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rustilldown
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Agreed those stacks look something fierce , thx for the recommendations .! I guess I'll leave it at that so we dont derail the thread too much!
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Agreed those stacks look something fierce , thx for the recommendations .! I guess I'll leave it at that so we dont derail the thread too much!
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1armedscissor
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Thanks Dylan, I was just curious about running a triple stack of Sarms like that and then Beast afterwards. That's why I asked you! You seem very knowledgable about this and I wasn't sure if I missed something while reading this thread, yes all of it!! Yet very informative, so much I'm not sure what I'd like to try first. Sarms or some Beast? Thanks again for the advice.
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you can ask me any questions anytime bro... im here to help as much as i can...
have you ran any cycles in the past or would this be your first... give me your stats and i can recommend for what to do first...
you can ask me any questions anytime bro... im here to help as much as i can...
have you ran any cycles in the past or would this be your first... give me your stats and i can recommend for what to do first...
more steel
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I just started osta and GW yesterday. Call me sick but I kinda like the nastiness of the taste of osta haha. And it kinda heats up your mouth. Anyway, I just had a couple questions on when an how to take them.
I know to dose GW am/pm(5/5) and osta am only(12.5), but does it matter if it's with food or on an empty stomach? Should I swallow right away or is there any absorption in the mouth? About how many hours apart do I dose the GW? (I'm guessing 6-8 but just want verification)
And just to be sure I'm not killin my body here's what I'm taking with the sarms:
Forged burner
Glycobol+test booster (until need2slin comes back in stock)
Alpha-T2
My goal is fat loss. These products are ok to stack, right? My only concern would be stress on the thyroid from forged burner+alpha-T2 combo.
Thanks!
I know to dose GW am/pm(5/5) and osta am only(12.5), but does it matter if it's with food or on an empty stomach? Should I swallow right away or is there any absorption in the mouth? About how many hours apart do I dose the GW? (I'm guessing 6-8 but just want verification)
And just to be sure I'm not killin my body here's what I'm taking with the sarms:
Forged burner
Glycobol+test booster (until need2slin comes back in stock)
Alpha-T2
My goal is fat loss. These products are ok to stack, right? My only concern would be stress on the thyroid from forged burner+alpha-T2 combo.
Thanks!
1armedscissor
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Alright my stats are: Age 30, Height 5'10", Weight 210, BF% 18. I have been working out for since high school but seriously for the past 2-3 years. Just got my diet cleaned up as well. I have Beast on hand but plan on shedding some fat to lower my BF% before I do that, but I've been reading about the Sarms lately and I'm really interested about them. My goals would be to get some lean muscle gains, shed fat without losing muscle or strength. Thanks for any help and advice.
1armedscissor
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^^^sorry forgot to mention this would be my first cycle. Also what if I stacked the sarms first followed by pct then did a Beast cycle?
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lolll yeah your fucking sick man! LOLL i don't like the taste but I don't think its as bad as everyone makes it out to be...
it doesn't matter if you take it with food or not... just swallow it right down... you can up your osta to 25 mg though..
gw has a very long half life so 8-12 hours is fine... i prefer 8 but either is fine...
i think glycobol is a waste...
forged burner, hcgenerate, need2slin when its back and if you wanted to throw in some albuterol would be an awesome stack...
lolll yeah your fucking sick man! LOLL i don't like the taste but I don't think its as bad as everyone makes it out to be...
it doesn't matter if you take it with food or not... just swallow it right down... you can up your osta to 25 mg though..
gw has a very long half life so 8-12 hours is fine... i prefer 8 but either is fine...
i think glycobol is a waste...
forged burner, hcgenerate, need2slin when its back and if you wanted to throw in some albuterol would be an awesome stack...
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you most definitely should run SARMS first and get your body fat down... do the 8 week stack of it and then a 3 week mini...
Beast is NOT a good option for a first cycle my friend... you are much better off going with helladrol as a first cycle... save beast for a later time.. I will set you up an excellent helladrol cycle when the time comes...
In the meantime... I would run the sarms stack and possibly add albuterol to it...
you most definitely should run SARMS first and get your body fat down... do the 8 week stack of it and then a 3 week mini...
Beast is NOT a good option for a first cycle my friend... you are much better off going with helladrol as a first cycle... save beast for a later time.. I will set you up an excellent helladrol cycle when the time comes...
