all you americans

[GoldenDelicious]

Sorry, bro, but that was still way below the belt, even if you were kidding.

A close friend of mine just died two days ago. His liver went to the mother of one of my co-workers. You think I would go to my late friend's fiancee and tell her, "Your future husband just died due to hyponatremia, but I see who got the brain damage from it." Fuck no. And she is someone that I have known for two years. You're spouting that crap to someone that you have never met. Not only is that irresponsible of you, but downright degrading.

I seriously doubt that you have the integrity, fortitude, or courage to stand up for something that you believe in by putting yourself in harm's way. Of course, it is probably OK to you that the peons in the military, of which I was one for 13 years, should fight and die for what you believe in.

Until you have filled the shoes of a soldier, marine or sailor in combat, kindly piss off and stay away from topics that you have no knowledge about. It only serves to let the rest of us see your lack of tact, intelligence, and judgement.

Zig

uhuh. so what youre saying is that youre hypersensitive to people close to people dying because you just lost someone and it hurt your feelings. hm. uhuh. right. well, i hate to break it to you, but it was an off the cuff remark, and while i appreciate that youre a bit sensitive right now, since you were in the military for 13 years, im sure youre a tough guy and so you can nicely get over it

if you cannot limit your perception of a word/phrase/idea to the context in which it is being discussed, then i strongly suggest that you log off from the internet, the TV, and dont read any books. actually, dont even play music - because you never know, some irresponsible person that youve never ever met who doesnt know who the hell you are, may have once made some sort of recording/communication that may, potentially, perhaps, trigger your hypersensitivity to this thing called 'death' which happens every single day, and you might have to write a post about them calling them irresponsible and ot shut up.

now, as per my 'fortitude', you can "strongly doubt" whatever you like, but it wont mean a thing, because *I* "strongly doubt" that you know what youre talking about, since youve never met me .

and lastly, i dont see how filling the shoes of a marine, sailor or soldier in combat suddenly spawns the ability to think in a person. i mean, surely you couldnt be advocating the idea that a persons opinion should be taken based on what they themselves have done in the military, as opposed to the sheer weight of their argument? i mean, you wouldnt say such a thing, becasue, i mean...thats pretty dumb

 

[75th]

youre right, i wouldnt find them.

...poor bastards have probably been locked in some cave somewhere, held without charges, awaiting torture

I walked into that one.

 

[ziggyziggy]

uhuh. so what youre saying is that youre hypersensitive to people close to people dying because you just lost someone and it hurt your feelings. hm. uhuh. right. well, i hate to break it to you, but it was an off the cuff remark, and while i appreciate that youre a bit sensitive right now, since you were in the military for 13 years, im sure youre a tough guy and so you can nicely get over it

Its not my sensitivity that I'm concerned with. It was merely an example of how your remarks were the perfect demonstration of low class. Obviously, my analogy went right over your self-absorbed head.

if you cannot limit your perception of a word/phrase/idea to the context in which it is being discussed, then i strongly suggest that you log off from the internet, the TV, and dont read any books. actually, dont even play music - because you never know, some irresponsible person that youve never ever met who doesnt know who the hell you are, may have once made some sort of recording/communication that may, potentially, perhaps, trigger your hypersensitivity to this thing called 'death' which happens every single day, and you might have to write a post about them calling them irresponsible and ot shut up.

I did limit my analogy to the context of the discussion. See my comment above. Yes, death and mayhem happen every day. Unlike you, I do not go out of my way to taunt the victims and family members of those victims with the calculus of death and mayhem. Perhaps you should read your own signature and live by those words, but then again, I'm not your shrink.

now, as per my 'fortitude', you can "strongly doubt" whatever you like, but it wont mean a thing, because *I* "strongly doubt" that you know what youre talking about, since youve never met me .

The things that you type on this forum tell me everything that I need to know about you. Meeting you in person could change that, but I doubt that it would. You enjoy kicking people when they are down. That's not an accusation, but an observation based on your rants here. That says a lot about you, and the life that you choose to live. It says that you are pathetic.

and lastly, i dont see how filling the shoes of a marine, sailor or soldier in combat suddenly spawns the ability to think in a person. i mean, surely you couldnt be advocating the idea that a persons opinion should be taken based on what they themselves have done in the military, as opposed to the sheer weight of their argument? i mean, you wouldnt say such a thing, becasue, i mean...thats pretty dumb

Again, my simple statement obviously went over the top of your flat head. You regularly and consistantly degrade the men and women who have, and still do, protect your rights and freedoms, regardless of whatever country you live in. Try talking your BS to an Aussie SAS trooper, if you have the nuts to. I know what would happen, as I trained extensively with them in 1994 and 1995. Your ass would be in a sling. You know it, and I know it. Knowing this, you bring your whining ass here, where you can easily hide behind a keyboard and anonymity of the 'net.

