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Anyone one else in for a long night?

ladymacbeth

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My finals will never be over, and it looks like it's going to be an all-nighter. I hate, hate, hiz-ate this shit. I can't believe I let this all go until the last minute...

That being said, post some funny shit here to keep me awake...make fun of my web page...just say hello...

And if you're so inclined, talk to me about...

a. The Harlem Renaissance, and why people think that it is just too damn sexy.

b. Why I should fucking listen to Nietzsche when he thought he was the Dionysus and was a crazy bastard anyway.

c. Just post some dirty pics.

Thanks!:bawling: :happyscra :bawling:
 
the People's Champ said:
you have a webpage? what's the url?

see the little house under my name? I put it together for a class, it's kind of a joke because the site's so gay, but I did it over a year ago, so my skills have improved...

but please, make fun away!

;)
 
I'll be up doing al the work I should've done on spring break. Prolly won't be an all nighter though. Spring ball starts tomorrow and I gotta rest up.
 
yep,

You have tri-mesters I take it? I have a couple of friends in Cali that have those. How do you like it?
 
studcj said:
yep,

You have tri-mesters I take it? I have a couple of friends in Cali that have those. How do you like it?

quarters...yeah, it's ok, we have a hell of a long christmas break, but a short spring break...this would be fine in Cali, I suppose, but in Ohio, it sucks.
 
Does that system allow you to take more credit hours over the course of the year? I took 15,and 15 this semester.
So a total of 30 on the year + summer school.
 
studcj said:
Does that system allow you to take more credit hours over the course of the year? I took 15,and 15 this semester.
So a total of 30 on the year + summer school.

I don't think hours work the same for quarters as for semesters...usually one class =5 hours, and 15 hours is average, since a quarter is only 10 weeks. Summers are broken up into two sessions, so I think you can take more...I don't know....

Come on studcj, you're not being very entertaining... :(

heehee...j/k
 
Hey! We can't post dirty pics here! This is Chat and Conversation! What're you trying to do, cause trouble?!? :D

entertaining...gotta be entertaining.... hmmm...
 
TheProject said:
Hey! We can't post dirty pics here! This is Chat and Conversation! What're you trying to do, cause trouble?!? :D

entertaining...gotta be entertaining.... hmmm...

this had better be good...I have high expectations for you...:mad:
 
a. The Harlem Renaissance, and why people think that it is just too damn sexy.
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I can best explain why the Harlem Renaissance was considered so "sexy" by starting with an anecdotal story about Ezra Pound.

When Allen Ginsberg was a very young man, he went to visit Pound in the insane asylum. For the most part Pound enjoyed the meeting, and the fact that Allen brought him thick slab bread and mayonaise. (Pound had a thing for mayonaise on bread.) But suddenly during the meeting, Pound's mood took a sudden downward shift. He buried his head in his hands and murmered over and over, "I am sick. I am sick." Allen asked him if he meant his body or his mind. Pound answered, "My mind. All I do is create great balls of crystal that no one can lift."

*****************

The Harlem Renaissance came on the heals of the Imagist era of poetry. There was some spirit and passion in the Imagist school, but for the most part they became ever more infatuated with their own cleverness, their hidden meanings and literary allusions. Erudite symbolism replaced the beating heart.

The Harlem Renaissance was in a large part made up of less "schooled" writers. They discovered literature, writing, rythm, and passion outside of the Ivy League schools. They were raw. They were gritty. They were colorful, passionate, melodious, and alive... at a time when poetry was becoming a dead voice.

How can anyone not find that sexy?
 
ladymacbeth said:


this had better be good...I have high expectations for you...:mad:

Crap, now there's expectations. How the hell am I going to live up to that?

Got no funny stories off the top of my head...this ain't the medium for singing and dancing, and I dance like Grover anyway...

hmmmm...
 
It's merely symptomatic of our post-modern ennui.

There are no absolutes, unless you perceive our world as meaningless, when it's really your own freedom you detest!


































I like pork!
 
Re: Re: Anyone one else in for a long night?

SofaGeorge said:


I can best explain why the Harlem Renaissance was considered so "sexy" by starting with an anecdotal story about Ezra Pound.

When Allen Ginsberg was a very young man, he went to visit Pound in the insane asylum. For the most part Pound enjoyed the meeting, and the fact that Allen brought him thick slab bread and mayonaise. (Pound had a thing for mayonaise on bread.) But suddenly during the meeting, Pound's mood took a sudden downward shift. He buried his head in his hands and murmered over and over, "I am sick. I am sick." Allen asked him if he meant his body or his mind. Pound answered, "My mind. All I do is create great balls of crystal that no one can lift."

