Anybody here 200lbs or under?

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

some excellent replies here. I was once like you and managed to get up to 190 naturally from starting at 140. With gear I have moved onto 220`s now.
Food is the most important thing for gaining weight period.
Keep upping your calories until you get even to 5000 a day if your not gaining much fat then your body needs this amount to grow.
Using AAS will help to a degree but you gotta eat really well for a year or two first. Its always best to build a natural base. Eating a lot consistently is hard work, hence why guys turn to gear too early on.

 

[Outtlaw]

All you guys saying you can gain 20-30lbs of muscle in a year NATTY are full of it. I dont care who you are, no one can build that much muscle, that fast, naturally. If you can get 7-10lbs of muscle in a year natty then you are doing EXTREMELY well.

As far as genetic limitations. There's still a lot of debate on that, and still a lot of stuff I (and WE) dont know about. I used to believe like many that everyone could get to 200lbs naturally. But after talking to some people and reading peoples post on the boards Im not so sure anymore. There are many top level athletes that know a hell of a lot about diet and training that are just naturally small; and were never able to break 200lbs without gear.

You cant group everyone in the same class when it comes to genetic ability. If so, Frank Zane could've easily out massed Arnold if he just ate enough food and trained correctly.

 

[boston789]

5'8 - 195lbs - 12%BF - Been cycling for a few years and just started hitting it hard a year ago. I just turned 23 the other day.

 

[Jayhawk21]

This guy probably isn't ready for gear, but I don't think it's always right to tell people you have to get to 200 pounds, or you should be able to. Eating 4500 cals a day, and pretty much taking up ALL of my time of the day to eat and lift I still could not get past 180. I wrote it all down, I did not go out, and I still could not get past 180. I have no idea what some of you guys do who have full-time jobs with harsh schedules where you can't get breaks often. I can't even fathom it.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

I got to 185 at 5`8 naturally but looking back I could have eaten more protien and more food in general, trained differently (not just powerlifting training) and not got pissed as much as i used to and i think 195 would have been achieveable. I do agree though not every one can reach these levels naturally, genetics is the underlining factor. My bro is 140lb at 5`7 and he would never get near 200lb but he does eat like a bird

 

[pursuit]

This thread is good. Its giving me the motivation to get it together and put some more pounds on naturally.
5'11, 180lbs, 10%

 

[njmuscleguy]

I have to agree with Outlaw and Jayhawk here... I've trained for 10 years now...still no expert, but learning alot more every day... and at 5'7", the highest I could attain naturally was 165 lbs, not matter what I did... no matter what supplements I took... no matter how I ate... well, I probably could've taken in an extra 1,000 - 2,000 calories a day, but that would mean taking on ALOT of fat.... I'd have gained the weight but at the expense of losing any shape or musculature.... after my first cycle (age 28) I only gained about 5-7 pounds total... and lost it all...did alot of research on AAS and diet and then after my second, I gained about 12 pounds and kept 7.... in retrospect, if I ate more, I would've gained more... but again, at what expense?... I guess the whole point I'm making is that I'd have a very tough time getting to 200 lbs naturally (let alone with help!)... and if I did get to 200lbs naturally at this point, it'd be from eating alot of Burger King and Dairy Queen.... I can barely take in 4,500 calories eating CLEAN.... how the heck does one take in 6,000 CLEAN calories (as was suggested in this thread)??

 

[timtim]

i carry 186 lbs right now at 5'5". i maintain this lean. i had to take 2 years to force myself to grow. this meant looking like shit for awhile but in my case thats what it took. i got to 220 (all natural) and then slowly over the years cut what wasnt necessary. if you are a hard gainer you have to dedicate alot of time to getting big naturally. not everyone can get up in weight. i could never maintain 200 under 10% bf, impossible. its about knowing your own limits. but if you want to get big you have to force your body to grow and i believe this means getting fat. i would never do a bulk/cut phase again to get big because i paid my dues. but i do think that if you want to take that step into being thick you have to stretch the fascia. this wont happen eating clean. but i dont believe in this now, i sacrificed 2 years of looking like shit to get to where i am. never again. it did work though.

 

[karachi183]

I started at about 160-something a few years back and have done only dbol once (completely loved it)and creatines different protein shakes etc.. and right now i'm sitting at 180-something at prolly 12-15% BF (really not sure) but i look the same as far as stomach and waist size (33) and i put on 20 lbs since joining elite. Believe me brotha time and patients is the key as is eating like madman... It can be done.. This time next year hopefully i'll be a comfortable 200 or just under 200 lb guy.

 

[Retabolil2]

160lbs. how tall are you?

MrX whats your weight? Over 200lbs I hope?