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Any vegetarians here?

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Do you eat eggs? Why do you choose to live this way?
Jesus was not a vegetarian so I don't have to be right?
 
Mars
 
zwhit said:
This exactly why I ask. Most of your threads are "left field type shit"
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And that is proof addiction of any kind? (left field) I am a known entrepreneur mah brotha, if I spoke and acted like everyone else I would have a boss and shitty life like everyone else too.
So.. you are claiming to make better threads than me? Can't think of any yours zhitster.. you should play the game before getting yo talk on sun.
 
lartinos said:
And that is proof addiction of any kind? (left field) I am a known entrepreneur mah brotha, if I spoke and acted like everyone else I would have a boss and shitty life like everyone else too.
So.. you are claiming to make better threads than me? Can't think of any yours zhitster.. you should play the game before getting yo talk on sun.
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You're also a known t shirt foldin' mall rat. Wtf does any of that have to do with anything?
 
miplank said:
You're also a known t shirt foldin' mall rat. Wtf does any of that have to do with anything?
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Truth, that was me..
But anyone tells their boss to STFU and walks out is not like the rest of the people.
I don't care if they start a business and it makes only 50 grand, that person is different from the robots around them. For someone to tell me to be like other people is laughable, my only bout with any type of substance abuse was also years ago (drinking too much after that break-up about 3 years ago) and I have spoken about that openly on here before.
Anytime someone tries to squelch my creativity it makes me feel like I am back as the manager at the clothing store or being a relationship with Ho from back in the day.
 
lartinos said:
And that is proof addiction of any kind? (left field) I am a known entrepreneur mah brotha, if I spoke and acted like everyone else I would have a boss and shitty life like everyone else too.
So.. you are claiming to make better threads than me? Can't think of any yours zhitster.. you should play the game before getting yo talk on sun.
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So basically you're saying your life revolves around zwhit?
 
That doesn't make you special bro. Everyone has their breaking point, you just may be a little more hot headed than others.
 
lartinos said:
And that is proof addiction of any kind? (left field) I am a known entrepreneur mah brotha, if I spoke and acted like everyone else I would have a boss and shitty life like everyone else too.
So.. you are claiming to make better threads than me? Can't think of any yours zhitster.. you should play the game before getting yo talk on sun.
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lol
 
AFeedz said:
So basically you're saying your life revolves around zwhit?
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In every way. I follow him on FB and everything.
Zwhit is a cool dood, he fishes with his call outs. And I just... called that out :)
 
Weird= bad Mitch.
You guys get too caught up in shit. I am different here than FB, I have many friends from EF on there. EF to me is about writing whatever I want more freely.
FB is a different world where you have to be PC to a certain extent and care more about what people think.
Here I know that people should take certain things with a grain of salt.
It's always the people who don't create threads that talk shit, lol.
If we went through and checked total views of threads for the last 5 years I would be near the top. So should I judge myself based on what zwhit and mitch say? Or should it be based on peoples interactions? Ya, I will go based on interactions and not people who don't really create threads or are really known for doing so. Anyone can just chirp and bitch and complain in other people's threads. People who open themselves up are the ones who really get the attentions. Why do I get so much attention on here? Because I am weird/interesting? Whatever.. it's fun and I honestly don't need everyone talking about me here all the time.. but I would prefer that to chirp threads for sure!
 
AFeedz said:
It's not there to write paragraphs. But if you absolutely need to there are places to write extended tweets.
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Ya, the lack of characters make it a no go for me.
I tried and I didn't like it like a lot of other people.
 
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I thought I'd try being vegan next month because I'm trying beef / steak tartare daily right now. No reason other than to try it.
 
I'm going to Morton's Of Chicago tomorrow to get a double cut filet mingon with bernaise sauce, no vegetables.
 
Pick3 is going to Cutter's tonight to get a triple-serving of sawsage.
 
lartinos said:
Do you eat eggs? Why do you choose to live this way?
Jesus was not a vegetarian so I don't have to be right?
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Vegitarian's are nuts no joke. I was one from 14-21 I did eat eggs and dairy.

Just an FYI to parents of teenage girls claiming to be or wanting to be vegirarian it's the early signs of an eating disorder you should probably seek counselling for them ASAP before it becomes a full blown one.

I didn't bing or purge and wasn't anorexic however being a vegitarian was more about a control issue with food then any crap I spotted at the time.