*****************

The Harlem Renaissance came on the heals of the Imagist era of poetry. There was some spirit and passion in the Imagist school, but for the most part they became ever more infatuated with their own cleverness, their hidden meanings and literary allusions. Erudite symbolism replaced the beating heart.

The Harlem Renaissance was in a large part made up of less "schooled" writers. They discovered literature, writing, rythm, and passion outside of the Ivy League schools. They were raw. They were gritty. They were colorful, passionate, melodious, and alive... at a time when poetry was becoming a dead voice.

How can anyone not find that sexy?

Well, less schooled for some, though authors like Jean Toomer and Hughes were ivy league...I also believe that Toomer's father was once the governor of Louisiana. I think Countee Cullen writes shitty poetry, though.

I'm actually using some of Cantos in my paper, specifically the part addressed to Robert Browning. Pound was pretty nutty, but I love his translations of Chinese poetry (he didn't speak chinese at all, he just wrote what he thought the poems meant by looking at them and knowing a very few words).

My paper is on the erotic and primitive in harlem renaissance literature, and why it's not a function of blackness and rather a function of Modernism in itself. Faulkner and Joyce and Pound used the same themes, but are not judged on their "sexiness" (if you will) like harlem writers are. Keep in mind, I'm dealing with lit here and not music, visual art, etc...

It's all coming out so hard...I just wish I were done and drinking like I should be on St. Patty's day...!
 
too bad it isn't art or i could be of assistance...

instead i will post smut.

glxxx.jpg
 
Re: Re: Re: Anyone one else in for a long night?

ladymacbeth said:


Well, less schooled for some, though authors like Jean Toomer and Hughes were ivy league...I also believe that Toomer's father was once the governor of Louisiana. I think Countee Cullen writes shitty poetry, though.

I'm actually using some of Cantos in my paper, specifically the part addressed to Robert Browning. Pound was pretty nutty, but I love his translations of Chinese poetry (he didn't speak chinese at all, he just wrote what he thought the poems meant by looking at them and knowing a very few words).

My paper is on the erotic and primitive in harlem renaissance literature, and why it's not a function of blackness and rather a function of Modernism in itself. Faulkner and Joyce and Pound used the same themes, but are not judged on their "sexiness" (if you will) like harlem writers are. Keep in mind, I'm dealing with lit here and not music, visual art, etc...

It's all coming out so hard...I just wish I were done and drinking like I should be on St. Patty's day...!

Langston Hughes wasn't embraced by most of the writers who made up the Harlem Renaissance. Oddly, though, I think he left the strongest impression of them all, and not because of the greatness of his work but because of the "fineness." He was a crafted writer, much more skilled in the "fine" craft of verse. If you reconnect the lines of many of his best poems, you will find sonnets, and other fixed verse where after writing a crafted piece, he broke up the lines to disguise his work. (Gwendolyn Brooks said she sometimes thought it was simply an economic decision. Poetry back then paid by the line. Splitting the lines got you paid twice or three times as much. Sometimes, though, she said she thought it was because he so loved the roots of literature, yet knew he would not be accepted as a "black" writer if he followed in the footsteps of old white writers.)

Sugestion...

Instead of the CANTOS... why not quote from Vachel Linday's THE CONGO... and when your teacher points out that he wasn't part of the Harlem Renaissance... look at your professor wide eyed and innocent and say, "Huh, you mean he wasn't black?"

P.S. Have you heard the Caedmon Albums with Pound reading the Cantos while he was in the nut house? The two girls who recorded the albums (literally all they had was an ancient reel-to-reel tape machine) went to the asylum and bribed him to read his work with a piece of cheese. You can hear the nuts hooting and hollering in the background as he reads.
 
Not as good as Smalls smut, but...

Congo
Vachel Lindsay
public domain, 1912


I. Their Basic Savagery
Fat black bucks in a wine-barrel room,
Barrel-house kings, with feet unstable,
Sagged and reeled and pounded on the table,
Pounded on the table,
Beat an empty barrel with the handle of a broom,
Hard as they were able,
Boom, boom, Boom,
With a silk umbrella and the handle of a broom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, Boom.

