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I was just informed that upon any purchase of capsule devices that within a 3-4 month period after purchase the D.E.A. will pay you a visit. this is not a rumor, this is a fact. it just happened today to a friend of mine. be warned and carefull.
 
bigtravis said:
I was just informed that upon any purchase of capsule devices that within a 3-4 month period after purchase the D.E.A. will pay you a visit. this is not a rumor, this is a fact. it just happened today to a friend of mine. be warned and carefull.
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Big Bump, Let's keep it at the top for everyone


Indy-
 
Yeah, I've heard that they put your name on file, I've been wanting to snag one, but never want to get on a list like that!

Keep meaning to try health food and other hippy supp stores where they sometimes sell them, pay cash...
 
i tried to put myself in his shoes while he was telling me the story but the way he told it was so damn funny and terrifying at the same time. he said it was an old woman and a younger man. lol. older woman. good trick.
 
OK, so if you ordered any tabs or caps then you're going to get a visit? I don't see how that would be possible. So many caps and tabs come through customs that aren't even any kind of drug. Not discounting the alert Big T, but I just don't see how they could open up every package that comes through, check for pills, and then visit. Well I know I'm safe... ;)
 
Makavelli said:
OK, so if you ordered any tabs or caps then you're going to get a visit? I don't see how that would be possible. So many caps and tabs come through customs that aren't even any kind of drug. Not discounting the alert Big T, but I just don't see how they could open up every package that comes through, check for pills, and then visit. Well I know I'm safe... ;)
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not capsules bro. read it again. capsule machines. and i mean every damn one of them to. this isnt a joke.
 
Makavelli said:
OK, so if you ordered any tabs or caps then you're going to get a visit? I don't see how that would be possible. So many caps and tabs come through customs that aren't even any kind of drug. Not discounting the alert Big T, but I just don't see how they could open up every package that comes through, check for pills, and then visit. Well I know I'm safe... ;)
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He's talking about the devices that allow you to cap powders to make pills bro. :)
 
bigtravis said:
not capsules bro. read it again. capsule machines. and i mean every damn one of them to. this isnt a joke.
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Oh...OK bro. Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't implying it was a joke, but you can see my point if it was just caps, not cap machines. Anyway everyone should be careful and this should stay at the top.
 
bigtravis said:
I was just informed that upon any purchase of capsule devices that within a 3-4 month period after purchase the D.E.A. will pay you a visit. this is not a rumor, this is a fact. it just happened today to a friend of mine. be warned and carefull.
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dont they realize we just want to cap our own whey so there is no fillers and inert ingredients like the commercials brands ?? So much for taking the healthy route :)
 
Ya .. your DEA sure has a bug up it's ass over something as simple as steriods ..

IE : The mexican busts as of late ...

Hell even your pot laws are a joke ...

If you look on there website you'll also find a whistle blowers section where you can rat out a online pharmacy of your liking ... that might scare some local talent away but most of the UK guys could care less about america's politics or whos watching them .... the network is in place and as hard as the DEA trys , they will barly put a dent in what imported unless they plan on opening every single piece of mail .. which at this point in time is unrealistic

My last shipment ( all one order ) came from 5 different countries and each one had a return address of old gramma walton .... almost impossible for the postal service to dog track a specific source ...

This has nothing to do with pubic safety but everything to do with the fact uncle sam can't tax what he can't get his greety mitts on ..

Sure glad i don't live there ... lol

I'm sure the cap machine focus's on crystal meth labs as well as a whole host of others besides just the steroid industry .
 
What do they say when they pay you a visit? I doubt its justification for a warrent. I'm not discounting this just trying to figure out their thought process here. Obviously there are leigimet (legal) uses for cappers. Do they have nothing better to chase down..........like people that buy large quantities of meth ingredients?????? WTF
 
Hum, does gnc sell cap machines? I knew for a long while that they kept a list of everyone who buys them, hence me not buying one, dammit, more cash operations pls!