In the meantime... I would run the sarms stack and possibly add albuterol to it...
1armedscissor
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Sweet thanks Dylan, also about the SARMS should I run a double stack or all three?
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After running all 3 SARMS with HCGenerate then run a mini pct of Unleashed and.....? Also 3 or 4 weeks for pct?
more steel
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Yeah glycobol seems kinda gimmicky but I have it so I'm going to use it for now. It seems like AI has decent products.
I'm using the cycle to drop bf before a run a test cycle. Would 25mg osta be suppressive it run 4 weeks? I didn't want to go from one suppressive cycle to another.
I was reading up on albuterol and it seems good. Do you think it is the most effective fat burner? I have a bunch of fat burners on hand but if albuterol is king I will use that as a base for stims and add fat burners from there from there.
Thanks for the help bro!
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Im not the biggest fan of AI products but if its working for you, by all means, use it...
25 at 4 weeks should not produce supression... when you start to get in the 6-8 week range there is a much better chance... of course there could be slight suppression at 4 weeks but highly doubtful...
I don't necessarily think abluterol is the most effective fat burner, but definitely has better qualities... clen will be more effective more rapidly but its much more dangerous and it will ruin your cardio... albuterol is much safer and it will enhance cardio... I would definitely recommend it bro...
Im not the biggest fan of AI products but if its working for you, by all means, use it...
25 at 4 weeks should not produce supression... when you start to get in the 6-8 week range there is a much better chance... of course there could be slight suppression at 4 weeks but highly doubtful...
I don't necessarily think abluterol is the most effective fat burner, but definitely has better qualities... clen will be more effective more rapidly but its much more dangerous and it will ruin your cardio... albuterol is much safer and it will enhance cardio... I would definitely recommend it bro...
more steel
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Ok thanks! I don't want to turn this into a fat burner convo so I might pm you in the next day or so about fat burners
TheSVPdeal
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You wanna burn fat? Try and duplicate one of the dude's workouts.
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unleashed, forged pct and bridge ( i normally do bridge double dosed) 3 weeks my friend...
unleashed, forged pct and bridge ( i normally do bridge double dosed) 3 weeks my friend...
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My chihuahuas finished week one of Ostarine and gw50... Haven't changed diet etc... just waned to see what happens with only the addition of products. Anyway, figured they would drop a few lbs... instead they stepped on the scale and gained 5lbs... Anyone else gain to start? Must be water weight? I do notice a feeling of well being for them and maybe a slight cardio increase. Just wondering if anyone has insight into the weight gain instead of weigt loss. Thanks
FY... work out 5AM... chihuahuas take supplements 45 mins before working out on an empty stomach. I read somewhere maybe this should be taken at night... thoughts?
My chihuahuas finished week one of Ostarine and gw50... Haven't changed diet etc... just waned to see what happens with only the addition of products. Anyway, figured they would drop a few lbs... instead they stepped on the scale and gained 5lbs... Anyone else gain to start? Must be water weight? I do notice a feeling of well being for them and maybe a slight cardio increase. Just wondering if anyone has insight into the weight gain instead of weigt loss. Thanks
FY... work out 5AM... chihuahuas take supplements 45 mins before working out on an empty stomach. I read somewhere maybe this should be taken at night... thoughts?
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there is definitely not water being retained on this... osta is taken in the a.m... not sure where or who said that it was taken in the p.m. but that is not accurate at all...
what is your diet like? you said you didn't change it, but what is it like? it is quite strange for you to be gaining weight on this and something is definitely not adding up...
there is definitely not water being retained on this... osta is taken in the a.m... not sure where or who said that it was taken in the p.m. but that is not accurate at all...
what is your diet like? you said you didn't change it, but what is it like? it is quite strange for you to be gaining weight on this and something is definitely not adding up...
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Could it be muscle glycogen retention? Muscles feel any fuller? Look fuller? How's the mirror look?
Could it be muscle glycogen retention? Muscles feel any fuller? Look fuller? How's the mirror look?
rustilldown
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I swear something had been making me retain water too. Osta s4 hcg generate, forma stanzol, unleashed / post cycle. I feel like I'm on hgh no word of a lie. A little Softer looking but strong and energetic, sleeping like a baby, and little to no feeling in my hands... Sometimes sore wrists. It's fucked and my skin has become soft as fuck. (no homo) i am trying to figure out what is causing this.