Getting back to my claim of sign of an eating disorder to girls that I was friends with the claimed to be vegitarian's as well were actually anorexic they used vegitarianism to to hide the disorder from there parents as to why the didn't eat at the same times as them etc. You can now find a good number of studdies the link vegetarianism with anorexia.
 
I don't eat meat, haven't since i was a child. Its not a way of life for me. My body just cannot accept or process meat.

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rambleJ535 said:
I get most of my protein from dairy and protein shakes.

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I would think you would eat a lot of Soy.. Do you like that stuff? I think it is okay, but all the time wood suck.
 
I'm a little hurt bro that you asked me to FB friend you and we've been friends for about 6 months now. My updates are epic and you haven't noticed :(
 
Soy is NOT healthy, just saying

And good vegan sources of protein are, beans (hummus), quinoa, veggies, pea protein shakes (whey is not vegan), oatmeal, nuts and seeds.
And you don't have to consume a lot of protein in order to build muscle.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Vegitarian's are nuts no joke. I was one from 14-21 I did eat eggs and dairy.

Just an FYI to parents of teenage girls claiming to be or wanting to be vegirarian it's the early signs of an eating disorder you should probably seek counselling for them ASAP before it becomes a full blown one.

I didn't bing or purge and wasn't anorexic however being a vegitarian was more about a control issue with food then any crap I spotted at the time.

Getting back to my claim of sign of an eating disorder to girls that I was friends with the claimed to be vegitarian's as well were actually anorexic they used vegitarianism to to hide the disorder from there parents as to why the didn't eat at the same times as them etc. You can now find a good number of studdies the link vegetarianism with anorexia.
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Many of the young women I met who want to become vegetarians (not vegans) wanted to do so because of compassion for animals.
Very few women become vegetarians or vegans for weight issues, or at least the ones I've met, heard of or saw.
where are these studies?!

I've met as many meat eater who are nuts.
 
blueta2 said:
Many of the young women I met who want to become vegetarians (not vegans) wanted to do so because of compassion for animals.
Very few women become vegetarians or vegans for weight issues, or at least the ones I've met, heard of or saw.
where are these studies?!

I've met as many meat eater who are nuts.
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Rule # 1 in life people are nuts
Rule #2 in life rule number one applies to you too :)

Eating Disorders: The Dark Side of Vegetarianism? | Psychology Today.

Compassion for animals is a great cover who's going to question it and not dig deeper right? Like I said it's a gateway to a possible eating disorder not in all but in many. I am also talking about young woman 12-19.

Articles On The Connection Between Eating Disorders and Vegetarianism

Bas, M., Karabudak, E., & Kiziltan, G. (2005). Vegetarianism and eating disorders: Association between eating attitudes and other psychological factors among Turkish adolescents. Appetite, 44(3), 309-315.

Hormes, J. M., Catanese, D., Bauer, R, & Rozin, P. (2006). Links between meat avoidance, negative eating attitudes, and disordered eating behaviors. Poster session presented at the annual meeting of the American Psychological Association.

Klopp, S. A., Heiss, C. J., & Smith, H. S. (2003). Self-reported vegetarianism may be a marker for college women at risk for disordered eating. Journal of the American Dietetic Association, 103(6), 745-747.

Lindeman, M., Stark, K., & Latvala, K. (2000). Vegetarianism and eating-disordered thinking. Eating Disorders, 8(2), 157-165.

Lindeman, M. (2002). The state of mind of vegetarians: Psychological well-being or distress. Ecology of Food and Nutrition, 41, 75-86.

Martins, Y.., Pliner, P., & O'Connoer, R. (1999). Restrained eating among vegetarians" Does a vegetarian eating style mask concerns about weight? Appetite, 32, 145-154.

Neumark-Sztainer, D., Story, M., Resnick, M., & Blum, R. (1997). Adolescent vegetarians. A behavioral profile of a school-based population in Minnesota. Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, 151(8), 833-838.

O'Connor, M. A., Touyz, S. W., Dunn, S. M., & Beumont, P. J. (1987). Vegetarianism in anorexia nervosa? A review of 116 consecutive cases. The Medical Journal of Australia, 147(11-12), 540-542.

