another aas virgin ready to pop cherry, please critique

[double o seven]

before i go on i would like to say whats up to everybody, seeing as i'm a new guy, and to thank you guys for this awsome board and the interesting threads. i had no idea this world existed, and it's great knowing that there are others. let me start off by stating i'm 5'7'' and 178lbs at 13-15%bf, 23 years old and have been lifting for alittle over 1 year staight and 5 years total. i'm wanting to add muscle obviously, and harden up while dropping the bf. i have fina, testosterone cyp by ttokyo, ttokyo decca, and 50mg winny tabs. this is what i have in mind:

fina-75mg/eod-weeks 1-6
test-cyp-500mg/wk- weeks 1-6
decca-300mg/wk-weeks 3-6
winny-50mg/ed- weeks 3-6

i'll also be taking all the necessary precautions, cranberry extract, milk thistle, etc. i'll have nolvadex, proscar, propecia, on hand and clomid for post cycle. what would you do different if these products were your first cycle now that your more experienced.

 

[ultragainz]

not good...sorry i would do this.....and buy some ALA hit that at 1000mgs/day you can get that from online for a cheaper price from www.kilosports.com

and drink 1-2 gallons of water a day and ALA is good for the liver and good on bulking and cutting cycles

wks---winny----fina----deca----test
1-------50ed--------------400-----500
2-------50ed--------------400-----500
3-------50ed--------------400-----500
4-------50ed--------------400-----500
5-------50ed--------------400-----500
6-------50ed-------------400-----500
7------50eod------------300----500
8------------------75ed--300-----500
9------------------75ed------------500
10----------------75ed------------500
11----------------75ed------------500
12----------------75ed---------------
13----------------75eod--------------
and clomid after cycle...

 

[double o seven]

thanx ultra, i was planning on using ALA but thanx for the website. i guess i should have mentioned that i have enough of everything for a 6-8 wk cycle only.

any other comments out there?

 

[Zyglamail]

As ultra pointed out indirectly by his cycle layour, both deca and tren cause PR sides and since there is no easy/cheap/surefire way to get around it you need to be carefull if using the two together. SInce its your fist run, now wouldnt be the time to try em in unison. 6 weeks is a bit short for cyp and especially dec due to thier long half lives. Just stick around a bit longer, you got a bit more to learn before you start pokin.

 

[joconnor]

fina-75mg/eod-weeks 1-6
test-cyp-500mg/wk- weeks 1-6
decca-300mg/wk-weeks 3-6
winny-50mg/ed- weeks 3-6

i think, personally, that these types of gear are great (well, i like EQ more then deca, and you do have the fina in there as well.....being a first timer, id choose the fina or the deca, but not both. you dunno how you will react to that type of aromatizations).

the only flame i am going to give you, is that maybe you should consider running the cycle for at least 8-10 weeks, and cutting down the dosages per week. i think the above will give great results, but you as a first timer do not need that. think about this:

test cyp: 400mg/week, weeks 1-10 (at least 8 weeks, cyp will be kicking in in a few weeks before you are scheduled to end it above, why stop it when the results should be really starting to roll in)
deca: 200mg/week, weeks 1-10
winny: 50mg ED, weeks 5-10

id skip on the fina for now. save it for another cycle at another time. you forget that you really dont need that much to grow. your body will respond much better then you think. remember, eat clean, train hard, and get your sleep. best of luck to ya.

 

[doubles1]

double o i just started my cycle...what r ur goals from your cycle after its completed...

 

[enrage]

it looks like he's just wanting to add an additional 10-15 lbs while dropping his bf%. Not too unrealistic expectations if u ask me.

 

[DTOX]

Re: Re: another aas virgin ready to pop cherry, please critique

I was going to say about the same thing.

Test Cyp: 200mg/wk wk 1-8
Deca: 300mg/wk wk 1-8
Winny tabs: 40mg/day wk 5-10

I'd use the winny to end the cycle with to give the deca & test levels time to fall before hitting clomid. That way you can hit clomid wk 11 and not have to wait 2 weeks on no gear.

the only flame i am going to give you, is that maybe you should consider running the cycle for at least 8-10 weeks, and cutting down the dosages per week. i think the above will give great results, but you as a first timer do not need that. think about this:

test cyp: 400mg/week, weeks 1-10 (at least 8 weeks, cyp will be kicking in in a few weeks before you are scheduled to end it above, why stop it when the results should be really starting to roll in)
deca: 200mg/week, weeks 1-10
winny: 50mg ED, weeks 5-10

id skip on the fina for now. save it for another cycle at another time. you forget that you really dont need that much to grow. your body will respond much better then you think. remember, eat clean, train hard, and get your sleep. best of luck to ya.

 

[double o seven]

thanx bro's for all the great advice, it's definatly appreciated. and yes enrage your right, i am wanting to gain 10-15lbs while dropping bf.

if theres any more advice out there please respond

007

 

[Quadsweep]

As ultra pointed out indirectly by his cycle layour, both deca and tren cause PR sides and since there is no easy/cheap/surefire way to get around it you need to be carefull if using the two together. SInce its your fist run, now wouldnt be the time to try em in unison. 6 weeks is a bit short for cyp and especially dec due to thier long half lives. Just stick around a bit longer, you got a bit more to learn before you start pokin.

I agree with Zyg 100% Hangout a bit and learn. Your cycle is very complex especially for a newbie. Keep reading and learning and check out this old thread of mine. http://boards.elitefitness.com/foru...&highlight=i+cant+stand+this+bullshit+anymore