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rcoury33

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Ok so im 5'10, 190, 10%, bf. i have been lifting for about 6 years now. legitimately for 4 years. i just took about 2 months out of the gym.(longest time that i can ever remember taking off) so in about a week ill start up again natural. Im thinking after about doing this cycle after 2 months or so of getting a nice base back again. i wouldn't mind being a solid 200! i really want to throw this var on top with the test to get a little leaner with a dry vascular nice cut. about 2 months ago my max was
bench-325
squat-405
DL-465
I have my first cycle laid out and am looking for further advice and opinions. Heres what i have thus far and a few questions along with it.

Week1-10 - 500mgs of test E each week. 2x1cc shots each week.(Mon&Thurs)
Week1-10 - .5mgs of Liquidex EOD
Week3-10 - Liver Support
Week3-5 - 40mg Anavar ED
Week6-7 - 50mg Anavar ED
Week8-9 - 70mg Anavar ED
Week10 - 80mg Anavar ED
14 days after last shot on week 10 start PCT
PCT - 4 weeks
50/50/25/25 clomid
Revolution PCT Black
2,000mgs Trib ED

Fish Oil, Multi, Food, and Hard Training ED!

Questions
1. Is it necessary to taper of the test /anavar for keeping quality gains and to make it easier to regain natty test?
2. Instead of 2x1cc shots on Mon & Thurs. what is you opinion of doing 1.5cc shots every 5 days?
3. Opinions on dosage of Liquidex during cycle?
4.Opinions on dosage of Anavar for Weeks 3-10?

Thanks guys.
 
8 weeks is a long time to run any oral, I would drop the var back to 6 weeks. Use n2guard for cycle support and post cycle/unleashed combo for pct and you'll avoid the nasty sides from clomid. You also need to run hcg or hcgenerate while on up until pct

you can find these products here http://needtobuildmuscle.com/store/cart.php

givethanks25 will get you 25% of thru nov
 
rcoury33 said:
Ok so im 5'10, 190, 10%, bf. i have been lifting for about 6 years now. legitimately for 4 years. i just took about 2 months out of the gym.(longest time that i can ever remember taking off) so in about a week ill start up again natural. Im thinking after about doing this cycle after 2 months or so of getting a nice base back again. i wouldn't mind being a solid 200! i really want to throw this var on top with the test to get a little leaner with a dry vascular nice cut. about 2 months ago my max was
bench-325
squat-405
DL-465
I have my first cycle laid out and am looking for further advice and opinions. Heres what i have thus far and a few questions along with it.

Week1-10 - 500mgs of test E each week. 2x1cc shots each week.(Mon&Thurs)
Week1-10 - .5mgs of Liquidex EOD
Week3-10 - Liver Support
Week3-5 - 40mg Anavar ED
Week6-7 - 50mg Anavar ED
Week8-9 - 70mg Anavar ED
Week10 - 80mg Anavar ED
14 days after last shot on week 10 start PCT
PCT - 4 weeks
50/50/25/25 clomid
Revolution PCT Black
2,000mgs Trib ED

Fish Oil, Multi, Food, and Hard Training ED!

Questions
1. Is it necessary to taper of the test /anavar for keeping quality gains and to make it easier to regain natty test?
2. Instead of 2x1cc shots on Mon & Thurs. what is you opinion of doing 1.5cc shots every 5 days?
3. Opinions on dosage of Liquidex during cycle?
4.Opinions on dosage of Anavar for Weeks 3-10?

Thanks guys.
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swap out liquidex for forma to combat estrogen
drop the var to 6 weeks. and your dosages are fine. 50-70 is ample
you can inject test every 4-5 days.. thats fine.
no you don't need to taper that won't help you recover faster.
you should run some hcg or hcgenerate during cycle to kickstart things.
and your clomid should be dropped to 12.5-25mgED... that is ample.

see my link in my sig
 
id drop the var and leave it test only for a first cycle.. it has a lot of advantages.. mainly though you will know exactly what test does to you and how you react.. it will probably be the base of all your cycles so it is best to run 1 cycle of test only and then add from there..

