Anyone have anything BAD to say about 1-AD (compared to a real AAS)

[pa1ad]

We still have people saying "andro sucks" on questions concerning 1-AD and 1-test -- if one cannot conceptually grasp (or refuses to) that original andro and the later generation products are different molecules, and thus have different effects, then they cannot be expected to grasp much of anything

Oh but isn't that just what you would want us to believe?

FUCK YOU SCAM ARTIST!!!!!!!!

 

[Thaibox]

ThaiBox:

If you don't understand the statement then I'm not going to explain it to you.

On another note I'm sorry you could only produce 400hp on motor alone.

Okay, what did your brilliant analogy mean?

Yeah, 420hp at the rear wheels from an LT-1 done in my garage without a s/c, or NOS is pathetic isn't it? What do you drive slick?

 

[MIKERAZ]

this is why the dose is in the hundreds of milligrams a day for these products, to make up for the poor oral bioavailablity. If you could inject these products then they would be quite comparable milligram to milligram to most anabolic steroids out there.

I'm not trying to pick a fight in anyway shape or form but, that statement is very inacurate. Over at animals board many people have been making injectable 4ad and nordiol using either a water suspension kit or a oil suspension kit. I have read a few posts and HAVE not read one where the person has gained a significant amount of weight. Most report strength, full look etc, but no muscle. Now if you ask people who take Deca,Test cyp,prop ,dianabol etc you see high increases in muscle like 10-15 pounds so you really cant say that these compounds as injectables would be comparable to common stuff.

Just a side note i asked animal about the anadrol pro-hormone thing he said its ludicrous because its not a diol , anadrol-diol would be the Pro-hormone to anadrol, and if its a pro-hormone then what hormones is it converting to .

He also stated methylation is very hard because getting a alpha vs a beta is very hard and is a 50-50 chance and since beta is inactive it could possible ruin the entire synthesis.

 

[javaguru]

Stanalozol only cycles give very little in the way of mass gains but people get full, tight, strong and love it. It seems that 4-AD's primary method of action is not AR mediated which would explain why people haven't gotten huge mass gains. Likewise, the injectable product is also "suspect" in these cases due to impurities and the inability to suspend the 4-AD for any length of time. Honestly, I've never been a big fan of suspensions but a 4-AD ester would open the door for a decent solution.

 

[MIKERAZ]

I'm a little disapointed that PA didnt respond i guess i finally got him.

Now to your response, the impurities isnt the issue , neither is half life as animal took care of that by puttign 4ad in oil suspension and he said oil suspension has the same half life as propionate ester . and many peoplev have been using 4ad in oil and still no mass. and animal even said all esters do is just make it oil soluble it does NOTHING to potency . damn feels good to be right.

 

[megadeth]

MIKERAZ,

No disrespect bro, but you should start a new religion call "animalism". You act is if everything that comes out of his mouth is FACT. Although, I have alot of respect for of his knowledge. He has been wrong on many occations. No one is always right, including Animal!


megadeth

 

[MIKERAZ]

Sorry par but i must call bullshit, injectable is better then transdermal and you cant argue extended release because people did 4ad in oil and animal says it has the same halflife as prop molecule.

 

[TheBear]

MIKERAZ...can you please SHUT THE HELL UP. I am so godamn sick of reading your bullshit posts. You constantly question the knowledge of others...this isnt a classroom where your job is to "question" every goddamn thing. Did you ever think that you didnt STUMP pa1ad..he just got sick of reading your goddamn annoying posts????

 

[MIKERAZ]

Na he would of corrected me ,hes stumped

 

[Par Deus]

Sorry par but i must call bullshit, injectable is better then transdermal and you cant argue extended release because people did 4ad in oil and animal says it has the same halflife as prop molecule.

Surely, you are just a troll and not being serious in all of your posts.