all you americans

[75th]

so youre saying that protecting american soldiers is the most important thing, even in an unneccessary, illegul, unjustifiable war, where american servicemembers' presence alone is instigating the very retaliation that puts them in harms way, even when the price of protecting said illegal incursion is the commital of a moral, and war crime in the form of dispersing hundreds of tonnes of a radioactive material taht will poison the people and land for centuries?

Thats exactly what I said. Any honest person would agree that, in their minds, the lives of their fellow countrymen is more important than the lives of a Swede, a Fin, an Iraqi, anything. Theres no shame in that.

wow. how dare those iraqis breathe american air in iraq?

Way to take everything way out of context.

the difference between you and i is that i would save the aussie soldiers life by keeping them at home, and not sending them off to fight an unneccessary war for a reason no one seems to be able to come up with.

Cop out. Thats the one thing that annoys me about folks with no argument. You ask them a simple question like; "In the current situation, what would you do?" And they reply with; "I would go back 20 years and never have started this war!"

And besides, I wouldnt have sent anybody anywhere. I dont know how many times I have to remind you that although I fought in it, I never supported the war.

nice pun, even though the obvious design of my previous statement was to illustrate the increased significance of islamic extremism by correllating my exposure to it through main news media, with its prevalence/significance in the world.

If you gauge what is happening in the world by what is reported by the major media outlets, were in bad shape. Using that logic, I can safely say there is zero crime, whatsoever, in Australia, simply because I dont hear about any of it here in the US.

a sane, logical person would see that the previously moderate, right thinking cleric has become radicalised, and ask themselves "why has this happened. what are the factors and influences that have instigated the change?" and through a logic examination of the issue at hand, will hopefully come to some sort of understanding of the root cause of the change.

When did you say this was some previously "moderate, right thinking cleric?"

and further, who are you to say "If we didnt retaliate, its because Allah saw fit to protect the Muslim world, so feel free to suicide bomb whoever you want." are you an expert in middle eastern culture? what makes you think you understand these people well enough to make a statement like that? good thing youre not presumptuous!

I dont know, I have studied it. And had the chance to speak with a lot of folks firsthand during my tenure in Afghanistan and Iraq. Obviously Im not naive enough to think that this applies all across the board, but its still worth thinking about.

exactly. so then, for your next mental exercise, have a think about why they might feel compelled to end their lives.

Because they know nothing else than what we fed them by corrupt rulers dedicated to keep them contained in a 13th century way of thinking. Shit, even prominent Muslim clerics in the UK have come out and said, "Guys, its about time we join the 21st century."

That compells them...along with the promise of shagging a bunch of teenie-boppers after they die.

and besides, a journal from some captured guy who was willing to confess, versus the steady flow of people scattering their intestines all over the place in fiery explosion on a near daily basis isnt terribly persuasive, when we are talking about motivation

This guy was in charge of recruitment over 3 different countries. I would assume he knows a little bit more regarding the final details than some 16 year old who gets suckered into blowing themselves up with the promise of fresh poontang in the afterlife.

it isnt an argument in itself - i was just pointing out how perverse it is to argue that the daily bombing in iraq against americans in iraq is not a 'terrorist' act, and despite the massively increased incidence of such attacks, you suggest that people are safer (sickening use of categorisation), based on a literal rather than reality based interpretation of the data, when the incidents are happening under the very banner of a 'war on terror', which is itself undermined by the same arguments you are making to somehow discredit what i said earlier

"Massively increased incidence?" LOL you should really think before you type. Compare the number of attacks on US troops over the past 6 months with the attacks during the 6 months prior.

excuse me? a minority? military estimates put the number at about 40 000. other estimates are 400 000. youre trying to say taht there are 40 000 - 400 000 iforeigners waging war in iraq, while a 'minority' of iraqis participates? ho-ly shit.

Yes, believe it or not a minority of Iraqi civilians support the resistance. Just look at any of the recent polls. Or the fact that the recent elections were a dramatic success.

And I hate to break it to you, but 40,000 people out of 50,000,000 is indeed a minority. And a big part of the 40,000 is made up from folks filtering into Iraq from neighboring countries.

75th are you mad?

Theres a fine line between genious and madness.

well if we agree to disagree, and you dont come into my thread, there wont be any hot air, will there

Touche.

 

[Lestat]

Godel:

that last al queda tape had a masked gunman speaking with an austrailian accent!

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Godel:

that last al queda tape had a masked gunman speaking with an austrailian accent!

so? you can get satellite TV in those mountains. some clever jihadi has been watching Nieghbours and Crocodile Dundee. cheeky scamming mofos

 

[Lestat]

so? you can get satellite TV in those mountains. some clever jihadi has been watching Nieghbours and Crocodile Dundee. cheeky scamming mofos

what you could see of the dude's skin looked white bro

 

[GoldenDelicious]

what you could see of the dude's skin looked white bro

make up. has to be make up

 

[jackangel]

some of you are unjustly maligning gd by leveling dubious characterizations.

of course, he does have his axe to grind and his fools to taunt, but he's not as bad as you all think.