although what you have laid out and what others have added make a great cycle.. a great 2nd cycle imo :)
 
Yep just test for 10wks is great for a first time... you can use aromasin, arimidex, forma... forma is probably the best but any AI should be fine for that amount of test. If you do add the var, I would cut it back to the last 4-6 wks only, and drop the dose quite a bit. Alot of people overdo the orals. Why not start at a low dose and see how it works, then go up if necessary? I only use 20mg/day of most orals max these days, and I get awesome results! Start low, 30mg/day or so on var... why start at 40 if 30 or even 20mg might be sufficient? As pricey as var is, it'll save you some serious cash too! And yeah, the HCGen towards the end, unleashed/post-cycle combo is AWESOME for PCT, don't even need clomid or nolva and no sides at all!
 
My first cycle was Test-E w/ dbol front load for first 6 weeks and was awesome! I agree with everyone else here, start simple (test-e only) and see how you do. If you are that determined to use Var, go with what the good bro's above said, 6 weeks and start with a lower dose and see you how do (you can always go up if need be, if not you saved some $$). Also, start hcg at week through and go through pct, found it helped a lot with my cycle.

To put it into perspective, I gained 30lbs on my first cycle, so see how you do with something basic first.
 
stevesmi said:
swap out liquidex for forma to combat estrogen
drop the var to 6 weeks. and your dosages are fine. 50-70 is ample
you can inject test every 4-5 days.. thats fine.
no you don't need to taper that won't help you recover faster.
you should run some hcg or hcgenerate during cycle to kickstart things.
and your clomid should be dropped to 12.5-25mgED... that is ample.

see my link in my sig
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Thanks Steve,
So all of the products i mention above are already purchased. Thats is what i have for my first cycle. Im looking on further critiquing/advice about the best way to go about using what i have. A few more questions...
1. If running liquidex as my AI is HCG really that necessary? Also would .25mg EOD from the start of cycle be ok? is it necessary? Can i start like week 2-8?
2. I have 300x10mg var and was planning on spliting that up however necessary over the last 8 out of 10 week total cycle...
3. Should i inject 2wice a week i.e. monday & thursday or same amount of days apart i.e every forth or fifth day.
4. Is there a specific reasons why you recommend 12.5-25mgED of Clomid? From all others ive heard 25 or 40 or 50 ED...
Appreciate all of the advice and help!!
 
I always run hcg with cycles...keeps the nuts going! ;)
 
rcoury33 said:
Thanks Steve,
So all of the products i mention above are already purchased. Thats is what i have for my first cycle. Im looking on further critiquing/advice about the best way to go about using what i have. A few more questions...
1. If running liquidex as my AI is HCG really that necessary? absolutely. hcg goes a long way of keeping your nuts plump during cycle which results in a softer landing. always use hcg or hcgenerate during cycle.

Also would .25mg EOD from the start of cycle be ok? is it necessary? Can i start like week 2-8? you should always run adex by ear and adjust dosages. don't kill your estrogen, control it. thats why forma is such a good idea, it won't kill your estrogen and its a topical so you don't have to worry about when to take it, just follow the bottle directions.
2. I have 300x10mg var and was planning on spliting that up however necessary over the last 8 out of 10 week total cycle...
3. Should i inject 2wice a week i.e. monday & thursday or same amount of days apart i.e every forth or fifth day. like i said it doesn't matter. 2X a week is the way i run test.
4. Is there a specific reasons why you recommend 12.5-25mgED of Clomid? From all others ive heard 25 or 40 or 50 ED... yes cause you won't like the sides on 50mg clomid. clomid sides are insomnia, feeling tired, feeling bitchy, acne... its a drug and it has a tremendous half life, so you don't need 50mg a day. 12.5mg-25mg is plenty.
Appreciate all of the advice and help!!
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i realize you want to run the stuff you have on hand, typical newb thinking. but you have to cover ALL BASES during cycle and post cycle. or you will make things more difficult.

so pick up some forma from mr supps (nix the liquidex) and some hcgenerate from NTBM or hcg. you will have a much nicer cycle/post cycle.
 
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