I have had a ton of stress lately and have been under eating and over exerting at work.. Possibly cortisol? I've read a few cases of unleashed causing water retention
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I have had a ton of stress lately and have been under eating and over exerting at work.. Possibly cortisol? I've read a few cases of unleashed causing water retention
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that wouldn't be it from just a week on what he's using... im not sure what is causing it unless there's something else thats being used or something to do with his diet... im wondering about sodium intake maybe?
that wouldn't be it from just a week on what he's using... im not sure what is causing it unless there's something else thats being used or something to do with his diet... im wondering about sodium intake maybe?
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im not sure, i have never seen anyone retain water running sarms... how long have you been running it... one thing is that you don't need to be running all these test boosters on this stack... how many consecutive weeks have you been running test boosters? i noticed that because I used daa for so long that it started to cause some water retention on my sarms stack and as soon as i stopped it, it all went away...
im not sure, i have never seen anyone retain water running sarms... how long have you been running it... one thing is that you don't need to be running all these test boosters on this stack... how many consecutive weeks have you been running test boosters? i noticed that because I used daa for so long that it started to cause some water retention on my sarms stack and as soon as i stopped it, it all went away...
rustilldown
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Hmm ok well I have been for quite a while since I was running sarms during pct I'd say 8 weeks I've been running the test boosters. Hcgenerate probably 10. I'll lay off all 3 for a bit and see what happens
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yeah bro, thats overkill...
yeah bro, thats overkill...
rustilldown
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Thx as always
I was thinking all that Tribulus and shit may be overkill now I feel beyond recovered .. I'll keep ya posted 'Ride it like you stole it!!
Thx as always
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yes bro... more or too long is not always better!
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I just finished an 8 week s4/osta stack, I'd guess I put on about 5 lbs of mass, with bodyfat staying the same (I was following a semi-dirty bulk diet). FWIW, I didn't start to REALLY start to see results until I kicked the s4 up to 75mg/day (keeping the osta at 25mg/day).
I just finished an 8 week s4/osta stack, I'd guess I put on about 5 lbs of mass, with bodyfat staying the same (I was following a semi-dirty bulk diet). FWIW, I didn't start to REALLY start to see results until I kicked the s4 up to 75mg/day (keeping the osta at 25mg/day).
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I eat pretty clean... no sugar or processed foods... Don't count calories or anything, but I eat mainly fruits and vegetables and lean meats. Morning is a protein shake and fruit until lunch (a modified IF diet) Drink a little, but again nothing has chnaged in my diet to prompt a weight gain... I'm not taking anything else (regular vitamin supps etc). Someone mentioned sodium intake and look and feel... I seem to be a bit more vascular in the mirror, but not really bloated (as I know that feeling) muscle definition seems to be a bit better, but still really early to tell... heading on week 2 so I will see how it goes. I don't live by the scale, mirro is more important, just surprised so far at a weight gain.
I eat pretty clean... no sugar or processed foods... Don't count calories or anything, but I eat mainly fruits and vegetables and lean meats. Morning is a protein shake and fruit until lunch (a modified IF diet) Drink a little, but again nothing has chnaged in my diet to prompt a weight gain... I'm not taking anything else (regular vitamin supps etc). Someone mentioned sodium intake and look and feel... I seem to be a bit more vascular in the mirror, but not really bloated (as I know that feeling) muscle definition seems to be a bit better, but still really early to tell... heading on week 2 so I will see how it goes. I don't live by the scale, mirro is more important, just surprised so far at a weight gain.
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thats pretty damn good gains especially considering you were doing a dirty bulk... s4 is more noticeable the leaner that you are... it definitely has its leaning properties to it and will help with leaning out, but if you are already lean when you use it, you will notice its muscle hardening a lot more... some people can barely handle 50 mg and others get up to 100... it just varies from perso to person...
thats pretty damn good gains especially considering you were doing a dirty bulk... s4 is more noticeable the leaner that you are... it definitely has its leaning properties to it and will help with leaning out, but if you are already lean when you use it, you will notice its muscle hardening a lot more... some people can barely handle 50 mg and others get up to 100... it just varies from perso to person...
