An article for those who approve of the death penalty

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

The reason death sentences cost more has nothing to do with the cost of appeals. All inmates appeal no matter what their sentence is. Death row inmates are isolated in individual cells. It costs more to house these inmates than it does those in general population. Since the appeals drag out the amount of time they spend on death row, it does cost more. But not by much. The extra costs are negated by the medical care required by older inmates who are not sentenced to die and those who get in fights or get sick. The financial argument is a last ditch effort on behalf of leftists to appeal to right-wing pro death penalty people. They falsely believe that money is all we care about. Fair trials and humane housing costs alot no matter how you look at it. And I don't care how much it costs, some people have to die for their crimes and that is it.

You're dead wrong here. The court costs associated with the appeals process costs more than housing the prisoner for life.

 

[cccp]

what are the chances that those "innocents" have never committed a crime before?

sounds like a quote from "natural born killers." Nobody is innocent, there is always a terrible secret in people's past, that is worth murdering for.

look at this problem from a closer, more personal point of view, say someone cuts your mom's and dad's heads off, and then rapes your wife and all of your children and then burns them alive. Wouldn't you want that person to die? Hell yeah, I would.

On the other hand, say you are being accused of a crime you didn't commit. You are sentenced to death. Is that fair? Not really.

So the problem with death penalty is not the fact that it exists, but the fact that it is not being implemented correctly.

 

[TxArmyGuy]

Here is an Assumption that I'll bet on


If you were to take away the Death Penalty More of my Texan breathren would Save the state some money buy Shooting those Sorry Sacks of Shit once they are turned loose on the streets....I've never heard a Criminal in Texas talk shit about them spending time or the consequences of repeat offenses in the state

I can only hope some of your other states will Get some Balls and tell all the Sorry Cry Baby Liberals to start treating criminals for what they are...Worthless Sacks of shit

 

[minion]

They say everyone has a twin, what if you shoot the wrong guy?

 

[Puc]

I don't see what this has to do with the death penalty.

Also, the teenagers were quite stupid to sign a confession if they really had nothing to do with the crime.

Finally, consider this:

You argue against the death penalty, I argue in favor of it. In the event that the death penalty is banned throughout the whole nation, then it is likely that criminals who are either released or escape prior to the completion of their sentence will commit further crimes and take the lives of innocent people.

In the event that the death penalty is not banned throughout the whole nation, then it is likely that a portion of executed convicts were not actually guilty of the given crime. Thus, innocent people will die as well.

So, which do you prefer?

1) Inviting the opportunity for convicted felons to roam free and injure/kill more innocent people than they normally would have if they were taking an eternal dirt nap?

or

2) Putting criminals to death while at the same time possibly executing folks who were not guilty of the given crime, but sacrificing innocent lives in the process.

It's just plain statistics.

When executing all convicted capital criminals, some innocents will be executed as well, but what are the chances that those "innocents" have never committed a crime before? Do you mean to suggest that every day a completely innocent, law-abiding family man is charged with a capital crime? LOL! Just whose lives are you trying to save?

Sacrifice the law-abiding citizen to save the petty thief who was in the wrong place at the wrong time? Give me a break!

-Warik

i love it when you try and prove things with oversimplified deduction/induction. it is easy to dismantle. you should try being more holistic in your approach.

First, putting an innocent person to death does more than harm that person. The other half of the equation is the guilty person still roaming free. Note the tendency of people who commit crimes and are NOT caught to commit crimes again. By extension, you get the possibility of more than one innocent person being harmed. Whether or not scenario 1 or 2 you list above is likely to harm more innocent people cannot be determined.

Secondly, as stated before, stupid does NOT equate to guilty. I was under the impression that since your speeding ticket incident (and started getting LAID) you had taken a more realistic view of the police. They do coerce, Warik. They are often vindictive and bitter. And, occasionally, they are racist (though i am NOT making this a racial issue). They are not benevolent protectors. They are bullies who like to drive fast and carry guns. They wish they were john Wayne. If you want an example, look at that redneck manny78. How many guns does he own? does he enjoy bullying people? does he have serious insecurities?

I have been arrested a couple of times. Thanks to lawyers and myself being smarter than the average pig, i have not been convicted. I do not plan on EVER having that happen again. In order to accomplish that, i don't break laws anymore. But, i can say from experience that the first time i was arrested, i was naive and was coerced into a confession. After that, i smartened up and denied everything every time. It was my confession that made my first case so difficult to win (there is actually a legal axiom that states that a confession with no other corroborating evidence is NOT enough for a conviction, which is why i was acquitted), and my silence that made my later incidents so easy to win. My point is, people who have been arrested before are not as likely to be coerced into a confession. It is naive people who are more likely to fall prey to these tactics.

Now, speaking of your speeding ticket, does the fact that you once were wrongly accused of speeding justify you being convicted of rape and serving 7 years in jail? does it justify your life being taken away? But fuck, warik, you did commit some crime at some point, so the system was just punishing you more for that and any other unpunished offences. Right?

You know, you are not the most pigheaded conservative i have ever encountered. I had similar arguments with a client of mine. She went so far as to say that anyone convicted of a crime was guilty of something, even if it was just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I asked her if the fact that she used her bank at 1:20, and that bank was robbed at 1:25 would justify her being convicted of bank robbery. She said yes. I asked if that would make her mad, or if she would just sit in her cell and tell herself "well shit, i was just in the wrong place at the wrong time." She told me she would accept it and serve her prison sentence because it made her a good American. I do not believe her.

 

[Puc]

btw warik is gay

 

[minion]

You've got some good points Puc.

 

[Puc]

 

[Puc]

warik=gay

i want to suck kayne's cock, though. he has a point there