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DJ_UFO said:
The President you love so much doesn't even care about what the soldiers are going through over there for his greedy cause. He is pathetic and the United States is no safer from terrorists...fool
But hey...I'm glad all those deaths gave him some jokes at our soldiers expense!
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Bush's Iraq WMDs joke backfires
The president could be seen bending over to peer at the floor of the Oval Office
US President George W Bush has sparked a political row by making a joke about the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
At a black-tie dinner for journalists, Mr Bush narrated a slide show poking fun at himself and other members of his administration.
One pictured Mr Bush looking under a piece of furniture in the Oval Office, at which the president remarked: "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere."
After another one, showing him scouring the corner of a room, Mr Bush said: "No, no weapons over there," he said.
And as a third picture, this time showing him leaning over, appeared on the screen the president was heard to say: "Maybe under here?"
If George Bush thinks his deceptive rationale for going to war is a laughing matter, then he's even more out of touch than we thought
The joke about the fruitless search for Iraqi WMDs so far, Washington's prime justification for the US-led invasion, has been branded as tasteless and ill-judged.
'Undermining' sacrifices
Mr Bush's election challenger Senator John Kerry described the president's attitude as "stunningly cavalier".
"If George Bush thinks his deceptive rationale for going to war is a laughing matter, then he's even more out of touch than we thought," he said in a written statement.
"Unfortunately for the president, this is not a joke."
Mr Kerry's statement also included a comment from Iraq war veteran Brad Owens, who said: "War is the single most serious event that a president or government can carry its people into.
"This cheapens the sacrifice that American soldiers and their families are dealing with every single day."
GoldenDelicious
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that there is long standing resentment against the USA and britain is unquestionable. cultures tend to resent the nations that opress them. the middle east has been thwarted or invaded a few times by western powers, in modern times starting with, say, the liberation of Greece from turkish rule, to the splitting up of kurdistan by a lowly british clerk (which is kind of inconvenient for the kurds, who became a triplicate of persecuted minorities, and were gassed/killed whenever it was convenient), to thie...interesting...circumstances behind gulf war 1, to the utterly false motives behind gulf war 2. so yes, id say that the arbitrary division of an ancient, culturally complex region is a source of, shall we say...extreme irritation? for some.75th said:
as for malaysia and the phillipines, well, waht can i say...my mind is capable of understanding the simple notion that the causes of terrorism are complex and diverse...as opposed to many americans, who think that the absurd "war on terrorism" is actually a meaningful sort of initiative. how the hell do you declare war on terrorism, anyway? i mean, its terrorism. thats like declaring war on annoyingness. its retarded. get a grip, ffs. malaysia and the phillipines are going through what theyre going through for their own (differing) reasons...but for the purposes of this post, lets just say that theyre different from iraq, and afghanistan. you should be able to come to grips with that one. hopefully.
citizens living in poverty often do blame their rulers. im sure many many iraqis cursed saddam for living the high life while they couldnt buy beans to feed their families. your insinuation, which is, of course, that the people living in various countries do not blame their leaders and instead choose to blame the USA, and therefore are deserving of whatever comes to them at the hands of their new, more tolerant opressor (the usa) is invalidated by the simple fact that most common iraqis have asked the USA to leave, but it will not. despite their lack of ability to oust hussein (for whatever reason, whether it is lack of courage or whatever), once he was displaced they requested taht the USA leave, meaning that they desire self rule.75th said:
your argument goes along the lines of "if we dont kill them, theyll just die anyway" which is perverse. just becasue saddam had the iraquis by the balls doesnt mean the US has the right the grab them by the balls in his stead, albiet with a softer grip.
crude enough for you? i hope so. jarheads like crudity, i have heard.
hey buddy, iraqis at present experience 2 hours of electricity a day, 80% unemployment, and a security situation (read: you can be taken hostage or killed anytime, anywhere, by iraqis OR americans) that makes it a no go zone from every nation in the world.75th said:
previously, they were akin to places like jordan, which are nice places to live, work, and raise a family.