Robinson-O'Brian, R., Perry, C. L.,Wall, M. M., Story, M., & Neumark-Sztainer, D. (2009). Adolescent and young adult vegetarianism: Better dietary intake and weight outcomes but increased risk of disordered eating behaviors. Journal of the American Dietetic Association, 109, 648-655.

Worsley, A., & Skrzypiec, G. (1997). Teenage vegetarianism: Beauty or the beast? Nutrition Research, 17(3), 391-404.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Vegitarian's are nuts no joke. I was one from 14-21 I did eat eggs and dairy.

Just an FYI to parents of teenage girls claiming to be or wanting to be vegirarian it's the early signs of an eating disorder you should probably seek counselling for them ASAP before it becomes a full blown one.

I didn't bing or purge and wasn't anorexic however being a vegitarian was more about a control issue with food then any crap I spotted at the time.

Getting back to my claim of sign of an eating disorder to girls that I was friends with the claimed to be vegitarian's as well were actually anorexic they used vegitarianism to to hide the disorder from there parents as to why the didn't eat at the same times as them etc. You can now find a good number of studdies the link vegetarianism with anorexia.
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Thats such bullshit! lol

I havent eatin meat or fish in well over 8 years and I dont eat eggs (if its in something baked i dont really mind) and i dont drink milk though i do like cheese and whey protein.
I dont think not eating meat make you possibly have an eating disorder.
its like a guy that snapped and kills wifes blaiming steroids for it. its bullshit and not right. its on the person not the crowd (eg. vegatarian or steroid users)
and I should note im the biggst (most muscular) of my family that i know of (big european family) so i prove day by day meat is un needed. even for bodybuilding.
 
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lartinos said:
I would think you would eat a lot of Soy.. Do you like that stuff? I think it is okay, but all the time wood suck.
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soesent tqake anymore time to cook or make then if you wheremaking "normal" dishes.
I cook almostevery day . and get told regularly i make resturant quality food all thetime, even by peopele that eat meat.
theres mroe to food then meat.
i didnt think so long ago.now i cant understand how somany can still eat that shit, but to each his own.
 
lartinos said:
Do you eat eggs? Why do you choose to live this way?
Jesus was not a vegetarian so I don't have to be right?
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I dont eat eggs, but if ther ein some food or bakedgoods i dont really mind. (i just dont eat them, GF hates them too)

Jesus?
who cares, Jesus used cannabis oil in his ointments and used many other healing (phycoactive) herbs and did many other things people like to ignore due to politics and control. so its unvalid.....lol and then swapped out the ointments for win and made it only for "baptisums"and of just some oil. not acually an aointment like it was once used.
now you drink the blood . i mean you have to go to cherch right, might as well have a drink too? anyway back to my point:

(eg. he was anointing sick, old and poor people, did you know that was a big NO NO back then.) these anointments from the cherches/preasts where for the "rich" and people of status from the preasts, not just anyone could be annointed. but jesus felt they all should. i mean his name = "the anointed one" .
His storys are soo smeard by greed and time that the book is prity worthless of truth from his words atlest. but the Idea in ther eis still fairly good and nice to pass on, just wish they didnt take soo much scripts out. imena even now a coupel ave been found o contradict all the added BD to the bible. coule you imagin if even another handfull of pages from jesuswrightings where found? may god riots! lol




anyway I dont eatmena beauce i think its un neesed.
I think its wrogne of your aware its uneeed.
I have no intrists in eating dead flesh, its dosent make me hungry at all, if anything sick.
The only thing i miss is BACON........
 
j_p said:
I dont eat eggs, but if ther ein some food or bakedgoods i dont really mind. (i just dont eat them, GF hates them too)

Jesus?
who cares, Jesus used cannabis oil in his ointments and used many other healing (phycoactive) herbs and did many other things people like to ignore due to politics and control. so its unvalid.....lol and then swapped out the ointments for win and made it only for "baptisums"and of just some oil. not acually an aointment like it was once used.
now you drink the blood . i mean you have to go to cherch right, might as well have a drink too? anyway back to my point:

