Any Dieticians here?

[the_clockwork]

have you ever looked in to kcal cycling?

i.e off days vs on days

no I usually just use steroids and eat somewhat clean.. I'm trying to stay away from juicing now and wanna cut on my own

 

[Faizakafez]

okie...

i usually cook chicken and potatoes on sunday and it last me on week..

gimmme some time

 

[javaguru]

elaborate your carb timing theories plz

Carbs first meal of the day, an hour brfore your workout, during and after. It's not complex

Here is an example.

Meal 1: Oatbran hot cereal(1/3 cup dry) 1 C Blueberries, Milk isolate shake
Meal 2: 6 oz round steak
Meal 3: Protein shake with 3 fish oil capsules
Workout: 20g BCAA mixed with 40g dextrose
Meal 4: Kraft mac(w/out butter) +Cheese with tuna and protein pudding for dessert
Meal 5: Protein shake 3 fish oil capsules and two tablespoons ground flaxseed
Meal 6: as above

The goal is to consume around 1g CHO per pound, not counting the workout shake.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Carbs first meal of the day, an hour brfore your workout, during and after. It's not complex

Here is an example.

Meal 1: Oatbran hot cereal(1/3 cup dry) 1 C Blueberries, Milk isolate shake
Meal 2: 6 oz round steak
Meal 3: Protein shake with 3 fish oil capsules
Workout: 20g BCAA mixed with 40g dextrose
Meal 4: Kraft mac(w/out butter) +Cheese with tuna and protein pudding for dessert
Meal 5: Protein shake 3 fish oil capsules and two tablespoons ground flaxseed
Meal 6: as above

The goal is to consume around 1g CHO per pound, not counting the workout shake.

so you drink your workout shake DURING the workout, instead of pounding it right after for the insulin spike that drives off cortisol? and then eat a simple carb meal after? how soon after you workout is that meal?

 

[samoth]

so you drink your workout shake DURING the workout, instead of pounding it right after for the insulin spike that drives off cortisol? and then eat a simple carb meal after? how soon after you workout is that meal?

What kind of insulin spike do you expect from some powder and milk? Try +/-60 grams of dextrose with the PWO shake.

 

[Faizakafez]

you dont need to spike insulin levels after a workout thats just bullshit!

you can do fine with a low to med gi carb!

 

[samoth]

you dont need to spike insulin levels after a workout thats just bullshit!

you can do fine with a low to med gi carb!

Reasoning?

I've heard both sides argued pretty well, but what are your reasonings here?

 

[Faizakafez]

personally i agree with you samoth as well. and unbomb

im more of pre ancestoral kinda follower if that makes sense to you.

when hunters went out and came back with their kill they didnt say hey gimme some dex?

personally i dont like swing in slin levels i get and that crash from the spike.

Back to my ancestor approach that also comes into my carb intake.. i dont eat breads or pasta since they are processed and its been shown over time humans do not process grains too well.

so my carbs come strictly from potaoes, yams, oats then brown rice

 

[javaguru]

so you drink your workout shake DURING the workout, instead of pounding it right after for the insulin spike that drives off cortisol? and then eat a simple carb meal after? how soon after you workout is that meal?

Yep, my during workout shake, I highly recommend people try it. You can use a scoop of whey isolate instead of bcaa's if you're on a budget.

Here is an article on why.
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/advanced_workout_nutrition.htm

I eat the solid meal right after my workout.

 

[javaguru]

Built like a neanderthal
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/built1.htm

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/built2.htm