a true opiate dependency issue and is looking end addiction should consult with their physician and look into treatment with Subutex (Buprenorphine HCL), a kapa-opiod receptor antagonist as well as a partial mu-opiod receptor agonist, or Suboxone (Buprenorphine HCL/Naloxone HCL Dihydrate), a mu-opiod receptor antagonist. The immediate goal of treatment is to minimize and/or prevent withdrawl symptoms.

Jenetic
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VERY TRUE

However, because I'm overcome the addiction, I found what works the best is going to a rehab. The main thing that is needed is counseling. And I actually recommend going through withdrawal with out assistance (ray Charles style) because that horrible memory will stay with you forever and u can remember that when u think about using again. As for subutex and bup's, I admit they are good when helping people "curb" their addiction but nobody's a fool - addicts that receive those will abuse/sell those just as heroin/oxycotin/methadone. My best recommendation: Therapy.

I'm glad a thread like this was started; it’s good to know that I’m not alone on some of my bad habits and behaviors
 
hey bro.. i tried to hit u up on PM but ur box is full... Nubain is horrible stuff... I was addicted to it for almost a year.. BIG TIME.... I lost a lot of friends and wasted a good year of my life.. Luckily I was young and was able to rebound.. My story was very similar to yours, if my source didnt lose his connections, than I would still be on it or dead... I feel ya.. That drug is so underrated its rediculous.. Very very dangerous
 
I went through the same thing with GHB, finally kicked it and i will never go back......i used it to sleep, to get through the day, to train, everything, coming off of it was HORRIBLE, i've heard it was worse than heroin, i've never done heroin, so i dont know, but it was a horrible withdraw
 
I used to be addicted to oxycontin.....man-made heroin they call it. It took me almost 3 years to completely quit. Coming off when your using daily is the worst. Havent touched the shit in like almost a year maybe a little less.
 
detoxing is one of the key elements in the recovery process. the misery that i went thru is almost enough in itself to stay sober. Alcoholics Anonymous is the REAL solution.
 
Stay away from the narcotics - Not worth it.
See the movie smashing machine - its a good one on a fighter getting hooked.
 
loik4 said:
Stay away from the narcotics - Not worth it.
See the movie smashing machine - its a good one on a fighter getting hooked.
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I know Mark Kerr. We have a lot of mutual friends in the bodybuilding/cagefighting community here in AZ. That documentary was more than just about Nubain-it was being in an insane sport, w/ a fucked up alcoholic, girlfriend too which only made shit worse. At least he had a support group to get him into rehab. I'm alone in this world-all of my relatives are dead-so I never had anybody close to pressure me into quitting. In fact, the people in my social circles don't believe that I ever had a problem cuz I hid it so well. I'm just glad my dealer ran out of stuff when he did and I was strong enough to kick on my own.
 
Im glad you came off that crap bro, very bad drug. I have a friend who is hooked on it right now, and has been for at least 4-5 years now. He used to have a great physique, now he looks like a crackhead. Feel bad for him, he overdosed 2x already..He is also using oxys, and vics too!!
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Im glad you came off that crap bro, very bad drug. I have a friend who is hooked on it right now, and has been for at least 4-5 years now. He used to have a great physique, now he looks like a crackhead. Feel bad for him, he overdosed 2x already..He is also using oxys, and vics too!!
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Fuck. That's sad. Email him a link to this thread. It might help him see through the drug haze.
 
oxycotin is stronger than heroin. its so bad. anyone that has overcome an OC addiction i gove mad props to. there is nothing in this world thats more lonely, cold, torturing, and painful than a hard core opiate addiction.

at the end of narcotics ananomous they always have a moment of silence for an addict that dies that minute. i wish we were all safe from these temptations in life. because once you know what that warm amazing feeling feels like you will always be tempted by it. You can always be strong and stay the course, but you'll always know that its right there. "Playing the whole tape through" in what really happens after that first use up untill rehab is what helps me stay the course. that, and lifting of course! peace
 
BigCracker said:
Fuck. That's sad. Email him a link to this thread. It might help him see through the drug haze.
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I doubt he would even know how to get on the internet, the way he is now. I feel bad for the guy, and he has a young daughter too. My friends and I tried to get him help, but he doesnt want it. Says he is fine. What can you do?
 
