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blueta2

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Second time I am wathing this.........the 40 yr old's look a WHOLE lot better than the 20 yr olds. Not that I am bias or anything ;-)
 
redsamurai said:
blue's just fishing for another opportunity to post up her hot cougar ass and smokin coug legs............. :qt:


hehehe..heck no. I'm not worthy compared to the hotties on that show
 
w/ botox and human growth hormone - somatropin - it's not very surprising.

secret of hollywood

HGH especially now for wimminz. beats plastic surgery though...now it's alot more natural
 
redsamurai said:
blue's just fishing for another opportunity to post up her hot cougar ass and smokin coug legs............. :qt:
lol, I'm 27 and the last coug I went out with was 39. :eyes:
 
pick the 1% of the 1% of 40 y/o's who still look hot

pit them against

average looking 20 somethings u can find anywhere.

what a hillarious competition.

how about 20 y/o's vs the average 40 y/o :)
 
Razorguns said:
pick the 1% of the 1% of 40 y/o's who still look hot

pit them against

average looking 20 somethings u can find anywhere.

what a hillarious competition.

how about 20 y/o's vs the average 40 y/o :)
I wouldn't call those 20 year olds average. I don't think the 40 somethings really look that much better in general the 40 year olds look at bit more platic then the 20 somethings b/c of plastic surgery likely not that there is anything wrong it cause I will be hitting the botox at that age for sure.
 
lol @ calling the sky red
 
btw: this is what average 40 y/o people look like in america:

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of course - a 'realistic' reality show wouldn't do too well :)

r
 
if we were "allowed" to take care of ourselves in this world, most of us would look better at 40 than we did at 20. But the world ain't set up that way..........somebody working 50-60-70 hours a week plus taking care of children and still "just" barely makin it...........ain't gonna look too good. If this was my world the work week would be capped at 40 hours, no exceptions.........and y'all would be forced into hormone replacement...........lunchtime workouts would be mandatory..........and there would be a 2 kid limit, anything over get's taxed...........no retirement age, you can work till whenever you choose.............give me a minute, I'll think of more............but the bottom line is that people would still be virile well into their 60's.
 
Razorguns said:
btw: this is what average 40 y/o people look like in america:

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of course - a 'realistic' reality show wouldn't do too well :)

r


In America, I agree. But in Canada, we have a healthier lifestyle.
When I went to my 20 yr high school reunion, I was expecting to see some old looking classmates. When I got there, I did not see ONE horrible looking woman. They all looked fantastic! The men on the other hand all looked old.
I think woman today are just more conscience of taking care of themselves, even with the full time jobs and kids.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
I wouldn't call those 20 year olds average. I don't think the 40 somethings really look that much better in general the 40 year olds look at bit more platic then the 20 somethings b/c of plastic surgery likely not that there is anything wrong it cause I will be hitting the botox at that age for sure.


D, you just keep taking care of yourself and you will not need "work" done when you get older.
 
al420 said:
This is just silly. If you look better at 40 than 20 you had issues in your 20's.....

I looked like a rag when I was 20. The only issues I had were not exercising and not having a clue about proper diet.
 
I don't watch the show but I have seen the commercials - there is one 20 year old chick that is pratically choking on your own tits. Sometimes boob jobs can go too far.
 
redsamurai said:
if we were "allowed" to take care of ourselves in this world, most of us would look better at 40 than we did at 20. But the world ain't set up that way..........somebody working 50-60-70 hours a week plus taking care of children and still "just" barely makin it...........ain't gonna look too good. If this was my world the work week would be capped at 40 hours, no exceptions.........and y'all would be forced into hormone replacement...........lunchtime workouts would be mandatory..........and there would be a 2 kid limit, anything over get's taxed...........no retirement age, you can work till whenever you choose.............give me a minute, I'll think of more............but the bottom line is that people would still be virile well into their 60's.

I'm taping this to my fridgey! I'd add mandatory siesta time during the work day and (2) three-week vacations (company paid, of course:)) during the year. I'm serious, you know what a happy work force we'd have?...it'd be a pleasure bolting widgets to whatchamacallits.
 