(eg. he was anointing sick, old and poor people, did you know that was a big NO NO back then.) these anointments from the cherches/preasts where for the "rich" and people of status from the preasts, not just anyone could be annointed. but jesus felt they all should. i mean his name = "the anointed one" .
His storys are soo smeard by greed and time that the book is prity worthless of truth from his words atlest. but the Idea in ther eis still fairly good and nice to pass on, just wish they didnt take soo much scripts out. imena even now a coupel ave been found o contradict all the added BD to the bible. coule you imagin if even another handfull of pages from jesuswrightings where found? may god riots! lol




anyway I dont eatmena beauce i think its un neesed.
I think its wrogne of your aware its uneeed.
I have no intrists in eating dead flesh, its dosent make me hungry at all, if anything sick.
The only thing i miss is BACON........
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Jesus was just a joke to foolio's that get bent out of shape on here and don't realize it.
Wait... why don't you eat eggs? That was the real reason I started this thread. I am confused.. because the animals are abused? I really do not know the exact reasons people decide not to eat eggs!
 
blueta2 said:
Soy is NOT healthy, just saying

And good vegan sources of protein are, beans (hummus), quinoa, veggies, pea protein shakes (whey is not vegan), oatmeal, nuts and seeds.
And you don't have to consume a lot of protein in order to build muscle.
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I agree with this. It's actually pretty funny when people find out that I don't eat meat. They just assume with how big I am, that I live off of meat and protein.
 
Lots of people just can't eat eggs for whatever digestive reasons. Maybe they don't like the way the chickens are treated. Maybe they think of chicken embryos when they eat eggs. Lol.
 
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lartinos said:
Jesus was just a joke to foolio's that get bent out of shape on here and don't realize it.
Wait... why don't you eat eggs? That was the real reason I started this thread. I am confused.. because the animals are abused? I really do not know the exact reasons people decide not to eat eggs!
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Reminds me of chicken abortions! :evil:
fuckign nasty man. scramble up some embryo and chicken placenta MMMM UMMMM TASTY! :taco:
 
rambleJ535 said:
I agree with this. It's actually pretty funny when people find out that I don't eat meat. They just assume with how big I am, that I live off of meat and protein.
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same here! lol i had this guy staart laughing with me thininkg im making a joke, then when im like im surious he laughed harder lol. then it clicked in i think lol.,
i said we dotat alllook like where about to die , you need to know how to eat.
 
j_p said:
Reminds me of chicken abortions! :evil:
fuckign nasty man. scramble up some embryo and chicken placenta MMMM UMMMM TASTY! :taco:
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Okay, it's a point of view about food. My fiance for example says she thinks eggs are gross... unless they are hardboiled, lol.
Eating eggs raw does sounds gross, but cooked they are great to me.
But to each his own. I have a little better understanding about vegetarians now.
But would you feed your kid meat? Maybe I am over thinking this, lol. No such thing :)
 
So not even the vegetarians are going to mention The China Study? apparently animal protein causes all the cancer in the world for the most part basically...

Oh also all the grain that's used to feed animals for slaughter, would be enough to feed all the starving people in the world too

Personally, the more I've thought it over I think its fuckin gross to eat meat for the most part, and there's a harsh reality of what actually happens to animals to support our ridiculous amount of consumption... I feel cindy on the moral reasons, I think animals are cool as fuck I don't want anything on earth to suffer if there's no reason, and I don't think anyone "needs" to eat meat...

I mean why are we so much better than animals that we can raise them just to slaughter em and eat em... what if an alien race came to earth and thought humans were a bunch of dumb fuk cows and decided they were goin to give us the shittiest living conditions possible just so we would grow healthy enough for them to eat us, wouldn't be very cool at all

TOTW Lart!
 
bigpokey said:
So not even the vegetarians are going to mention The China Study? apparently animal protein causes all the cancer in the world for the most part basically...

Oh also all the grain that's used to feed animals for slaughter, would be enough to feed all the starving people in the world too

Personally, the more I've thought it over I think its fuckin gross to eat meat for the most part, and there's a harsh reality of what actually happens to animals to support our ridiculous amount of consumption... I feel cindy on the moral reasons, I think animals are cool as fuck I don't want anything on earth to suffer if there's no reason, and I don't think anyone "needs" to eat meat...

I mean why are we so much better than animals that we can raise them just to slaughter em and eat em... what if an alien race came to earth and thought humans were a bunch of dumb fuk cows and decided they were goin to give us the shittiest living conditions possible just so we would grow healthy enough for them to eat us, wouldn't be very cool at all

TOTW Lart!
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Marry me!!!!! :rose:

Love the way you think
 
bigpokey said:
So not even the vegetarians are going to mention The China Study? apparently animal protein causes all the cancer in the world for the most part basically...