THEN I had religion. I could not turn from their revel in derision.
THEN I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK,
CUTTING THROUGH THE JUNGLE WITH A GOLDEN TRACK.
Then along that river-bank
A thousand miles
Tattoed cannibals danced in files;
Then I heard the boom of the blood-lust song
And a thigh-bone beating on a tin-pan gong.
And "BLOOD" screamed the whistles and the fifes of the warriors,
"BLOOD" screamed the skull-faced, lean witch-doctors,
"Whirl ye the deadly voodoo rattle,
Harry the uplands,
Steal all the cattle,
Rattle-rattle, rattle-rattle,
Bing!
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, Boom,"
A roaring, epic, rag-time tune
From the mouth of the Congo
To the Mountains of the Moon.
Death is an Elephant,
Torch-eyed and horrible,
Foam-flanked and terrible.
Boom, ...
Boom, ...
Boom, ...
Like the wind
Hoo, Hoo, Hoo.
Listen to the yell of Leopold's ghost
Burning in hell for his hand-maimed host.
Hear how the demons chuckle and yell.
Cutting his hands off, down in Hell.
Listen to the creepy proclamation,
Blown through the lairs of the forest-nation,
Blown past the white-ants' hill of clay,
Blown past the marsh where the butterflies
play: -
"Be careful what you do,
Or Mumbo-jumbo', God of the Congo,
And all of the other
Gods of the Congo,
Mumbo-jumbo will hoo-doo you,
Mumbo-jumbo will hoo-doo you,
Mumbo-jumbo will hoo-doo you."


II. Their Irrepressible High Spirits
Wild crap-shooters with a whoop and a call
Danced the juba in their gambling-hall And laughed fit to kill, and shook the town,
And guyed the policemen and laughed them down
With a boomlay, boomlay, boomlay,
Boom....

THEN I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK,
CUTTING THROUGH THE JUNGLE WITH A GOLDEN TRACK.

A Negro fairyland swung into view,
A minstrel river
Where dreams come true.
The ebony palace soared on high
Through the blossoming trees to the evening sky.
The inlaid porches and casement shone
With gold and ivory and elephant-bone.
And the black crowd laughed till their sides were sore
At the baboon butler in the agate door,
And the well-known tunes of the parrot band
That trilled on the bushes of that magic land.

A troupe of skull-faced witch-men came Through the agate doorway in suits of flame,
Yea, long-tailed coats with a gold-leaf crust
And hats that were covered with diamond-dust.
And the crowd in the court gave a whoop and a call
And danced the juba from wall to wall.
But the witch-men suddenly stilled the throng
With a stern cold glare, and a stern old song: -
"Mumbo-jumbo will hoo-doo you." . . .
Just then from the doorway, as fat as shoats,
Came the cake-walk princes in their long red coats,
Shoes with a patent-leather shine,
And tall silk hats that were red as wine.
And they pranced with their butterfly partners there,
Coal-black maidens with pearls in their hair,
Knee-skirts trimmed with the jessamine sweet,
And bells on their ankles and little black feet.
And the couples railed at the chant and the frown
Of the witch-men lean, and laughed them down.
(O rare was the revel and well worth while
That made those glowering witch-men smile.)

The cake-walk royalty then began
To walk for a cake that was tall as a man
To the tune of " Boomlay, boomlay,
Boom,"
While the witch-men laughed with a sinister air,
And sang with the scalawags prancing there:
"Walk with care, walk with care
Or Mumbo-jumbo, God of the Congo,
And all of the other
Gods of the Congo,
Mumbo-jumbo will hoo-doo you.
Beware, beware, walk with care,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay, boom,
Boomlay, boomlay, boomlay,
Boom."
Oh, rare was the revel, and well worth while
That made those glowering witch-men smile.

III. The Hope of Their Religion

A good old Negro in the slums of the town
Preached at a sister for her velvet gown.
Howled at a brother for his low-down ways,
His prowling, guzzling, sneak-thief days.
Beat on the Bible till he wore it out,
Starting the jubilee revival shout.
And some had visions, as they stood on chairs,
And sang of Jacob, and the golden stairs,
And they all repented, a thousand strong,
From their stupor and savagery and sin and wrong
And slammed their hymn books till they shook the room
With " Glory, glory, glory,"
And "Boom, boom, Boom."

THEN I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH THE BLACK,
CUTTING THROUGH THE JUNGLE WITH A GOLDEN TRACK.
And the gray sky opened like a new-rent
veil
And showed the apostles with their coats of mail.
In bright white steel they were seated round
And their fire-eyes watched where the Congo wound.
And the twelve apostles, from their thrones on high,
Thrilled all the forest with their heavenly cry: -
"Mumbo-jumbo will die in the jungle;
Never again will he hoo-doo you,
Never again will he hoo-doo you."