The 21 year old student is going to win. She is cute and has no plastic. Plus she seems real! The old ones have NO SHOT!!! Fun to talk to but not to date. Remember this is realty TV not the real world. :-)
 
Canada has a lot of sexy/hot + 38 womens

blueta2 said:
In America, I agree. But in Canada, we have a healthier lifestyle.
When I went to my 20 yr high school reunion, I was expecting to see some old looking classmates. When I got there, I did not see ONE horrible looking woman. They all looked fantastic! The men on the other hand all looked old.
I think woman today are just more conscience of taking care of themselves, even with the full time jobs and kids.
 
LuluDeren said:
I'm taping this to my fridgey! I'd add mandatory siesta time during the work day and (2) three-week vacations (company paid, of course:)) during the year. I'm serious, you know what a happy work force we'd have?...it'd be a pleasure bolting widgets to whatchamacallits.


you're the one with the italian flag, I'm assuming you live in Italy so you know all about how people live there. My friend comes back from there after visiting family and talks about it.........I always roast him for not staying, but he's a free market economist so he can't tolerate any socialism whatsoever. But fuck do those people live good...........he say's at his cousins company people just up and leave on thursday, and nobody say's shit........all still make good money. People just cut the work week one day short, no vacation or nothing like that.........they just decide to go to the beach............and everybody get's up and goes............fucking insane. Yeah, they don't "economically" rule the world because they're not driven zealots for power, but yet they're happier.........hmmmmm?.........
 
when a 40 y/o is declared 'hot', it's because she looks 'younger'.

and a 20 y/o is already 'young'

so do the math.
 
redsamurai said:
you're the one with the italian flag, I'm assuming you live in Italy so you know all about how people live there. My friend comes back from there after visiting family and talks about it.........I always roast him for not staying, but he's a free market economist so he can't tolerate any socialism whatsoever. But fuck do those people live good...........he say's at his cousins company people just up and leave on thursday, and nobody say's shit........all still make good money. People just cut the work week one day short, no vacation or nothing like that.........they just decide to go to the beach............and everybody get's up and goes............fucking insane. Yeah, they don't "economically" rule the world because they're not driven zealots for power, but yet they're happier.........hmmmmm?.........


This also is the norm is Swiss and German countries. You walk into a company for a first time job and the vacation time is 6 weeks off the bat. No limit on sick days etc.
Here in North America being ill and taking vacation is frowned upon. I know where I work, being sick is a sign of weakness and MANY ppl come to work sick like dogs. Its nuts!
I wonder what the stats are on prescription anti-depressant /anti anxiety meds are from European to North America?!
 
Razorguns said:
when a 40 y/o is declared 'hot', it's because she looks 'younger'.

and a 20 y/o is already 'young'

so do the math.

You could not be further off the mark.

A 40 year old woman IS hot because of the combination of her physical beauty and the wisdom that she has gained through life experience.

A 20 year old girl only LOOKS hot because of her youth.

No math required. :)
 
BIKINIMOM said:
You could not be further off the mark.

A 40 year old woman IS hot because of the combination of her physical beauty and the wisdom that she has gained through life experience.

A 20 year old girl only LOOKS hot because of her youth.

No math required. :)


We need an applause button here at EF! ;-)
 
BIKINIMOM said:
You could not be further off the mark.

A 40 year old woman IS hot because of the combination of her physical beauty and the wisdom that she has gained through life experience.

A 20 year old girl only LOOKS hot because of her youth.

No math required. :)
I agree 100%!!
 
blueta2 said:
Second time I am wathing this.........the 40 yr old's look a WHOLE lot better than the 20 yr olds. Not that I am bias or anything ;-)
Post up some sexy cougar pictures!!! :evil:
 
redsamurai said:
you're the one with the italian flag, I'm assuming you live in Italy so you know all about how people live there. My friend comes back from there after visiting family and talks about it.........I always roast him for not staying, but he's a free market economist so he can't tolerate any socialism whatsoever. But fuck do those people live good...........he say's at his cousins company people just up and leave on thursday, and nobody say's shit........all still make good money. People just cut the work week one day short, no vacation or nothing like that.........they just decide to go to the beach............and everybody get's up and goes............fucking insane. Yeah, they don't "economically" rule the world because they're not driven zealots for power, but yet they're happier.........hmmmmm?.........
The maternity leave in Sweden in two years PAID! I need to move to Europe
 
fistfullofsteel said:
i like the new car smell, and low miles

Dunno, the way many young girls behave anymore makes us cougars seem like we have hardly been handled.

....and THAT, my friend, is what I have gathered from reading all of the posts on elite by YOU MEN.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Dunno, the way many young girls behave anymore makes us cougars seem like we have hardly been handled.