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the mirror is the main thing... definitely keep an eye on your sodium intake... being that its only week 2, it is much too early to tell... you can definitely gain a lot of lean muscle on this cycle so follow a good strict diet and train hard and the results will come!
the mirror is the main thing... definitely keep an eye on your sodium intake... being that its only week 2, it is much too early to tell... you can definitely gain a lot of lean muscle on this cycle so follow a good strict diet and train hard and the results will come!
more steel
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is there any benefit/detriment to taking GW before bad for the pm dose?
I did that last night and didn't notice much of a difference. Slept fine and lost the normal amount of weight in my sleep.
I did that last night and didn't notice much of a difference. Slept fine and lost the normal amount of weight in my sleep.
TheSVPdeal
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I'm taking GW right now at 15mg and 20mg ed. I'm getting leaner and its only been a few days. Strength is up and am not noticing any catabolism.
TheSVPdeal
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I break my dose from the time I get up until about five. You tell us how it works out.
Sorry if this has been answered but I thought s-4 and ostarine (mk-2866) were the same thing. Maybe I'm getting mixed up... So we have mk-2866, s-1, and s-4?
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more steel
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S-1, MK-2866, and ostarine are all the same compound. Then there is S-4.
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im not sure there is a detriment to taking it right before bed, but that is not the optimal time to do it... i would do more along the line of 12 hour splits on your gw doses
im not sure there is a detriment to taking it right before bed, but that is not the optimal time to do it... i would do more along the line of 12 hour splits on your gw doses
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s1 is just another name for mk2866 which is also ostarine... s4 is completely different my friend...
s1 is just another name for mk2866 which is also ostarine... s4 is completely different my friend...
Well, the reason I say that is because I've read a lot that s-1 being the same as ostarine is a common misconception. Here is one source: http://sarms101.com/sarms-ostarine/
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Aarg! Am I confusing myself here?
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Okay I think I got it. I'll have to disagree on s-1 being mk2866 but the rest you're right I believe. S-1 is probably that shit I tried 5 years ago. I think this is just a question of names, but I'm sure we both mean the same thing. But if I'm wrong I'd love to get some more credible info I could read up on. Thanks!
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it may have been different previously but it is sometimes termed that now... i never refer to it as s1 personally because it just confuses people
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rustilldown
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Hey Dylan just wanted to let you know after dropping the test boosters like you suggested the water weight has come off of me! Thx homie!!!
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Gotcha. And do you think s-4 could be used in a pct alongside ostarine or are the suppressive effects too much? I apologize if I'm making yu repeat yourself.
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your fine bro... thats what the thread is for... never run s4 in pct... i always use osta but you should never do s4 in pct... wait until after...
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Cool thanks! I think ostarine is going to become a staple of mine in the future. Anxious to see how much I retain.
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ostarine always helps to solidify and retain gains...
ostarine always helps to solidify and retain gains...
A Soft Koala
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Hey Dylan,
What's your thoughts on adding in S4 for the last 4 weeks of a 12 week test E cycle to harden up and lean out a bit? I am familiar with the notion of using it as a bridge between cycles but wanted your thoughts about using it while on.
What's your thoughts on adding in S4 for the last 4 weeks of a 12 week test E cycle to harden up and lean out a bit? I am familiar with the notion of using it as a bridge between cycles but wanted your thoughts about using it while on.
absolutely you can add it in for that... it will be great, especially towards the end of your cycle... have you ever ran it before?
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Ok great, no I have not. I was reading your responses earlier in this thread about starting with 50mg/day (split 25mg morning, 25mg late afternoon). If I am not mistaken you advised to take it 7 days a week unless night vision tinting becomes an issue, then to go to the standard 5 on 2 off protocol. Is this correct?
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yes this is correct... its a slow taper up as well... you should do 50 mg at least 2 weeks before you decide to move up... you just have to test it out and see how you respond...
yes this is correct... its a slow taper up as well... you should do 50 mg at least 2 weeks before you decide to move up... you just have to test it out and see how you respond...
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Got it. Thanks for the quick response I appreciate the help!
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no problem... im always here to help!
no problem... im always here to help!