Jenetic said:
Anyone with a true opiate dependency issue and is looking end addiction should consult with their physician and look into treatment with Subutex (Buprenorphine HCL), a kapa-opiod receptor antagonist as well as a partial mu-opiod receptor agonist, or Suboxone (Buprenorphine HCL/Naloxone HCL Dihydrate), a mu-opiod receptor antagonist. The immediate goal of treatment is to minimize and/or prevent withdrawl symptoms.

Jenetic
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I'd have to disagree. U need to experience the withdrawls and remember the pain and agony that this opiate put u through! Minimizing or preventing the witdrawls disassociates the drug from the pain. It makes going back on that much easier.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
I doubt he would even know how to get on the internet, the way he is now. I feel bad for the guy, and he has a young daughter too. My friends and I tried to get him help, but he doesnt want it. Says he is fine. What can you do?
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its called tough love my friend. tell him you cant be his friend and that you are not going to condon his behavior. If nothing changes then nothing changes. If he gets to keep all his friends then why change? he gets to have his cake and eat it too.
 
firesprink420 said:
its called tough love my friend. tell him you cant be his friend and that you are not going to condon his behavior. If nothing changes then nothing changes. If he gets to keep all his friends then why change? he gets to have his cake and eat it too.
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Guys, i am new to this board, but I have been around the block. I wresteld in college, and have been doing MMA on and off for quite some time. I also do know quite a few MMA peoples as well as BBs from back in the day (Paul DeMayo I saw when I was quite young in the Wolds in Dedham, as well as Mattarazzo, etc.)

So many people have opiate habits, its not even funny, Nubain, H, Oxy's. Sorry for the soap opera, but let me tell you a little story about where this can take you. I started taking vics back when i was 27 years old for chronic bain and a myriad of surguries from sports injuries. They then started to prescribe me Oxycontin 80mgs (started with 2 a day). This went on for some time and I developed a habit without even knowing it (by then I was up to 5 80s a day). They then cut me off at the doctor and I started getting them at my work (in IT consulting back then, I was a VP of sales). My now illegal Oxy habit eventually turned into up to 20 80s a day (yes thats right). I was also by now tinkering in Dliaudid, Fentanyl, and Heroin when I could not get. The weird this is that I still maintianed a good physique and still trained consistiently (5'8'' and 220 with MMA 2-3 times a week).

I finally got fired from my 300K a year job because of taking xanax and Methadone to combat the withdrawls (I would nod off in the middle of meetings). I also got caught with like 300 Oxy's in my car and was sent away for 3 months to a min. security drug court/rehab in upstate NYC (with career felons and all, I had no record at the time). No matter though, I got out and tried to recover, but relapsed on H and was arrested in Paterson NJ with H and my Glock 40 (I had a permit in CT, but not in NJ). 2 weeks in Passaic county jail and now a Felon. This was one year ago.

To amke this long story short, do not ever think that nothing can happen to you. All actions have reactions. I thank god that I am working at the same level I once was (small SW companies do not do extensive background checks), and I am now training better than ever.

I hope this would help anyone who is thinking of trying any Opiates. Especially for us who train who are obsessive by nature.
 
stepheng1 said:
Guys, i am new to this board, but I have been around the block. I wresteld in college, and have been doing MMA on and off for quite some time. I also do know quite a few MMA peoples as well as BBs from back in the day (Paul DeMayo I saw when I was quite young in the Wolds in Dedham, as well as Mattarazzo, etc.)

So many people have opiate habits, its not even funny, Nubain, H, Oxy's. Sorry for the soap opera, but let me tell you a little story about where this can take you. I started taking vics back when i was 27 years old for chronic bain and a myriad of surguries from sports injuries. They then started to prescribe me Oxycontin 80mgs (started with 2 a day). This went on for some time and I developed a habit without even knowing it (by then I was up to 5 80s a day). They then cut me off at the doctor and I started getting them at my work (in IT consulting back then, I was a VP of sales). My now illegal Oxy habit eventually turned into up to 20 80s a day (yes thats right). I was also by now tinkering in Dliaudid, Fentanyl, and Heroin when I could not get. The weird this is that I still maintianed a good physique and still trained consistiently (5'8'' and 220 with MMA 2-3 times a week).