....and THAT, my friend, is what I have gathered from reading all of the posts on elite by YOU MEN.


man Girl, you're on fire today! Right on! I was with only 3 men until I was in my mid 30's. Some 18 yr olds I know now have banged at least 20 guys.
 
blueta2 said:
man Girl, you're on fire today! Right on! I was with only 3 men until I was in my mid 30's. Some 18 yr olds I know now have banged at least 20 guys.


that's why guys have to live in a country where banging 16 year old cheerleader chicks is legal :p
 
fistfullofsteel said:
that's why guys have to live in a country where banging 16 year old cheerleader chicks is legal :p

hey man is pedophilia is your thing, then hey, whom am I to judge!
 
blueta2 said:
hey man is pedophilia is your thing, then hey, whom am I to judge!


banging 16 year old chicks is not pedophilia. plenty of 16 year olds can get their driver liscense at 16 and many have been convicted as an adult in court at 16.
 
fistfullofsteel said:
banging 16 year old chicks is not pedophilia. plenty of 16 year olds can get their driver liscense at 16 and many have been convicted as an adult in court at 16.

yes, this reasoning works if you're 20 yrs and younger. If any grown man is interesting in popping a 16 yr old, he's a pedpophile!
 
blueta2 said:
yes, this reasoning works if you're 20 yrs and younger. If any grown man is interesting in popping a 16 yr old, he's a pedpophile!

Agreed. Hell I have even seen grown men here on elite bragging about banging 15 y/o's.... but hey, whom I to judge? :rolleyes:

I know that most grown men are kidding when they post up about having sex with CHILDREN that young, but good Lord, some of them are just plain STOOPID.

When one is talking about age-gaps the age of the older consenting adult is far less relevant to the discussion than the age of the younger party. Seems that most guys here on elite forget that. Or... they just don't care.

Either way, not my problem. I am happy as a clam with my very own dirty old grump. :heart: Goodness when I think of all the young broads he was boinking, makes me sorta sick to my stomach. But hey, they were all legal US drinking age (21 to 25). And it is like an epiphany to him that WE get along so well... :rolleyes:

Men are SUCH simple creatures.... gotta luv 'em every one! :)
 
Mavafanculo said:
I tried to send you my 1 Karma, but the minimum karma store transfer is 5 so thats what I sent.

you owe me 4 karma.


LOL....I got it thanks....you rock! I owe you 4 k.

:heart:
 
Faizakafez said:
I like the cat...

also i didnt no you had a pool i think im coming too mtl in a few weeks


That's Ziglet the Piglet (my cat). Sure, come you can stay in my pool ;-)
 
blueta2 said:
yes, this reasoning works if you're 20 yrs and younger. If any grown man is interesting in popping a 16 yr old, he's a pedpophile!


ok, cause you said so. :rolleyes: i understand that you are a has been in the looks department and you are angry about it.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Agreed. Hell I have even seen grown men here on elite bragging about banging 15 y/o's.... but hey, whom I to judge? :rolleyes:

I know that most grown men are kidding when they post up about having sex with CHILDREN that young, but good Lord, some of them are just plain STOOPID.

When one is talking about age-gaps the age of the older consenting adult is far less relevant to the discussion than the age of the younger party. Seems that most guys here on elite forget that. Or... they just don't care.

Either way, not my problem. I am happy as a clam with my very own dirty old grump. :heart: Goodness when I think of all the young broads he was boinking, makes me sorta sick to my stomach. But hey, they were all legal US drinking age (21 to 25). And it is like an epiphany to him that WE get along so well... :rolleyes:

Men are SUCH simple creatures.... gotta luv 'em every one! :)
The age of consent in most Western countries is sixteen. I was watching a documentary about the American presidents the other day. Congress passed legislation for civil war vet pensions. It turned out to be a fiasco because, "Fourteen year old girls were running out and marrying men over seventy for their pensions." This was in 20th century America......
 
javaguru said:
The age of consent in most Western countries is sixteen. I was watching a documentary about the American presidents the other day. Congress passed legislation for civil war vet pensions. It turned out to be a fiasco because, "Fourteen year old girls were running out and marrying men over seventy for their pensions." This was in 20th century America......