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hey dylan so i started the stack up today was wondering how long before the gw or ostra starts kickin in what should i start noticing the most? I've already got my BF down from 18-19% to under 16% in the last several weeks due to diet and cardio so I'm really looking forward to this giving me that extra edge in getting to the 13-14% area over the next couple months! Thanks again for all the help setting this up and answering all my questions
hey dylan so i started the stack up today was wondering how long before the gw or ostra starts kickin in what should i start noticing the most? I've already got my BF down from 18-19% to under 16% in the last several weeks due to diet and cardio so I'm really looking forward to this giving me that extra edge in getting to the 13-14% area over the next couple months! Thanks again for all the help setting this up and answering all my questions
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I think unless we find out the moa and if the receptors do indeed get desensitized to its effects. If not I could see running it for long bouts. Similar to TTA. I would still probably cycle it though.
I think unless we find out the moa and if the receptors do indeed get desensitized to its effects. If not I could see running it for long bouts. Similar to TTA. I would still probably cycle it though.
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gw kick in very quickly... you will notice within a day or two... generally osta strength takes 1.5 - 2 weeks but for me it kicked in very quickly... just a few days... i like to give general results though, not just mine because my body seems to kick in quickly on most everything i take... you will get excellent results though bro... your very welcome and good work getting your body fat down... keep working hard... sarms will give you a ton of nice energy too... you will have a really nice feeling on them...
gw kick in very quickly... you will notice within a day or two... generally osta strength takes 1.5 - 2 weeks but for me it kicked in very quickly... just a few days... i like to give general results though, not just mine because my body seems to kick in quickly on most everything i take... you will get excellent results though bro... your very welcome and good work getting your body fat down... keep working hard... sarms will give you a ton of nice energy too... you will have a really nice feeling on them...
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very true... at this point, i wouldn't exceed 12 weeks without a 3 week break... the good thing about sarms is that you only need 2-3 week breaks from them and can jump back on...
very true... at this point, i wouldn't exceed 12 weeks without a 3 week break... the good thing about sarms is that you only need 2-3 week breaks from them and can jump back on...
rustilldown
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Just updating my sarms pct. I am finished and I just had my bloodwork taken so now we await results. Osta -8 weeks at 25mgs ( dropped to 12.5 for last 3 weeks I think it raises prolactin.. For me anyways) S4 50-day 8 weeksno days off. Hcgenerate 5 caps a day 7 weeks, post cycle and unleashed a single serving of each last 4 weeks, and clomid 12.5 /day last 3 weeks. All I can say is my nuts are humongous bigger than ever pre or post any cycle. And I want to bang everything. Ran this immediately following a 10 week test prop mast prop cycle 50 mgs/ day of each... And I was definitely shut down from it. I felt fantastic all 8 weeks of pct. let there be a good blood panel to back this and I will be sold on my future pct plan. ..sarms rule.
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Hey I just got my first bottle of osta. This will be my first experience with SARMS and I decided to after reading all the insight and results posted here on elitefitness. My question is will osta be affected if it wasn't completely sealed? When I opened the bottle the seal was stuck to the top of the lid. The bottle itself looked fine and there was no leaks.
Hey I just got my first bottle of osta. This will be my first experience with SARMS and I decided to after reading all the insight and results posted here on elitefitness. My question is will osta be affected if it wasn't completely sealed? When I opened the bottle the seal was stuck to the top of the lid. The bottle itself looked fine and there was no leaks.
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definitely keep us updated on the bloodwork bro! im glad you had a great run!! good job!
definitely keep us updated on the bloodwork bro! im glad you had a great run!! good job!
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it should be fine... email [email protected] and let them know though bro...
it should be fine... email [email protected] and let them know though bro...
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So I ran S-4 for two weeks at 50mg, then one week at 60mg. I think that I'm going to attempt to hit 70mg tomorrow and jump up 10mg per week until I get to 100mg. And then ride that out for the last week. I'm responding well to it and noticed a huge difference from 50mg-60mg and am running 7 days.
What do you think of the dosing?
So I ran S-4 for two weeks at 50mg, then one week at 60mg. I think that I'm going to attempt to hit 70mg tomorrow and jump up 10mg per week until I get to 100mg. And then ride that out for the last week. I'm responding well to it and noticed a huge difference from 50mg-60mg and am running 7 days.
What do you think of the dosing?