Oh also all the grain that's used to feed animals for slaughter, would be enough to feed all the starving people in the world too

Personally, the more I've thought it over I think its fuckin gross to eat meat for the most part, and there's a harsh reality of what actually happens to animals to support our ridiculous amount of consumption... I feel cindy on the moral reasons, I think animals are cool as fuck I don't want anything on earth to suffer if there's no reason, and I don't think anyone "needs" to eat meat...

I mean why are we so much better than animals that we can raise them just to slaughter em and eat em... what if an alien race came to earth and thought humans were a bunch of dumb fuk cows and decided they were goin to give us the shittiest living conditions possible just so we would grow healthy enough for them to eat us, wouldn't be very cool at all

TOTW Lart!
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awww!

what a faggot
 
Bigpokey and others there is grass feed beef chicken etc. If things are farmed in the orginal manner without grain free range etc the meat is much better for you. This meat will actually impove your cholestrol levels etc.

Heres a great article :
The Truth About Saturated Fat
by John Meadows, CSCS, CISSN

With the possible exception of cholesterol, there has never been a more misunderstood facet of nutrition than saturated fat.

You've heard it all a million times: "Don't eat any saturated fat, it will clog up your arteries," or, "It will give you heart disease," and of course, "You'll become grossly obese and be shipped off to audition for the Biggest Loser."

Well, I'm here to tell you that you've been misled, misinformed, and downright manipulated by the media, medical organizations, and "health authorities" alike.

Thankfully for us all, this veil of dietary ignorance is starting to lift. Recently, popular health guru and one time anti-saturated fat zealot Dr. Andrew Weil admitted that he was wrong in his judgment of the effects of saturated fats on health, while also acknowledging the role that excess carb intake, particularly refined carbs, have on degenerative disease in America.

He was convinced, as were many others, in part by an analysis that combined the results of 21 studies published in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition this year. It found that, "Saturated fat was not associated with an increased risk of coronary heart disease, stroke or coronary vascular disease."

There are many reasons — not to mention considerable scientific evidence — why you should consume reasonable amounts of saturated fat, but as a bodybuilder, I'm going to share the ones that are most compelling to me.

Now please note, I'm not going to suggest you consume pounds of butter or eat three pounds of fatty ground beef every day. What I am suggesting is that saturated fats are healthy and helpful if included in a balanced, sensible diet.

First, let's talk terminology:

Saturated — "Saturated fat" means that all available carbon atoms are occupied by a hydrogen atom. You can see this in the picture on the right. The important thing to take away from this is that unlike unsaturated fats, saturated fats are highly stable, and not likely to turn into free radicals or go rancid when exposed to heat, oxygen, or light.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what you should be cooking with — yes, saturated fats, like grass-fed butter and virgin coconut oil.

Hydrogenated — The term "hydrogenated" literally means they're blasting the chemical structure of the fat with extra hydrogen to bond to the carbon atom. This makes the fat solid at room temperature, and is essentially a man-made way to "create" a saturated fat.

This chemical process wreaks physiological havoc, as trans fats are essentially poisonous to the body. At the cellular level, trans fats replace saturated fat in the cell membrane, and sometimes the essential fatty acids as well. When this occurs, HDL goes down, and Lp(a) goes up, thereby increasing the risk of heart disease.

Short, Medium, and Long Chain — You should also be aware that there are short, medium, long chain, and very long chain fatty acid versions of fat. You'll hear more about the benefits of each below.

Short Chain Fatty Acids: These fats have 4 to 6 carbon atoms and they're always saturated fats. You'll find these types of fats in butterfat from cows and goats, and these fats are excellent. They're antimicrobial, and serve as great sources of energy as they're broken down quite readily. Instead of needing bile salts to emulsify them, they absorb directly from the small intestine to the liver for a quick conversion to energy.

Shown on the right is butyric acid, a short chain fat with 4 carbon atoms. A good source would be butterfat.

Medium Chain Fatty Acids: These fats have 8 to 12 carbon atoms and are found mostly in tropical oils like coconut oil, and in butterfat. There are numerous benefits associated with regular consumption of these fats as well, as they're anti-viral and anti-microbial. They also serve as a very efficient fuel source, as your body breaks these down very easily in the liver by way of the small intestine as described above.