I finally got fired from my 300K a year job because of taking xanax and Methadone to combat the withdrawls (I would nod off in the middle of meetings). I also got caught with like 300 Oxy's in my car and was sent away for 3 months to a min. security drug court/rehab in upstate NYC (with career felons and all, I had no record at the time). No matter though, I got out and tried to recover, but relapsed on H and was arrested in Paterson NJ with H and my Glock 40 (I had a permit in CT, but not in NJ). 2 weeks in Passaic county jail and now a Felon. This was one year ago.

To amke this long story short, do not ever think that nothing can happen to you. All actions have reactions. I thank god that I am working at the same level I once was (small SW companies do not do extensive background checks), and I am now training better than ever.

I hope this would help anyone who is thinking of trying any Opiates. Especially for us who train who are obsessive by nature.
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Damn bro, good to hear you have cleaned yourself up, I know the feeling, once you start going downhill, it just gets steeper and steeper until something opens your eyes so to speak! Congrats on getting yourself back on track!!
 
good on you guys who have beaten the habit. i have never been there and never want to but i was hooked on cocaine for about four months once and never again. it messed my whole life up.
 
For me the bad part about Nubain was I could use it 24/7. At least w/ speedy drugs you eventually need to come down. Training and cardio on Nubain was awesome-I'd never feel tired. After awhile you had to slam just to feel normal. That's when it's too late.
 
DRRman said:
I went through the same thing with GHB, finally kicked it and i will never go back......i used it to sleep, to get through the day, to train, everything, coming off of it was HORRIBLE, i've heard it was worse than heroin, i've never done heroin, so i dont know, but it was a horrible withdraw
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GHB is scary shit. I used to love to take it and lay in the sun. Sometimes I'd fall asleep standing up and wake just as my legs started to buckle. Once I was standing by the pool in the wintertime(it's still 65 degrees outside, but the pool isn't heated so the water is fucking cold). I fell asleep standing, lost my footing, and ended up falling in the pool. I swear I thought I had just went down with the Titanic it was so cold. I'm surprised it didn't give me a heart attack. Thank God I didn't hit my head on the way down. Nobody was at the pool and I easily could've drowned.

All i use GHB for now is to unknowingly slip to girls I date like it should be. :p
 
How the hell is this stuff so readily available?

I kicked pills a couple years ago, and was around a lot of opiates, but never once heard of this.

Note: I'm not looking for a source. just shocked this stuff sounds so accessable.
 
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novamanms said:
How the hell is this stuff so readily available?

I kicked pills a couple years ago, and was around a lot of opiates, but never once heard of this.

Note: I'm not looking for a source. just shocked this stuff sounds so accessable.
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It is among the bodybuilding/steroid crowd. It's most common medical use is with women about to go into labor. It's scheduled in a different class than morphine though-it's not as controled. Nalbuphine Hydrochloride is the actual name of the stuff. A 10 ml bottle of 20mg/ml costs about the same as an 8 ball of blow. A standard dose is 10-20mgs.
 
MASSIVEMONSTER said:
is ghb the date rape drug?
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Yep-up until the early 90's it could be purchased in powder form at health food stores. BB's used it as a sleep aid in hopes the deep sleep it promotes would create an increase in gh release. The stuff available on the streets is home brewed-and I believe possession is a felony in most states now. It looks just like water and has a mild chemical taste. Mixing it with alcohol or other drugs can be fatal since it slows your breathing dramatically. I've also heard of people using it and dying from being smothered by their own pillow They go into such a deep sleep they can't even wake up when they aren't getting air. Smaller doses are used to decrease sexual inhibitions. Unfortunately since it's home brew potency can vary from batch to batch-so you never really know how much you're taking-making it pretty easy to OD.
 
I took G once before it was illegal. FUCKED ME UP.

This Nubain shit sounds pretty horrid, too.
 
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