I have been on osta 25mg/day, GW 10mg/day, DAA 3mg/day, and formastanzol 10pumps/day for 16 days. Really felt the osta kick at about day 11. I originally planned on running osta at 12.5 with GW at 10mg for a 4 week cut but decided to up the osta because I had plenty on hand. Now I'm thinking of running the osta all the way through 8 weeks and adding epistane week 4-8. GW will be done after 4 weeks.
Started of at 5'9" 235 at about 22% bf. Now I'm down to 227 and strength is through the roof (PR on bench last week 245 x 14). Diet is 2500kcal with 175-200g protein per day. Paleo diet.
What do you think of the osta/epi stack after week 3? Should I take a break from the forma so I can run it in PCT? My goal is to cut BF while maintaining or increasing strength.
I have HCG, HCGenerate, Forged PCT, epi, test and lots of formastanzol (thank BOGO offer!) on hand. Waiting for 15% BF to run test.
Thanks for your help!
osta normally kicks in about 10-14 days after you start so thats right on... your body fat is much too high for epi... run osta at 25 mg through the 8 weeks... continue forma through 8 weeks as well... i recommend adding forged burner or you can go more aggressive and add albuterol... get that body fat down to at least 15 before using any ph or aas... your making good progress now... follow my recommendations and more progress will come!
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I'm sure I'm over thinking on this but I just got my SARMS and am curious on the dosing. I understand using Osta at 25mg a day and S-4 at 25mg/split but where my problem is the mg to ml on the syringe. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Uniquemicals and S-4 and Osta 30ml 50mg/ml. By the way excellent service by them as well.
I've decided to run the triple stack. Anyone else having issues with unique's website? I'd like to place an order.
the website is working just fine bro... i just checked it out... go directly to it... www.uniquemicals.com...
Your right, I was typing it in wrong.
Hey Dylan what are your thoughts on females running the triple stack?
My wife is very interested in the weight loss and endurance properties of GW. She's a runner and heavy into crossfit as well.
I was gonna put my wife on the triple stack as well. Or maybe just gw an mk. Her ultimate goal is fat loss. She just does zumba or cardio 3-4 days a week, no weights. She has no interest in living "our" lifestyle. Just wants fat loss without stims. Not much data on females and sarms out there.
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Dylan I'm kinda confused and excuse me if this sounds stupid but I hear you recommending mini pct with Sarms, but I also hear you say osta is good to run WITH pct doesn't Sarms suppress you? If so it wouldn't make sense to run anything that suppresses you with pct as your trying to recover. Would it not interfere with the recovery after cycle ?
Gw going to do anything for strength? I know endurance it affects and should probly preserve muscle mass while dropping bodyfat. But im a powerlifter at the end the day and want to use it as a bridge but don't wanna lose power
Gw going to do anything for strength? I know endurance it affects and should probly preserve muscle mass while dropping bodyfat. But im a powerlifter at the end the day and want to use it as a bridge but don't wanna lose power
Im currently on osta this would be added. I avoid s4 after I was night blinded.
Good thread
I've a question, hoping someone can answer. I've seen people reference potential for mild AIs on cycle or post cycle for Osta. I've also seen people talk about natural test boosters post-cycle. This confused me, as I'm under the impression that natty test boosters such as dhea don't have scientific backing in their efficacy. So my question is three-fold:
(1) what natural test boosters are effective and recommended pct for osta (2) what type of AIs or pct products are ideal on cycle and/or post cycle and (3) is a mega dose of trans resveratrol effective or even ideal for any or all of these concerns?
-Dax
Re-posting this from the "all about sarms" thread, hoping somebody can help me out:
Cool. Thanks for the feedback. To make sure I've got you straight here, you'd use "forma stanzol" and "HCgenerate" on cycle, and "forged post cycle", "unleashed", and "bridge" during a short PCT? Any good recommended website I can quickly get this stuff? I'm on day 10 of Osta at 20mg and was originally just gonna use trans-resveratrol
hey dylan what dosage would you recommend for an osta/s4 cycle in efforts to repair joint damage?
yes this is correct bro... for hcgenerate, forged, unleashed and bridge, you can get them all at needtobuildmuscle.com... use coupon code needto139 for 15% off and free shipping...
forma stanzol can be purchased at mrsupps.com...
you can also bump you osta dose to 25mg bro...
Can somebody tell me how to dose gw on the oral syringe for 5 and 5mg dose, please?
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its half a ml man... go to the .5 mark on the syringe
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Bro i feel like a retard! I was n a hurry today tryn to get off work and go train! Sorry guys!