Shown on the right is lauric acid, a medium chain fat with 12 carbon atoms. Some sources include coconut oil and breastmilk.

Long Chain Fatty Acids: These fats have from 14 to 18 carbon atoms. Examples are monounsaturated fats like olive oil, polyunsaturated fats like GLA, and then a saturated fat like stearic acid that's found in beef tallow.

There are reasons to like these saturated fats, too. In Sally Fallon's book, Nourishing Traditions, she talks about how stearic acid and palmitic acid are the preferred foods for the heart, which would explain why the fat that surrounds the heart is so highly saturated to begin with. In times of stress, your heart uses this fat.

Shown on the right is stearic acid, a long chain fat with 18 carbon atoms. Some sources include beef, cocoa butter, and chocolate.

Very Long Chain Fatty Acids: These fats have from 20-24 carbon atoms. Most of these fats are unsaturated like EPA and DHA. Since these are not saturated, we won't discuss this type any further.

So now that we have a basic understanding of the different chemical structure of fats, let's talk more about the benefits, and relate it back to the above versions of saturated fats.


6 Key Benefits of Saturated Fats

• Saturated fats positively affect hormonal function. To be more specific, free Testosterone levels tend to be higher in those who include saturated fats in their diet. Free Testosterone should be a big deal to you, as it helps with muscle growth, tissue repair, immune system strength, and your sexual function.

Low-fat diets also increase Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin levels (SHBG). SHBG is a protein that grabs or binds to Testosterone, effectively making less free Testosterone available for your body. In my experience in working with athletes with low Testosterone levels, diets rich in saturated fats are the best way to deliver increased strength and size by natural means.

• Saturated fats help your tissues retain omega-3 fatty acids better and help convert omega-3 to its final usable form (DHA). We've all heard about the wonderful benefits of omega-3 fatty acids on our cardiovascular system. What if I told you there was a way to retain omega-3 better in your tissues? In her book "Know Your Fats," author Mary Enig describes how to do it.

Enig and others say that EFAs like fish oil are indeed good for you, but that you don't need as much when you eat appreciable amounts of saturated fats in your diet. Though your tissues can retain the valuable omega-3's better when saturated fat levels are up to snuff, it's still a good idea to eat wild-caught sources of salmon, or take high quality fish oil caps like Flameout.

Bottom line, there's no need to go crazy with it like some out there are suggesting.

What about plant forms of omega-3 like flax seed oil? The EPA/DHA Institute says that between 10-15% of the omega-3 (alpha-linolenic acid) converts to its usable form, DHA. This means that for every gram of fish oil you'd get from say, salmon, you'd need 6 grams from flax seed oil. But here's the good news if you like plant sources like flax: saturated fats help your body perform this conversion better!

One additional note: Research has shown that excess omega-6 will inhibit this conversion — so lay off the corn oil, and other omega 6-laden "dead" oil. It's crap.

• Saturated fats strengthen our immune system. Although we're not tiny infants all our lives, we can still learn a lot from breastfeeding mothers out there. What's special about breast milk is that it has a lot of lauric acid in it. Lauric acid is a saturated fat of the medium chain type discussed earlier and is noteworthy for its ability to strengthen the immune system, which is why babies fed breast milk often have stronger immune systems.

Lauric acid is found in large quantities in coconut oil, another largely medium chain saturated fat, and for this reason I advise people use virgin coconut oil in their diets year-round. Be sure to not use a refined product that's been bleached, deodorized, or put through any of the other chemical processes. Get the non-refined virgin type.

The lauric acid that's in coconut oil has repeatedly been shown to exert anti-microbial effects and to reduce inflammatory immune system activity, including the ability to strengthen the immune system for HIV-positive patients. Be sure when buying coconut milk to get the full fat version to realize all the benefits!

Furthermore, those short chain fatty acids described above have excellent antimicrobial properties, meaning they fight bad bacteria in our guts and protect us from viruses. This is another reason why I love grass-fed butter; the butyric acid in it is short chain, and thus possesses these aforementioned benefits. My favorite way to use grass-fed butter is to put it on Ezekiel (sprouted grain) bread, on sweet potatoes, and on veggies.

• Saturated fats strengthen the liver. The liver takes a beating every day thanks to all the toxins we eat, drink, and breathe in. There have been many animal studies demonstrating that beef tallow (beef fat) protects against alcohol induced liver injury. Coconut oil also protects the liver, as does palm oil and cocoa butter.