:worried:

I dig old men (one in particular) but 14 and over 70?!?! My God, what on earth would they have to talk about after the sheets stopped rustling?
 
javaguru said:
The age of consent in most Western countries is sixteen. I was watching a documentary about the American presidents the other day. Congress passed legislation for civil war vet pensions. It turned out to be a fiasco because, "Fourteen year old girls were running out and marrying men over seventy for their pensions." This was in 20th century America......


Civil War Vets? 70+? Couldn't have been any later than turn of the century....BEFORE women had the right to vote. Of course, marriageble girls would jump at the prospect when compared to the relative poverty, and 12+ hours of daily labor they had to look forward to.

I think someone already mentioned that 16 may be the legal age of consent in the US, BUT I believe the partner must be under 18. I've heard of 19 year olds being prosecuted when their gf's were 16 and 17.
 
LuluDeren said:
Civil War Vets? 70+? Couldn't have been any later than turn of the century....BEFORE women had the right to vote. Of course, marriageble girls would jump at the prospect when compared to the relative poverty, and 12+ hours of daily labor they had to look forward to.

I think someone already mentioned that 16 may be the legal age of consent in the US, BUT I believe the partner must be under 18. I've heard of 19 year olds being prosecuted when their gf's were 16 and 17.
1865.....

sixteen year old man......


Anyway, the age of consent in the US is generally regarded as eighteen though it varies by state and the federal age is sixteen. In Canada and Germany it's fourteen and in Spain it's thirteen......

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/
 
javaguru said:
1865.....

sixteen year old man......


Anyway, the age of consent in the US is generally regarded as eighteen though it varies by state and the federal age is sixteen. In Canada and Germany it's fourteen and in Spain it's thirteen......

http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/


Easy way to solve the question regarding *highest* stats on girls marrying old pensioneers...what year was the legistlation regarding Civil War Vets pensions passed? I'm betting the resultant marriage arrangements spiked before women had the right to vote.
 
LuluDeren said:
Easy way to solve the question regarding *highest* stats on girls marrying old pensioneers...what year was the legistlation regarding Civil War Vets pensions passed? I'm betting the resultant marriage arrangements spiked before women had the right to vote.
I don't see what wiminz sufferage has to do with the fact old dudez like to bang young chicks and young chicks will bang old doodz for money.....this is still the case....

PS I blame prohibition on women's sufferage.....it was a primarily female and religious based movement.
 
javaguru said:
I don't see what wiminz sufferage has to do with the fact old dudez like to bang young chicks and young chicks will bang old doodz for money.....this is still the case....

PS I blame prohibition on women's sufferage.....it was a primarily female and religious based movement.


I am thinking the point was that these women had no chance for economic survival without a man's money. Their destiny was 100% reliant on the man's economic success. Couple this with the fact that people didnt live nearly as long as they do today and there you have it.

There are still many regions in the world where women have little to no chance for economic independence regardless of how smart or driven they are so they have but their youth and beauty to rely on to secure their future and the future of their children.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I am thinking the point was that these women had no chance for economic survival without a man's money. Their destiny was 100% reliant on the man's economic success. Couple this with the fact that people didnt live nearly as long as they do today and there you have it.

There are still many regions in the world where women have little to no chance for economic independence regardless of how smart or driven they are so they have but their youth and beauty to rely on to secure their future and the future of their children.
I think it's a logical leap assuming womens sufferage equated to greater opportunity. Look at what sufferage represents in the real world. Women constitute over 50% of the US population;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_members_of_the_United_States_Congress#Gender
"As of 2007, 83.7% of Congress is male and 16.3% is female.[4] The global average for female representation at the parliamentary level in 2007 was 17.0%.[5] "


I think we can all agree that women value socio-economic status more than men when choosing a mate.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I am thinking the point was that these women had no chance for economic survival without a man's money. Their destiny was 100% reliant on the man's economic success. Couple this with the fact that people didnt live nearly as long as they do today and there you have it.