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thats how i always recommend it... 2 weeks at 50 then every 7-10 days do 10 mg increments... never go over 100 but if your able to get to that point, then fucking awesome! just don't go too fast... wait AT LEAST 7 days each time you move up... like i said, you don't want to have to go 5 on and 2 off... the half life on s4 is a mere 4 hours so you don't want to have to miss any days if its not necessary... you know your body, just listen to it and your good brother...
thats how i always recommend it... 2 weeks at 50 then every 7-10 days do 10 mg increments... never go over 100 but if your able to get to that point, then fucking awesome! just don't go too fast... wait AT LEAST 7 days each time you move up... like i said, you don't want to have to go 5 on and 2 off... the half life on s4 is a mere 4 hours so you don't want to have to miss any days if its not necessary... you know your body, just listen to it and your good brother...
King Leonidas
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Read through this entire topic, good stuff going on here.
Dylan what are your thoughts on running Osta and S4 for 8 weeks, along with a 10 weeks of Test Cyp 200mg per week?
I could even add some GW if you think it's necessary.
I've got HCGenerate, Forma, and Adex on hand, and of course I'd run PCT at the end.
I'm 33, 6'01, 205, around 13% bf. I'm looking for a lean bulk. I primarily crossfit, lift 3 days a week, and cycle / run and swim. I'm weary of compounds that would affect my cardio and endurance ability.
Thoughts?
Dylan what are your thoughts on running Osta and S4 for 8 weeks, along with a 10 weeks of Test Cyp 200mg per week?
I could even add some GW if you think it's necessary.
I've got HCGenerate, Forma, and Adex on hand, and of course I'd run PCT at the end.
I'm 33, 6'01, 205, around 13% bf. I'm looking for a lean bulk. I primarily crossfit, lift 3 days a week, and cycle / run and swim. I'm weary of compounds that would affect my cardio and endurance ability.
Thoughts?
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Wow that sounds nice! Good work man.
Wow that sounds nice! Good work man.
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They would be great to run with cyp man... what would be a great stack would be cyp, var, s4 and osta... but either way, if you don't want to use var, then s4 and osta would go great with any test base... trust me, sarms will only be of benefit to your cardio and endurance... thats part of the reason i love them so much... gw would be the most beneficial to your endurance but i dont think you should run it with this stack... thats more for overall weight loss and thats not what your doing here... but you most definitely can run them all together... i would run hcgenerate alongside of it as well...
They would be great to run with cyp man... what would be a great stack would be cyp, var, s4 and osta... but either way, if you don't want to use var, then s4 and osta would go great with any test base... trust me, sarms will only be of benefit to your cardio and endurance... thats part of the reason i love them so much... gw would be the most beneficial to your endurance but i dont think you should run it with this stack... thats more for overall weight loss and thats not what your doing here... but you most definitely can run them all together... i would run hcgenerate alongside of it as well...
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yea got email from them yesterday saying the bottles were shipping to their warehouse and got email today saying they just shipped it out on deliver to me and i should get it in about 2 to 3 days
yea got email from them yesterday saying the bottles were shipping to their warehouse and got email today saying they just shipped it out on deliver to me and i should get it in about 2 to 3 days
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yes, shipments are are being sent to the warehouse and shipped out!!
yes, shipments are are being sent to the warehouse and shipped out!!
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what kind of results should I expect when I stack osta, S4 and GW-501516 ? and would it be better than only ostarine and S4 ?
have you read any reviews about GW-501516 ? considering that you only ran it for few days. Actually, the question is what kind of results would anyone expect from it ?
what kind of results should I expect when I stack osta, S4 and GW-501516 ? and would it be better than only ostarine and S4 ?
have you read any reviews about GW-501516 ? considering that you only ran it for few days. Actually, the question is what kind of results would anyone expect from it ?
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gw is used for two main purposes... shorter duration use would be for endurance purposes... long term use would enhance endurance but its main function would be for losing weight...
it would really depend on your goals... what are your goals and then i can properly guide you on what to take...
gw is used for two main purposes... shorter duration use would be for endurance purposes... long term use would enhance endurance but its main function would be for losing weight...
it would really depend on your goals... what are your goals and then i can properly guide you on what to take...
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I'm staying at about 12-10% body fat right now, and would like to lower it as much as possible along with adding Very lean mass.
thanks man
I'm staying at about 12-10% body fat right now, and would like to lower it as much as possible along with adding Very lean mass.
thanks man
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you can run them all three for 8 weeks but you will need a mini PCT... you should also run HCGenerate alongside of them as well...