We will soon be seeing sources for cap-m-quicks and the capsule machine....
 
lol it took a while for everone to get that..But even though i never even saw one of them info like this is always greatly appreciated
 
bigtravis said:
i tried to put myself in his shoes while he was telling me the story but the way he told it was so damn funny and terrifying at the same time. he said it was an old woman and a younger man. lol. older woman. good trick.
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That team would scare the shit out of me. The young guy is the muscle and the old women is the brains. That sounds like a killer team to me.
 
Before anyone completely freaks out, this is not alltogether true.

If you purchase a SEMI AUTOMATIC or AUTOMATIC encapsulating machine, you will likely get a visit from the DEA because the sellers of those machines are required by law to turn your name into the DEA database.

But if you just buy one of those small capsule machines like cap m quick or whatever, then those aren't turned in to the DEA so you will not have a problem at all.
 
used2juice said:
Before anyone completely freaks out, this is not alltogether true.

If you purchase a SEMI AUTOMATIC or AUTOMATIC encapsulating machine, you will likely get a visit from the DEA because the sellers of those machines are required by law to turn your name into the DEA database.

But if you just buy one of those small capsule machines like cap m quick or whatever, then those aren't turned in to the DEA so you will not have a problem at all.
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I tend to agree, the small do it yourselfers you buy from lab supply houses are generally not serialized and tracked like the more professional equipment is.
 
Well, even if they WERE keeping track of cheap little plastic cap-m-quik kits like the one I have, I bought it a long time ago and I've had no visits, I think I'm safe :)
 
used2juice said:
Before anyone completely freaks out, this is not alltogether true.

If you purchase a SEMI AUTOMATIC or AUTOMATIC encapsulating machine, you will likely get a visit from the DEA because the sellers of those machines are required by law to turn your name into the DEA database.

But if you just buy one of those small capsule machines like cap m quick or whatever, then those aren't turned in to the DEA so you will not have a problem at all.
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youre about a dumb sob you know that? it was a simple plexy glass machine. 60ct. he said. and if you dont think its true tick turd, go ahead and purchase one. i knew that before long we'd have one post and here he is. TAKE IT AS I SAY IT. AND LISTEN TO NO OTHER RIGHT NOW. IOT WAS A SIMPLE 60CT. MACHINE BY CAPSULINE. NOT AN AUTO OR SEMI-AUTO. SIMPLE , SIMPLE, SIMPLE.
 
Tux said:
Well, even if they WERE keeping track of cheap little plastic cap-m-quik kits like the one I have, I bought it a long time ago and I've had no visits, I think I'm safe :)
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you mean 'your friend' bought his a long time and you think 'he's' safe..
 
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bigtravis said:
youre about a dumb sob you know that? it was a simple plexy glass machine. 60ct. he said. and if you dont think its true tick turd, go ahead and purchase one. i knew that before long we'd have one post and here he is. TAKE IT AS I SAY IT. AND LISTEN TO NO OTHER RIGHT NOW. IOT WAS A SIMPLE 60CT. MACHINE BY CAPSULINE. NOT AN AUTO OR SEMI-AUTO. SIMPLE , SIMPLE, SIMPLE.
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I wouldnt think they would be able to obtain a search warrant. Did the DEA officials come with a search warrant and go through his house? What exactly happened??
 
FUCK!! dammit, i was going to get one so i could start capping the many difrent "creatines" and other fine otc health products that i use. oh well.
 
What if you use a false name when you buy it? Are you required to send a copy of your drivers license to buy one? I remember back in 92-93 I had to send a copy of drivers license to buy 1000 tabs of ephedrine hcl (20mg mini-thins) for $20! They wanted to make sure you weren't a methamphetamine manufacturer. No one ever came to my door though. Those mini thins lasted for years and years, even with my pothead college friends at the time taking them like they were candy. Nuts! I took them before a heavy leg workout, etc., not recreational use.
 
bigtravis said:
youre about a dumb sob you know that? it was a simple plexy glass machine. 60ct. he said. and if you dont think its true tick turd, go ahead and purchase one. i knew that before long we'd have one post and here he is. TAKE IT AS I SAY IT. AND LISTEN TO NO OTHER RIGHT NOW. IOT WAS A SIMPLE 60CT. MACHINE BY CAPSULINE. NOT AN AUTO OR SEMI-AUTO. SIMPLE , SIMPLE, SIMPLE.
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Allright, you need to have your buddy cap you a chill pill. Bro this has happened to me PERSONALLY so I am fully aware of everything sorrounding these situations. A 60cap machine can still be semi automatic, requiring DEA notification.