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osta 25 mg a day
s4 50 mg a day...
run it 8 weeks...
thanks man. Should I split up the dosage? like morning and early afternoon for both?
Dylan, do you think I could get away with running Osta for 10-12 weeks ? and do the triple stack for only 4 weeks during those 10 weeks
so it'll be like this
1-4 oastarine solo
5-8 triple sarms stack
9-10 or 9-12 oastarine solo
9-12 HCGenerate
and then 3 week PCT of unleashed/post cycle combo
yes but the way you have laid out is not ideal bro... you can run up to 12 weeks but do not exceed that... also, i would run s4 at least 6-8 weeks... if you want to run gw for only 4 then that would be fine but you would be selling yourself very short only running s4 for 4 weeks and i don't recommend that...
run it like this...
1-12 ostarine 25 mg a day
5-12 s4 50 mg a day
5-9 gw 501516
1-12 hcgenerate
pct
13-15 unleashed/post cycle combo
13-15 bridge (doulbe dosed)
thanks man, I was wondering how much weight did you gain from your 12 week run that you logged it here ? and how was you bodyfat% before and after ?
i gained 4 lbs. and bodyfat went from 6.2% to 5.8%.... it was an 8 week stack... i ran osta 4 weeks in my pct and then ran the stack for 8 weeks...
that's pretty impressive, keep on killing it bro
Hi I'm currently running s4 @ 50mg day and gw@10mg. I'm experiencing slightly numb and tingly hands especially the right one. This normal?
that sounds to me like some kind of nerve problem... are you having any sort of joint pain? are you taking anything else? i have never heard of that happening due to sarm usage...
Well I'm on letro and dos at the mo. but never had an issue wiv them before. Maybe a combination of all compounds?
Dylan,
Is there a coupon code for Unique?
Thanx, ordering now.
when you say dos, are you referring to dostinex?
Yeh. Sorry
one of the common side effects of dostinex is tingling and numbness in the hands bro... you may not have had it before but it is a side effect from it...
Thanks Dylan. That's put my mind at ease.![]()
If I did two 4 week cycles back to back, how long should I wait in-between the cycles?
Got a question. Down the road I'm considering giving my rat some S4 because I'm intrigued by S4's cutting properties. However, my rat already has some bad vision problems and wear glasses. Would it be best to just give my rat an alternate SARM when the time comes or are my fears unfounded?
Thanks again Dylan I'm probably going to start my sarms stack soon, keep up the great advice.
Got a question. Down the road I'm considering giving my rat some S4 because I'm intrigued by S4's cutting properties. However, my rat already has some bad vision problems and wear glasses. Would it be best to just give my rat an alternate SARM when the time comes or are my fears unfounded?
OK I have done some reading and PM's between Dylan and my self here is my plan for my rat please let me know what you think
(1 YEAR PLAN)
8 weeks:
[FONT="]mk - 25 mg a day[/FONT]
[FONT="]S4 - [/FONT][FONT="]50 mg a day[/FONT] 25am/25pm
[FONT="]creatine, HCGenerate [/FONT]
4 WEEKS PCT
[FONT="]forged PCT ,Bridge and Unleashed[/FONT]
[FONT="]4 WEEKS GW[/FONT]
[FONT="]10MG Per day 5am 5pm[/FONT]
[FONT="]Repet this 3X= 1 year[/FONT]
[FONT="]Am I missing anything and does this sound ok?[/FONT]
Has S-4 ever caused anybody's skin to itch. I have run it 2 times and each time after about a week my skin will start to itch most notable on the arms and legs. Just curious if anybody else has ever had this happen and if so how to stop it.
im on my second week of s4 and third week of osta i was fine on osta but when i was done with my first week of s4 at 50mg i started seeing sides yellow tint here and there not bad the annoying part is if im driving outside in daylight and walk in my decently lit gym I litterally cannot see shit for a couple seconds the contrast from light to less light the sides causes me to have trouble adjusting from light and dark but it only takes 3 min for my eyes to adjust and i can see everything fine after another side is dark related when im in a dark room and theres light from outside the door i cannot see it if i look directly at it only from my peripherals ? that being said im alot leaner im off my epistane cycle i gained a little fat but after my being on osta and s4 im alot leaner and somehow stronger than when i was on epistane of course i think i was a non responder i took that shit at 80mg the last 5th and 6th week and really didnt feel shit. osta is great s4 is great, the small side effects are the price of being built haha
Hey Dylan, few questions for ya!