Then along that river-bank, a thousand miles,
The vine-snared trees fell down in files.
Pioneer angels cleared the way
For a Congo paradise, for babes at play,
For sacred capitols, for temples clean.
Gone were the skull-faced witch-men lean.
There, where the wild ghost-gods had wailed
A million boats of the angels sailed
With oars of silver, and prows of blue
And silken pennants that the sun shone through.
'Twas a land transfigured, 'twas a new creation,
Oh, a singing wind swept the Negro nation;
And on through the backwoods clearing
flew: -

Mumbo-jumbo is dead in the jungle.
Never again will he hoo-doo you.
Never again will he hoo-doo you."

Redeemed were the forests, the beasts and the men,
And only the vulture dared again
By the far, lone mountains of the moon
To cry, in the silence, the Congo tune: -
Mumbo-jumbo will hoo-doo you.
Mumbo-jumbo will hoo-doo you,
Mumbo ... jumbo ... will ... hoo-doo
. ... you.
 
smallmovesal said:
definitely not as good as my smut :D

Kind of cool though if you hear how he read it. His vocal style was unique... and only Vachel Lindsay should ever read Vachel Lindsay.

He died by drinking a bottle of Lysol.
 
dballer said:
Listen to BLACK SABBATH

Seriously dballer, where else could I get my inspiration?


As for YOU sofa george, maybe I should have checked up on this thread earlier to get inspiration. Don't worry, the stuff from Cantos fit right into my paper, but Congo was nice, and I've never read it. I also used a little bit of Finnegan's Wake, as my concentration is Irish Modern Lit, so that stuff is a little easier to rap my brain around. I always cop out and just start quoting things I've already studied... :rolleyes:

Smalls, yes, I'm an English major, and my concentration is Irish Modern, my minor concentration is creative writing. Ohso exciting, I know...plus, I like smut, but they didn't have a smut track or I would have taken it...:lmao:

And Project, I'm still not entertained. WTF?
 
SofaGeorge said:


Kind of cool though if you hear how he read it. His vocal style was unique... and only Vachel Lindsay should ever read Vachel Lindsay.

He died by drinking a bottle of Lysol.


Dostoevsky's father died from having vodka poured down his throat by his sailors...
:worried:
 
If you have a lot of reading to do, try singint the words instead of just reading. That'll make reading OODLES of fun AND it may help you remember facts during your final. LOL.


Lemme know if that actually works...:FRlol:
 
ladymacbeth said:



Dostoevsky's father died from having vodka poured down his throat by his sailors...
:worried:

Best poet death of all... Hart Crane died when he jumped off a passenger ship at night on his way back from South America.

Footnote to this: When W.C. Williams died, his last request was that his ashes be dumped at see at the exact longitude and latitude where Hart Crane jumped.
 
An English major???

if you really do like Sabbath... ....... I am speechless
 
dballer said:
An English major???

if you really do like Sabbath... ....... I am speechless

baby, I don't like Sabbath...I love them...all. night. long. Ozzy is my boyfriend (well, as soon as I break up with David Lee, John Tempesta, the former drummer of Exodus and current drummer for Rob Zombie)...Rock and Fucking roll...
 
ladymacbeth said:


baby, I don't like Sabbath...I love them...all. night. long. Ozzy is my boyfriend (well, as soon as I break up with David Lee, John Tempesta, the former drummer of Exodus and current drummer for Rob Zombie)...Rock and Fucking roll...

I am listening to Cal Jam 1974 right now
 
SofaGeorge said:


Best poet death of all... Hart Crane died when he jumped off a passenger ship at night on his way back from South America.

Footnote to this: When W.C. Williams died, his last request was that his ashes be dumped at see at the exact longitude and latitude where Hart Crane jumped.

NO, best poet death = Sylvia Plath. When she stuck her head in the oven, she really had meant to be caught by her maid as she showed up for work...but the maid was late. Papers, diary entries, and recently finished works she had in her office when she killed herself indicated this...:lmao: she was a spoiled rich white girl with questionable talent anyway...
 
dballer said:


I am listening to Cal Jam 1974 right now

fuckin' ay, my post didn't make any damn sense...I'm listening to use your illusion I...yesssss...GnR rock me, and I'm not ashamed to admit it...
 
ladymacbeth said:


fuckin' ay, my post didn't make any damn sense...I'm listening to use your illusion I...yesssss...GnR rock me, and I'm not ashamed to admit it...