Now if you are telling me this guy went online, didn't show any identification in any way, paid via moneyorder and then got a visit from the DEA...then you are either lying, or your friend is being watched already.

But, if your friend WAS stupid enough to purchase a machine that is being watched by the DEA (like the capsuline 60ct capsule filler), then he should have read the fine print...

"FIRST TIME BUYERS OF FILLING DEVICES ONLY PLEASE NOTE:
Capsuline® Inc. complies with all U.S. government regulatory requirements. As specified in the Code of Federal Regulations, we require proof of identification (i.e drivers' license, passport) for the sale of all capsule filling devices. Sec. 1310.07 21 CFR Ch.11 (4-1-04 Edition). "

If you have to give your ID to purchase these things, and it says they are government regulated...well then what did he really expect? PURCHASE A CAPSULE MACHINE THAT ISN'T REGULATED BY THE DEA.
 
Thanks for the heads up - I got a Cap-M-Quik last month and made my first batch of ... creatine capsules. I will now have to find a place to keep it before I have to use it again. It's a little plastic contraption that caps 50 at a time but doesn't have any serial numbers or anything on it.

Better safe than sorry - I will take precautions.
 
Well I see this thread is going to hell already, and that's too bad. Guys, it's a capping machine, it's not illegal, many folks make their own supplements and some use it for medicinal reasons, it's not a big deal. Buy something that can be used commercially, or presses tabs, or imprints, they track those. I have seen machines that are tracked via GPS during transit from manufacturer to buyer. What you guys are referring to is not a big deal, and no judge in his/her right mind is going to sign a search warrant based on a mail order capping machine ALONE. If's its not illegal they have no basis to ask for a warrant. Check your local state laws and respect each other here, the crap has definately gotten out of hand lately. If you have forgotten please refer to RADAR's thread, "I never thought I would have to say this" Most of you dont know me personally but I have a law degree, dont flood me with questions, but I am not new when it comes to criminal law. So please, play nice.
 
indy69camaro said:
Well I see this thread is going to hell already, and that's too bad. Guys, it's a capping machine, it's not illegal, many folks make their own supplements and some use it for medicinal reasons, it's not a big deal. Buy something that can be used commercially, or presses tabs, or imprints, they track those. I have seen machines that are tracked via GPS during transit from manufacturer to buyer. What you guys are referring to is not a big deal, and no judge in his/her right mind is going to sign a search warrant based on a mail order capping machine ALONE. If's its not illegal they have no basis to ask for a warrant. Check your local state laws and respect each other here, the crap has definately gotten out of hand lately. If you have forgotten please refer to RADAR's thread, "I never thought I would have to say this" Most of you dont know me personally but I have a law degree, dont flood me with questions, but I am not new when it comes to criminal law. So please, play nice.
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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to indy69camaro again.
 
bigtravis said:
I was just informed that upon any purchase of capsule devices that within a 3-4 month period after purchase the D.E.A. will pay you a visit. this is not a rumor, this is a fact. it just happened today to a friend of mine. be warned and carefull.
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Doesnt surprise me much.
 
used2juice said:
Allright, you need to have your buddy cap you a chill pill. Bro this has happened to me PERSONALLY so I am fully aware of everything sorrounding these situations. A 60cap machine can still be semi automatic, requiring DEA notification.

Now if you are telling me this guy went online, didn't show any identification in any way, paid via moneyorder and then got a visit from the DEA...then you are either lying, or your friend is being watched already.