1-8 ostarine 25 mg a day one dose in the a.m.
1-8 s4 50 mg a day, split doses, 25 a.m. 25 early afternoon
1-8 gw 10 mg a day, split doses, 5 a.m. 5 p.m.
1-8 HCGenerate 5 caps a day, 3 a.m. 2 p.m.
this is minimal... if you want to step this shit up add these to the cycle
1-8 forma stanzol 10 pumps a day, 5 a.m .and 5 p.m.
1-8 need2slin
1-8 Albuterol or forged burner
then you need a 3 week mini PCT
9-12 Unleashed/post cycle combo
9-12 bridge (double dosed)
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you can run them all three for 8 weeks but you will need a mini PCT... you should also run HCGenerate alongside of them as well...
1-8 ostarine 25 mg a day one dose in the a.m.
1-8 s4 50 mg a day, split doses, 25 a.m. 25 early afternoon
1-8 gw 10 mg a day, split doses, 5 a.m. 5 p.m.
1-8 HCGenerate 5 caps a day, 3 a.m. 2 p.m.
this is minimal... if you want to step this shit up add these to the cycle
1-8 forma stanzol 10 pumps a day, 5 a.m .and 5 p.m.
1-8 need2slin
1-8 Albuterol or forged burner
then you need a 3 week mini PCT
9-12 Unleashed/post cycle combo
9-12 bridge (double dosed)
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well bro, when you lose weight, you are going to be losing body fat, especially when you run s4 and ostarine with it... the combination of these three will shred the fuck out of you if your diet and training are spot on... go take a look at my sarms log when i ran them and see what it did for me...
fuck clen... i will never recommend clen for anyone bro, not at all... i don't think its safe at all and i wouldn't want anyone running it... that's on you if you want to use it... it might cut you quicker but albuterol is much safer and is still a great burner...
well bro, when you lose weight, you are going to be losing body fat, especially when you run s4 and ostarine with it... the combination of these three will shred the fuck out of you if your diet and training are spot on... go take a look at my sarms log when i ran them and see what it did for me...
fuck clen... i will never recommend clen for anyone bro, not at all... i don't think its safe at all and i wouldn't want anyone running it... that's on you if you want to use it... it might cut you quicker but albuterol is much safer and is still a great burner...
RADAR
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Agree with Dylan, Clen raises BP, attacks the Centural nervous system, is hard on the heart, no way would i reccommend it either.
Agree with Dylan, Clen raises BP, attacks the Centural nervous system, is hard on the heart, no way would i reccommend it either.
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possibly if you ran ostarine and s4 with it... i would be more inclined to use albuterol or gw with it as opposed to t3 though... you would see much better gains...
possibly if you ran ostarine and s4 with it... i would be more inclined to use albuterol or gw with it as opposed to t3 though... you would see much better gains...
Ifonly
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Ok cool. I'm stim sensitive, that's wy I ask. Was also thinking bout maybe using pes shift. Any thoughts?
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my recommendation if your stim sensitive is to use need2slin and lean xtreme... along with sarms...
my recommendation if your stim sensitive is to use need2slin and lean xtreme... along with sarms...
Ifonly
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Great. Thanks bud
King Leonidas
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Ya'll check my math...
5 bottles of the S4 are needed if I run the above cycle at 8 weeks?
Ya'll check my math...
5 bottles of the S4 are needed if I run the above cycle at 8 weeks?
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their not letting out the info yet bro... im anticipating just like everyone else is! =)
their not letting out the info yet bro... im anticipating just like everyone else is! =)
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if you are able to make the increase in dosage throughout the cycle, then yes, your math is correct!
if you are able to make the increase in dosage throughout the cycle, then yes, your math is correct!
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your going to love it bro! you have the right supports with it, although you should really save the bridge for your pct portion... daa and hcgenerate is plenty... make sure you do your 3 week mini pct after the stack... unleashed, forged pct and bridge is perfect for it...