I like that cd.. I like the Rose Tattoo song on there
 
ladymacbeth said:


NO, best poet death = Sylvia Plath. When she stuck her head in the oven, she really had meant to be caught by her maid as she showed up for work...but the maid was late. Papers, diary entries, and recently finished works she had in her office when she killed herself indicated this...:lmao: she was a spoiled rich white girl with questionable talent anyway...

She was definitely not a worthy talent, and in my oppinion the Confessional poets were the final death of modern poetry.

I disagree, though, on whether or not she intended to be found. Frieda's version of what happened is very different from Ted's.

Frieda was a very young child. Ted was an adult.

The crackers and milk were left for a reason.
 
SofaGeorge said:


She was definitely not a worthy talent, and in my oppinion the Confessional poets were the final death of modern poetry.


I have major issues with Plath because she truly was so whiny...I love Daddy, and her one poem about picking blackberries, but she just never does it form me...rich white girl angst only goes so far.

Ever read any of Ted's stuff? I never have, but I just assume that he's talentless, because I've read a lot of Elizabeth Wurtzel, and she seems to think he's talentless. And I believe everything Elizabeth Wurtzel says. Ever. Hehe...

Do you like Lucie Brock Broido, btw? She's one of my favorites...
 
ladymacbeth said:


I have major issues with Plath because she truly was so whiny...I love Daddy, and her one poem about picking blackberries, but she just never does it form me...rich white girl angst only goes so far.

Ever read any of Ted's stuff? I never have, but I just assume that he's talentless, because I've read a lot of Elizabeth Wurtzel, and she seems to think he's talentless. And I believe everything Elizabeth Wurtzel says. Ever. Hehe...

Do you like Lucie Brock Broido, btw? She's one of my favorites...

Sylvia didn't have "rich white girl" angst. She was a manic depressive. She was genuinely tortured by a chemical imbalance which runs in her family. I don't know how much you know about bipolar syndrome, but it is horrible to watch someone live with. When they are manic they are kings/queens of the world, powerful, wild, crazed, creative, hillarious... but when the depression hits... it's bad... very very bad. Suicide is common.

I've read most of what Ted has written. He was one of my favorite people in the world. I think if you had had the chance to meet him as friend or student you may have felt the same way. He was brilliant, charismatic, and had a genuine gift as a writer.

http://ann.skea.com/THHome.htm

My favorite collection by Ted is CROW. His work is widely recognized at this time.

Elizabeth Wurtzel on the other hand is basically talentless. I'm sort of lost as why you consider her a mentionable critic.
 
hmmm...maybe I'll post here then, though I doubt too many people will get it. He looks like Jeff Buckley if he would have lived, and been addicted to heroin and mescaline...

:lmao:

Best quote EVER when I've shown somebody this pic:

"Hey, that dude's a really good drummer!"--my buddy Jon (which he is, but that's beside the point. He recognized Tempesta from this rancid pic)
 
SofaGeorge said:


I've read most of what Ted has written. He was one of my favorite people in the world. I think if you had had the chance to meet him as friend or student you may have felt the same way. He was brilliant, charismatic, and had a genuine gift as a writer.

http://ann.skea.com/THHome.htm

My favorite collection by Ted is CROW. His work is widely recognized at this time.

Elizabeth Wurtzel on the other hand is basically talentless. I'm sort of lost as why you consider her a mentionable critic.

Touche.

Though the Wurtzel mention was me being silly. However, I do occasionally like to read about Amy Fisher during my geeky pontification on modernism. I suppose I'm biased towards stronger women, because Ted was such a jerk, and she wrought out an existence based on him. I feel pretty stupid talking about her, because I don't have much biographical information on her, and I don't like to talk out of my ass. Bipolar disorder is indeed very serious, but I also believe that, especially for women, Sylvia Plath is held up as some kind of ideal, when I find her very weak. Yes, mental illness is not weakness, but for her to be some kind of representative of women in literature is, for me, a bit insulting.

I prefer Broido, and nobody ever agrees with me.

compare,

"A small white soul is waving, a small white maggot.
My limbs, also, have left me.
Who has dismembered us?

The dark is melting. We touch like cripples."

With
(ok, ok, I have to go look this one up)
"Everyone knows an unworshipped woman will betray you.
There is always this promise, I like that. Kingdom of Kinesis.
Kingdom of Benevolent. I will betray as a god betrays,
With tenderheartedness. I've got this mystic streak in me"

I just think some are better. Maybe I'm bitter. Don't hate me, I'm just an undergrad...
:)
 
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