ANy models / people who have ripped abs year round here?

[Moderate_THIS]

it should not be taken alone without an anabolic.

blah. a low dose in the 25 mcg/day range will optimize your metabolism/ protein turnover.... it can actually be anabolic

 

[rjl296]

Hmmm...I think for me alot of it has to do with genetics so I don't know how much help I can be. If you want to get shredded, tuna is your new best friend. At least it was for me. You can eat 8 cans of tuna a day, a couple protien shakes and some whole wheat bread and you'll be fucking diced. If you're looking for a cycle to make you dense and shredded then tren/winny/masteron is the ticket. If you're trying to put on some serious size then I'd go with test/winny/eq with a moderate dose of ana or letro, letro being better for staying dry but has more sides.

your fat

 

[JoNeS]

How hard is it to maintain your abs with out the use of gear. Lets say after you do a cutting cycle. How hard is it to maintain....assuming you keep your diet and cardio in check.

 

[jubei]

not hard at all in my experience.

 

[napoli235]

I remember when my cutter ended I ate everything in sight. pizza, brownies, ice cream, tacos, etc. After 2 1/2 months of gorging my BF went from 4.5% to 8%. I sat back and laughed, I can't get fat if I tried.

Best cutting drugs primo and var.
Although I used Primo, test, and dbol and had no bloat and still stayed ripped.

you had a almost 100% increase in bodyfat in a little over 2 months!!! what do you mean you can't get fat even if you tried??!!

 

[lartinos]

blah. a low dose in the 25 mcg/day range will optimize your metabolism/ protein turnover.... it can actually be anabolic

Proof?

 

[Moderate_THIS]

Proof?

We conclude that although healthy men are able to adapt to mild hyperthyroidism in terms of nitrogen balance, they exhibit significant and persistent changes in fat and fat-free mass as well as energy balance.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9062479

 

[slash747]

Basketball is awsome, I do it instead of cardio, and its like sprinting. Alot of full body sudden movements and bursts of speed. Ive dropped about 3% bf in 3 weeks ( for me its an accomplishment ) from doing 1 hour a week.

Test Enanthate 250 Mg Every 2 Weeks , Anavar 20 Mg For Keeping The Mass, Dieting As Fuck, Eating A Lot Of Fiber.
Cardio... Basquetball Seems To Work Most For Me, Its Fun And You Drop Bf Way Too Fast.!!!
By The Way, Eat A Ton Shit Load Of Prots, Forget About Eating More Than 3,500 Cals A Day.
Ur Good To Go

 

[lartinos]

We conclude that although healthy men are able to adapt to mild hyperthyroidism in terms of nitrogen balance, they exhibit significant and persistent changes in fat and fat-free mass as well as energy balance.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9062479

I really hope what you're saying is true..........but this statement doesn't seem to back your argument. "T3 treatment produced significant losses in both lean mass (1.5 +/- 0.3 kg) and fat mass (2.7 +/- 0.4 kg) by 6 weeks, with similar reductions in both at 9 weeks".......So the reasoning behind using an anabolic is so you won't lose fat and not lean mass.

 

[Moderate_THIS]

I really hope what you're saying is true..........but this statement doesn't seem to back your argument. "T3 treatment produced significant losses in both lean mass (1.5 +/- 0.3 kg) and fat mass (2.7 +/- 0.4 kg) by 6 weeks, with similar reductions in both at 9 weeks".......So the reasoning behind using an anabolic is so you won't lose fat and not lean mass.

yeah, after 9 weeks lean mass remained intact. This isn't really proof... unless there's a study in bodybuilders taking low dose T3 all we can do is take an educated guess.

But you can assume weight training would negate a significant portion of the lean mass lost in those 9 weeks, and perhaps with the enhanced metabolism T3 induces, this would cause better partitioning to the muscle due to increased turnover (most likely only on a real high protein diet since T3 is an indiscrimate nutrient metabolizer)