But, if your friend WAS stupid enough to purchase a machine that is being watched by the DEA (like the capsuline 60ct capsule filler), then he should have read the fine print...

"FIRST TIME BUYERS OF FILLING DEVICES ONLY PLEASE NOTE:
Capsuline® Inc. complies with all U.S. government regulatory requirements. As specified in the Code of Federal Regulations, we require proof of identification (i.e drivers' license, passport) for the sale of all capsule filling devices. Sec. 1310.07 21 CFR Ch.11 (4-1-04 Edition). "

If you have to give your ID to purchase these things, and it says they are government regulated...well then what did he really expect? PURCHASE A CAPSULE MACHINE THAT ISN'T REGULATED BY THE DEA.
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good post bro.
 
i dont think they will bother you for cap-mquick imo, now if your talking about a torpac or profill then your def getting a visit
 
1392477 said:
Thanks for the heads up - I got a Cap-M-Quik last month and made my first batch of ... creatine capsules. I will now have to find a place to keep it before I have to use it again. It's a little plastic contraption that caps 50 at a time but doesn't have any serial numbers or anything on it.

Better safe than sorry - I will take precautions.
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a better idea would be to NOT HIDE IT !! but instead have a bunch of creatine monohydrate powder in it when/if they do find it, so you seem legit.. if they cant find it, then you look suspicious.
 
sorry not quite sure i understand..how does the DEA find out you bought a capsule machine?

Does the online lab supply store give the DEA your info after you make the purchase? if you bought one of those capmquik machines a few years ago using a credit card and you live in the US does the DEA now have your info?
 
Companies like myprotein.co.uk sell a lot of herbals in powder form for bulk discounts. A capping kit is a sensible adjunct and no business of any drug agency. Of course, I live in the UK and have little knowledge of your DEA hassles.
 
This whole topic is kind of funny, cause when you think about it, what illegal drug dealer is looking to cap his product? Can't say I've ever seen Cocaine in cap form, Meth, Pot, Herion, Crack, Hash, Mushrooms, Acid, GHB, etc etc..... Just who the hell are they looking for? Only people I know that use a cap machine are ones that cap DNP, or Creatine..... Again, if this is true, what a waste of Tax dollars...... I just can't figure out what they think illegal drug dealers would be using this for, or am I just not thinking of it?

rizz
 
Prizz said:
This whole topic is kind of funny, cause when you think about it, what illegal drug dealer is looking to cap his product? Can't say I've ever seen Cocaine in cap form, Meth, Pot, Herion, Crack, Hash, Mushrooms, Acid, GHB, etc etc..... Just who the hell are they looking for? Only people I know that use a cap machine are ones that cap DNP, or Creatine..... Again, if this is true, what a waste of Tax dollars...... I just can't figure out what they think illegal drug dealers would be using this for, or am I just not thinking of it?

rizz
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Well Roids of course. Raw powders from China. Just do a web search and you can find a bunch of Chinese companies willing to ship you drol, var, tbol or anything else your heart might desire.
 
Prizz said:
This whole topic is kind of funny, cause when you think about it, what illegal drug dealer is looking to cap his product? Can't say I've ever seen Cocaine in cap form, Meth, Pot, Herion, Crack, Hash, Mushrooms, Acid, GHB, etc etc..... Just who the hell are they looking for? Only people I know that use a cap machine are ones that cap DNP, or Creatine..... Again, if this is true, what a waste of Tax dollars...... I just can't figure out what they think illegal drug dealers would be using this for, or am I just not thinking of it?

rizz
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deltron2000 said:
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Yawp, this is what I was told by the DEA agents...people were supposedly using these larger machines to cap E in large quantities. Fortunately I was smart and capped a bunch of glutamine and creatine blended caps just in case...that they confiscated and supposedly tested. :rolleyes:


On a sidenote, I'd love to see some guys pop up who carry some nicer machines without ID requirements. Once homebrew gets bigger, guys who are willing to do this will probably make some good cash.
 
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