On the other side, diets high in polyunsaturated fat (mostly omega 6-laden oil) has the opposite effect, creating even more stress on the liver.

• Animal fats contain fat-soluble vitamins and allow for their uptake. Those familiar with the types of diets I recommend will know that I'm a huge believer in fat-soluble vitamins.

If you eat a few carrots thinking you're going to get enough Vitamin A, you're wrong. With the exception that this type of Vitamin A is really a carotene that needs to be converted to active Vitamin A, there's no fat to help with its absorption. Now let's say you eat some beef liver: tons of vitamin A, and there's saturated and monounsaturated fat in it to help make it more bio-available.

How about egg yolks? When you throw away the egg yolk, you're throwing away 245 IUs of Vitamin A, 18 IUs of Vitamin D, and the healthy fat to help it absorb properly. So what you're really throwing away is the nutrient density of the food.

• Saturated fats help your cholesterol profile and can help you live longer. If you replace carbs in your diet with saturated fat, you can expect the following:

Lower triglyceride levels — When you eat carbs, it should serve as workout fuel, or as muscle glycogen replenishment. If you eat an excess of carbs, your liver converts them to fat (triglycerides), and then returns them right into the bloodstream. By keeping carbs lower, you avoid this.

Increased HDL levels — Lower fat diets tend to lower cholesterol, but it comes at a cost. It also lowers the good stuff — HDL — and increases triglycerides, since a larger part of the diet is made up of carbs. Noted nutritional researcher Jeff Volek has many published studies confirming this.

Increased size of LDL particles — Considerable research supports that the larger particles are not as atherogenic as the smaller pattern "B" particles, the ones that can cause problems down the road.

Research dating back to 1997 has shown that saturated fat can slightly increase LDL, but it also enlarges the particles. Jeff Volek's research demonstrated a 10% reduction in smaller particles, and this was with people increasing their fat consumption and decreasing their carb consumption.

Saturated fats make up at least 50% of cell membranes — What you look like on the outside is heavily influenced by what's going on inside, especially at a cellular level. You don't want too much saturated or unsaturated fat; you need a blend to have perfectly functioning cells transmitting messages in and out. Excluding saturated fats from your diet will have an impact on the cell. I'm going to keep this one simple and leave it at that.


Sample Saturated Fat-Friendly Diet

Before I get to the sample diet I created for you, I want to address the physiological fact that your body can create saturated fat out of carbohydrates as needed.

While this is true if you consume a lot of carbs, it's not so effective if you don't. I'm hoping you already understand that constantly pounding your body with excess carbs results in high insulin levels to manage blood glucose, which has been linked to nearly every degenerative disease known to humanity.

That said, here's a sample diet for you to better understand what kind, how much, and when you should be ingesting saturated fats.

The following example could work for a 200-pound hard training male athlete:

Meal 1 — 6 whole eggs scrambled in virgin coconut oil, served with 1 cup spinach

You get the fat-soluble nutrient density of the yolk noted above, plus the medium chain fats from cooking in coconut oil that will serve as an easy energy source and a potent immune system strengthener.

With the spinach, you get additional Vitamin A, since it will convert easily from carotenes to Retinol from eating the saturated fat in the eggs. If the chickens are truly free range (pastured) and have spent time in the sun, you'll also get much more Vitamin D. Free range eggs also have significantly more Vitamin E than standard eggs.

Meal 2 (Pre-workout) — Protein Shake with Almond Butter, 1 cup oats, 2 pieces of Ezekiel toast with 2 teaspoons of grass-fed butter

The saturated fat in this meal lies primarily in the grass-fed butter. (The Vitamin A in butter is also one of the most bioavailable sources available.) The saturated fat (and the monounsaturated) also serves another purpose — you don't want to have a massive insulin spike and then subsequent crash before a workout. The fat will slow down the entry of glucose into the bloodstream and provide a more stable supply of energy.


Post Workout

Meal 3A (Post-workout) — Protein shake with 1-cup strawberries and 1 medium-sized sweet potato

I try to keep fats (all fats) low in this meal, as I now WANT rapid entry of glucose into my bloodstream to facilitate protein synthesis and glycogen storage. Fats will slow down this process.