Just ordered (2) osta and (2) s4 and plan on running it for 8 weeks during my bridge period before i jump back on the juice along side D-AA, Bridge, and HCGenerate!!!! Can't F'nnnn wait to get this stack underway from all the good results that people have had with Sarms
your going to love it bro! you have the right supports with it, although you should really save the bridge for your pct portion... daa and hcgenerate is plenty... make sure you do your 3 week mini pct after the stack... unleashed, forged pct and bridge is perfect for it...
yeah I'm all geeked up like a little bro on Christmas lol ok so I'll save "Bridge" for the mini pct then and run the HCGenerate and DAA with my Sarms but I also found a bottle of Tongkat Ali in my closet that I forgot I had could I take that with the HCGenerate and Bridge or would it be over-kill? Or save it for pct?
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no need for that bro... another good addition though would be forma stanzol to the mix... you can run it the entire 8 weeks...
no need for that bro... another good addition though would be forma stanzol to the mix... you can run it the entire 8 weeks...
Good shit I'm going to pick up the Forma and run it all the way through at 10pumps a day then! This Is going to be a sick "bridge" bro! I'm going to log my results on here once I start to let people know what I'm experiencing and put progress pics to! Thanks for your help your a good bro! Keep up the good work and for sharing your knowledge to everyone!
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anytime bro, im always here to help... good luck... be careful on your s4 dosing... if you increase, do it very gradual... otherwise you are good to go! keep us updated on your progress!
anytime bro, im always here to help... good luck... be careful on your s4 dosing... if you increase, do it very gradual... otherwise you are good to go! keep us updated on your progress!
No problem bro I'll be cautious on the dosing if I decide to bump it up after 2 weeks! But yes I'll update and keep everyone posted once I start
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I'm about to start a run on s4. Would just taking some DAA be enough whilst taking the s4? Also apart from getting results quicker, are there any pros to running an 8 week cycle as opposed to a 4 week run? Obviously I wouldn't need to run a pct after the 4 week.
Your wisdom is appreciated
I'm about to start a run on s4. Would just taking some DAA be enough whilst taking the s4? Also apart from getting results quicker, are there any pros to running an 8 week cycle as opposed to a 4 week run? Obviously I wouldn't need to run a pct after the 4 week.
Your wisdom is appreciated
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daa would be fine to run with s4... i much prefer to run hcgenerate... i've done it both ways and had a better time when i used hcgenerate as opposed to daa...
you will see a lot more gain running it for 8 weeks as opposed to 4... the pct is only a mini anyway so its not a big deal to have to run it... i would much rather run it for 8 weeks than 4 though... your selling yourself a bit short only going 4 weeks...
daa would be fine to run with s4... i much prefer to run hcgenerate... i've done it both ways and had a better time when i used hcgenerate as opposed to daa...
you will see a lot more gain running it for 8 weeks as opposed to 4... the pct is only a mini anyway so its not a big deal to have to run it... i would much rather run it for 8 weeks than 4 though... your selling yourself a bit short only going 4 weeks...
more steel
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I have been on osta 25mg/day, GW 10mg/day, DAA 3mg/day, and formastanzol 10pumps/day for 16 days. Really felt the osta kick at about day 11. I originally planned on running osta at 12.5 with GW at 10mg for a 4 week cut but decided to up the osta because I had plenty on hand. Now I'm thinking of running the osta all the way through 8 weeks and adding epistane week 4-8. GW will be done after 4 weeks.
Started of at 5'9" 235 at about 22% bf. Now I'm down to 227 and strength is through the roof (PR on bench last week 245 x 14). Diet is 2500kcal with 175-200g protein per day. Paleo diet.
What do you think of the osta/epi stack after week 3? Should I take a break from the forma so I can run it in PCT? My goal is to cut BF while maintaining or increasing strength.
I have HCG, HCGenerate, Forged PCT, epi, test and lots of formastanzol (thank BOGO offer!) on hand. Waiting for 15% BF to run test.
Thanks for your help!
Started of at 5'9" 235 at about 22% bf. Now I'm down to 227 and strength is through the roof (PR on bench last week 245 x 14). Diet is 2500kcal with 175-200g protein per day. Paleo diet.
What do you think of the osta/epi stack after week 3? Should I take a break from the forma so I can run it in PCT? My goal is to cut BF while maintaining or increasing strength.
I have HCG, HCGenerate, Forged PCT, epi, test and lots of formastanzol (thank BOGO offer!) on hand. Waiting for 15% BF to run test.
Thanks for your help!
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