I've been on osta/s4 for a few days now and I've noticed a little bit of trouble sleeping, is that normal? I've also been REALLY hot most days even when it's like 50 degrees out
Also I just want to double check to make sure this cycle doesn't require one of the aforementioned mini pct's.
Thanks bro
what time are you dosing them? i've never had anyone complain of this and never really heard of it, and i also have not heard of people having high body temp either... are you taking anything else with them?
i have no idea how long you are running your cycle so i can't really tell you whether yours in particular needs a mini pct... i will say that any sarms cycle over 5 weeks requires a 3 week mini pct but personally, even on a 4 week cycle i would do a 2 week mini anyway... but i would never run one of these less than 6 weeks either...
It's usually around 9 and 2 or if I wake up later in the day I'll just dose it 5 hours apart. Sleep aptitude doesn't vary with dose time, however. Taking creatine mono, fish oil, multi, and white flood pwo
doing osta at 25mg/day and s4 at 50mg planning on that for 8 weeks
yes this is correct bro... for hcgenerate, forged, unleashed and bridge, you can get them all at needtobuildmuscle.com... use coupon code needto139 for 15% off and free shipping...
forma stanzol can be purchased at mrsupps.com...
you can also bump you osta dose to 25mg bro...
Is there any risk of annihilating SHBG here? Purchasing these right and wondering, is the forma stanzol and unleashed really necessary on top of the hcgenerate on cycle and forged post cycle+ bridge after the cycle?
If this is definitely ideal say no more and I'll pick up the rest. I just feel cautious because this is the first cycle I've done
the only one that is not absolutely necessary is the forma but i prefer to run it alongside on here... unleashed is part of the mini pct along with forged and bridge and that is all necessary for proper recovery...
i would never recommend anything that was going to be harmful or not provide max results bro...
Understood. I'll get it all, thanks
Hey dylan, are there any chances of getting gyno even if your prone to gyno, from running sarms only.
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Dylan,
Got my order on the way. Going to do an 8 week run. I am looking to basically recomp/slight cut. I'm getting ready for a big BJJ tourney and I want to stay strong and cut a few pounds, maybe 3-4 pounds of BF and put on 1-2 pounds of muscle. My plan is to run Osta at 25 and S-4 at 50 for the whole run. PCT is in place. My question is what would you eat in relation to maintenance. I was thinking about 200-300 below maintenance with a re-feed day once a week (usually a big steak and fries with salad and bread). What do you think?
So i apologize for asking something that may have been asked, just 25 pages on a iphone is alot to scroll. I recently decided to do another sarm run instead of doing my first real aas cycle. Im going to follow your epic triple stack with the gw at 10mg am-pm and run this for 8 weeks. Ad well as proper pct matching yours plus bridge and forma. My question comes in at what dosage/ period should my wife run osta,s-4, gw at?? if even all 3. Iv seen qts thread and others yet i really appreciate your advice and.knowledge and hope asking this doesn't show negligence or laziness at finding a answer. Thanks again Dylan!
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Thoughts on this cut schedule...???
OEP = Oxyelite Pro
ECY = ephedrine/yohimbine hcl/caffeine
Osta, at 20mg daily, once in the AM
Start date: June 1
End date: August 24
Week 2-8 Osta
Week 1-2 OEP
Week 3-4 ECY
Week 5-6 OEP
Week 7-8 ECY
Week 9-10 OEP
Week 11-12 ECY
Week 8-12 Erase/DAA 3g
Stats:
6'0" // 235 lbs // 20.8% BF
Been reading my head off - your thread is gold my friend.
Keep up the good work.
Hey Dylan
Can I chase Sarms with a protein shake? Or us there a time limit b4 I can eat after taking it.
Hey Dylan already got the stack sorted outjust a question about dieting, I function pretty well on low cals, BMR is around 1800 and I burn prob 700 through lifting and cardio. The diet I have set up puts me at 1,700 cals with a 60/25/15 macro split p/c/f, 250 g protein (6'1 180 @13%). Will I not be maximizing results by cutting at a 800 cal deficit? Muscle loss? I wanna cut as much body fat as possible on the 2 month stack but I'm not in a position where I have extra muscle to spare, thanks in advance buddy
thx again, I'll add some carbs and more protein or maybe cut down the cardio I do about an hour which burns 450 calsi would keep your deficit around 500 if your worried about a lot of muscle loss... there will be slight muscle loss but it shouldn't bee too bad...
My wifes 5'8 170lbs and. 16% bf. She's really trying to lose weight and cut up still. Were going to both for n2slin as well.
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