Meal 3B (Post-workout for extreme fat loss) — Protein shake with 2 tablespoons natural peanut butter and 3 tablespoons raw organic coconut, 4 oz. grass-fed beef liver

For those on extreme weight loss regimens, I often change this meal to all protein and fat. I do this myself for 3-4 weeks of the year as a contest approaches. You're getting saturated fat through the coconut (medium chain fats again, very efficient sources of energy) and your body doesn't even need to use bile acids to break it down. The grass-fed beef liver is the golden part of this meal, and contains many nutrients including fat-soluble vitamins packaged with the fat to help absorption.

Meal 4 — 8 oz. of Grass-fed ground beef with 1/2-cup raw fresh pineapple

The key source of saturated fat here is the grass-fed ground beef. Along with the saturated fat, you get tons of heme iron — the form of iron your body prefers — plus B Vitamins, and a host of other nutrients. I should mention that there's quite a bit of monounsaturated fat in beef fat, about 49%.

Meal 5 — 2 cups of raw whole milk, whey and casein blend, and 2 tablespoons of natural peanut butter

Raw milk is awesome. You get a wallop of digestive enzymes like lactase, which is why those who are lactose intolerant can usually stomach raw milk just fine.

Here's something that should interest you: When raw milk is heated to 165 degrees or higher and pasteurization is complete, the enzyme phosphotase is destroyed. This enzyme is critical for proper absorption of minerals including calcium.

What does that have to do with saturated fat? The foods that have fat and protein built in together, like grass-fed beef and raw milk, ALWAYS offer extremely high levels of other nutrients, and better absorption of nutrients. When we eat what nature intended, without adulterating the food or throwing away the yolk, etc., we're always better off.

Meal 6 — 3 whole eggs covered with 2 teaspoons of red palm oil, 4 oz. ground turkey thigh, and a large salad with 2 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil

Red palm oil is about half saturated and half monounsaturated fat and loaded with Vitamin A and E. Percentage wise, there's not a ton of Vitamin E, but since this oil contains all different versions of Vitamin E, your body absorbs and uses it better than any other source.

Also, turkey thigh is a bit fattier then the usual 99% lean turkey you often see. I'll share this with you: I have many competitive bodybuilders eat a LOT of ground turkey thigh from Whole Foods while dieting. It's very similar to what you see in beef in terms of monounsaturated and saturated fat percentage.


Wrapping Up

A diet that will help get you leaner, help get you healthier, and provide you with much-needed energy to pound through tough workouts? All thanks to healthy amounts of saturated fat in the diet.
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lartinos said:
Okay, it's a point of view about food. My fiance for example says she thinks eggs are gross... unless they are hardboiled, lol.
Eating eggs raw does sounds gross, but cooked they are great to me.
But to each his own. I have a little better understanding about vegetarians now.
But would you feed your kid meat? Maybe I am over thinking this, lol. No such thing :)
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I wouldent force them to not eatmeat. but i woudent be coockign it. andf if they dont eat meat im makign sure they get there protein in other ways.
I would ofcourse explaine my vew on why i dotn eat it, and yah hopfully they feel the same way when there old nuff to understand. if not. to each there own.
 
j_p said:
I wouldent force them to not eatmeat. but i woudent be coockign it. andf if they dont eat meat im makign sure they get there protein in other ways.
I would ofcourse explaine my vew on why i dotn eat it, and yah hopfully they feel the same way when there old nuff to understand. if not. to each there own.
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I agree with everything you said, except maybe the part about about you hoping they don't eat meat. Seems like you may force that value on them a little bit.
That would be wrong, because it really is inconsequential whether they eat meat or not. You did say they can eat meat or not at the end to your credit, I would personally flip out if someone gave me a hard time eating meat at all though.
I am glad I asked the question and thanks for answering.
I know I was reaching a little here in the last part, I just felt like you would look down upon a meat eater kid a little.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Bigpokey and others there is grass feed beef chicken etc. If things are farmed in the orginal manner without grain free range etc the meat is much better for you. This meat will actually impove your cholestrol levels etc.

Heres a great article :
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so vegetarians should switch to a saturated fat diet to improve their cholesterol huh?
 
bigpokey said:
Oh ya great fukn idear I can already smell the litter box in the bathroom getting all steamed up while im takin a shower.... love cat turd saunas!
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The box is in another room and my house doesn't smell, it's super clean. But with this answer, I take my marriage proposal back and give it back to PDaddy
 
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