You taunt the families of the dead and wounded because .......? Maybe you get off on it, and are jerking off to medicj's emotional responses to your out of line comments. Maybe it makes you feel like a man, when you obviously have no testicles of your own. Then again, perhaps you are a true psychopath, and wounding people emotionally just makes you feel normal. The truth of the matter is that I don't know, and really don't care, aside the pain that you cause to others.

You label Americans, with a broad brushstroke, as stupid, idiotic, totalitarian, and bloodthirsty. However, your posts show you closer to the ideology that you profess to hate, rather than above the fray, as you would like us to believe.

My point was, and still is, that you have no right to talk smack about men and women in uniform unless you have filled their shoes in harm's way, period. Now, I imagine that I can see the lightbulb, albeit a dim one, coming on in your head right now. Then again, that may be too much to hope for.

By the way, I hope that you choose option number one. But I won't be dissappointed of you choose number two.

Zig

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

DU's are great, the casualties would be worse if we did not use them, this is warfare 101.

I like cheeseburgers

 

[TimmyT]

We were trained that DU munitions were not dangerous unless they're flying at us or a vehicle hit with them is still burning. Inhaling DU laced smoke was a no-no. Cancer risk and what-not.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I do not reply to the original post due to the big amount of bullshit and ignorance posted by an ignorant parasite. Don't waste your time fellas, and somebody ban this clown.

 

[jnevin]

DU's are great, the casualties would be worse if we did not use them, this is warfare 101.

I like cheeseburgers

Make up your fucking mind bro. Do you like cheeseburgers or tacos? Pull your head out of your ass and don't forget to diversify your funds, bitches.

 

[spongebob]

...that supported the war, or bush, or the bullshit that has been spun, or did at some stage support/believe in any of it, i was wondering, what do you guys think about the use of depleted uranium throughout iraq?

i mean, sorry to be that annoying jimmy the cricket voice (with an aussie accent) and bring up those things that some people here like to forget (like you know, weapons of mass destruction, osama bin laden, the association between osama and saddam that wasnt, the association between 911 and iraq that wasnt, the UN not sanctioning the war, the head of the iraq weapons inspectors "committing suicide"...how convenient..., americans calling questioners unpatriotic, freedom fries, "shock and awe" killing thousands of cowering iraqis in their homes, military protection of the oil ministry but no other ministry, abu ghraib, guatanamo bay, all those "enemy combatants" held without trial, bush winning the second election by 1%...how convenient...during the first election where electronic voting machines are used and are not subject to public scrutiny...how convenient....where evidence of vote manipulation was rife....anyway, all those things that a right thinking person would think would lead pretty instantly to impeachment and imprisonment, but apart from all that, what i want to talk about today is...

...depleted uranium. i mean, given that the world is scared shitless of terrorists detonating a "dirty bomb" in some western city, and given that its just after the 60th anniversary of atomic weapons being dropped in hiroshima/nagasaki, im curious to know what all you people who accept the war think about your military sprinkling hundreds of tonnes of depleted uranium throughout iraq, which in itself is a weapon of mass destruction, poisoning the land, air, water, people of iraq (who are giving birth to nicely deformed children as we speak, and suffering ungodly rates of previously insignificant cancers - side effects that are shared by the very soldiers using the ammunition, which is rather at odds with the "support the troops" idiots who think that public sympathy/empathy for soldiers is what is needed, rather than withdrawal from an immoral, unneccessary war (though that particular phrase has lost its poignancy through sheer repetition)

so come on. would all the pro-war, pro-"democracy", pro-"shut up GD you fucking foreigner", pro-"here is freedom, so shut up and put on your veil" people, who are so noisy in other threads, like to post their opinions on the costs, benefits, and morality of using such weapons in the context of the iraq and afghan wars?

...or will your shame, and silence, let this thread sink to the bottom of the site, until a thread comes up where its suitable for you to chime in, en masse, and type in slogans and "pwned" while you backslap each other on how wonderful you are

hm?

by the way, australia is up to its neck in iraq and afghanistan at the moment, so keep it civil...comerades

i havent noticed a problem with it.

 

[HiDnGoD]

pro bush.. anti bush..WTF are you guys talking about???

I'm pro-bush, but only a heart or landing strip. I am anti-bush if it is too long or unruly.

 

[Spartacus]

I already sunk his battleship.

I captured his queen long ago