now, im not a fussy guy, but being able to have my aircon on at night and not having to worry about having my eyes drilled out so that my family can pay a ransom is kinda on my "must have" list, you know
what? you want to blame saddam? again? just like you blamed him for the WMDs?75th said:
bush: you have WMDs, let out inspectors in
saddam: ok, they can go whereever they want
inspectors: there are no wmds
saddam: see? told you
bush: bullshit, you do so, youre hiding them, give them up or we'll invade
inspectors: um, no, they dont have any
sadam: we dont have any, we told you
inspectors: yes, really, they dont!
bush: fuck you, youre both lying, we're invading anyway
*head inspector 'commits suicide'*
now, i dont want to get all murder mystery with you but...i smell a rat
so. what does that have to do with the iraqi people? are you trying to tell me that becasue some people did something bad, its ok for you to do something bad too? hm?75th said:
try to make a point that doesnt make you look like a stoned teenager, would you
mate, ever watch sesame street? im the count. complete with that cool laugh and everything75th said:
ahahahaha-haoperationtruth.org = you being pwned. badly.75th said:
i never called anyone anything (except djufo. i called him idiot, moron, dickhead...more than once, even. i liked it too) expecially not nazi, or redneck. very great fools, perhaps, but not the things you just said. dont put words in my mouth mate.75th said:
dont worry about perfectworld, mate, hes asleep or something just now. worry about me. im the guy chatting to you.75th said:
amnesty international report = 100 000 iraqis dead as a direct result of invasion. kinf of hard to argue with a headline like that, dont you think75th said:
youre right. but what did you sacrifice those lives for? ...retard75th said:
...though i get the feeling that the last comment was too subtle for you. alas...
i shouldnt chat on the internet when im tipsy, i knew this was a mistake
emotional argument? emotional argument? there are a hundred thousand blackened, rotting corpses out there as a result of american action. i say some people got pretty fucking emotional about it, but i wouldnt call it an emotional argument!75th said:
his views are his own, and the way he presents his ideas is less important than their substance...though it seems that youre one of those out there that gets taken in by the smoke and mirrors, and wouldnt understand that. fool.75th said:
GoldenDelicious said:
The situation in the asian countries goes to prove what I was saying...that people in the middle east arent pissed at us because of lines on a map...they are pissed at us because that is what they have been taught by their leaders (supposedly our partners) from day 1. The Saudi kingdom spends billions of dollars every year financing these fanatical mosques in exchange for bin Laden and men like him giving their country a pass, considering Saudi Arabia is obviously the greatest offender to Islam in their eyes.
Nice try putting words in my mouth. I never said nor implied that any folks in the middle east deserve any sort of violent retrobution at the hands of the US because of the actions of their leaders.
As for Iraqis asking us to leave, I would think that if you did the research you would see that a majority agree with what we are doing there. Ill admit it may not be a vast majority, but a majority nonetheless.
Never said or implied that. Again, a tired attempt to spin the debate.
Jarheads are Marines. I was in the army. Nice gross generalization by the way. I assume that you wouldnt object to saying that arabs are all terrorists, or french are all cowards either, considering you just made that type of remark.
They also have experienced new openings of hospitals, schools, a new government, etc. Using your logic, a Canadian can look at the situation in Compton and apply that to the entire US.
Nice short story, but point out where in my original post did I mention WMDs.
And Im not sure if you remember, but all during the 90s our weapons inspectors were expelled numerous times, Iraqi scientists were not allowed to be interviewed, and pretty much everything we asked Saddam to cooperate with...well, he didnt. Im starting to think you are drunk.
Again, you selectively listen to soldiers who only agree with your point of view. Not very mature.
Come back and debate when you are more coherant.
and dude for the sake of argument why don't you add all of the Sadaam Clinton exchanges that went on for his 8 years? How many times did Sadaam kick the inspectors out and play games with the UN? Give me a break if you don't think he was hiding something, he was making a mockery out of the UN and every nation involved, guess your perfectly cool with that
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