There are still many regions in the world where women have little to no chance for economic independence regardless of how smart or driven they are so they have but their youth and beauty to rely on to secure their future and the future of their children.
Precisely. Women HAD TO marry well for their survival. It was marry or be a hooker, in most cases.
 
blueta2 said:
Second time I am wathing this.........the 40 yr old's look a WHOLE lot better than the 20 yr olds. Not that I am bias or anything ;-)
awsome, except everyone still preferes 20 year old females
 
And then you have the opposite side of the extreme: women like Paris Hilton who are considered to be quite physically attractive and talk about wealth and privilige!... but void of any talent or much functioning grey matter. Now if she didn't have her daddy's money tell me that most men would tolerate spending the time necessary to achieve an orgasm.
 
javaguru said:
I think it's a logical leap assuming womens sufferage equated to greater opportunity. Look at what sufferage represents in the real world. Women constitute over 50% of the US population;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_members_of_the_United_States_Congress#Gender
"As of 2007, 83.7% of Congress is male and 16.3% is female.[4] The global average for female representation at the parliamentary level in 2007 was 17.0%.[5] "


I think we can all agree that women value socio-economic status more than men when choosing a mate.

Any woman who doesn't take this into consideration when choosing a perspective mate is either not too bright because she lacks the mental capacity or is not too bright as she lacks life experience.

Either way, she ain't too bright, not to metion not very discerning.

If I only I knew at the tender age of 20 what I know today as I near 40, you had better believe that my children would have a far different life. But I can not take back the past... only struggle to improve the future.
 
heatherrae said:
Precisely. Women HAD TO marry well for their survival. It was marry or be a hooker, in most cases.
In the early 20th century there was no middle class in the US to speak of, that was a product of WWII, everyone was whoring to survive. A man didn't have the option of "marrying well" he had to make it on his own steam. Now, I can take you into the local "wealthy bar" and show you 20 men over 50 with a 20-28 year old woman on their arm and you won't find a single woman over 40 with a substantially younger man as a serious boyfriend/husband.

Women value socio-economic status (security) and men value beauty....which generally equates to youth.
 
javaguru said:
In the early 20th century there was no middle class in the US to speak of, that was a product of WWII, everyone was whoring to survive. A man didn't have the option of "marrying well" he had to make it on his own steam. Now, I can take you into the local "wealthy bar" and show you 20 men over 50 with a 20-28 year old woman on their arm and you won't find a single woman over 40 with a substantially younger man as a serious boyfriend/husband.

Women value socio-economic status (security) and men value beauty....which generally equates to youth.

I have said this many times...

and all else stems from this truth.

Good god if I had a dime every single time I was met with angry posts from male board members because of the fact that I *dared* to say it! :lmao: I would have been a wealthy gal all on my own then.

But I like it better this way.... Me and My Old Grump have a lot of laughs. :heart:
 
javaguru said:
In the early 20th century there was no middle class in the US to speak of, that was a product of WWII, everyone was whoring to survive. A man didn't have the option of "marrying well" he had to make it on his own steam. Now, I can take you into the local "wealthy bar" and show you 20 men over 50 with a 20-28 year old woman on their arm and you won't find a single woman over 40 with a substantially younger man as a serious boyfriend/husband.

Women value socio-economic status (security) and men value beauty....which generally equates to youth.
I hate to break it to you, dear, but we "old" women get young guys hitting on us plenty, despite what you may want to believe. I'm 37, and I get offers for dates from men in their 20's ALL THE TIME. I think that women just don't tend to NEED the twenty-somethings on their arms as some sort of validation.

I never say never, but I doubt that I would ever seriously date a twenty-something.
 
heatherrae said:
I hate to break it to you, dear, but we "old" women get young guys hitting on us plenty, despite what you may want to believe. I'm 37, and I get offers for dates from men in their 20's ALL THE TIME. I think that women just don't tend to NEED the twenty-somethings on their arms as some sort of validation.

I never say never, but I doubt that I would ever seriously date a twenty-something.[/QUOTE]


:worried:


lol, you can make an exception..
 
Faizakafez said:
heatherrae said:
I hate to break it to you, dear, but we "old" women get young guys hitting on us plenty, despite what you may want to believe. I'm 37, and I get offers for dates from men in their 20's ALL THE TIME. I think that women just don't tend to NEED the twenty-somethings on their arms as some sort of validation.

I never say never, but I doubt that I would ever seriously date a twenty-something.[/QUOTE]


:worried:


lol, you can make an exception..
LOL...maybe. :qt:
 
heatherrae said:
I hate to break it to you, dear, but we "old" women get young guys hitting on us plenty, despite what you may want to believe. I'm 37, and I get offers for dates from men in their 20's ALL THE TIME. I think that women just don't tend to NEED the twenty-somethings on their arms as some sort of validation.

I never say never, but I doubt that I would ever seriously date a twenty-something.

Exactly... It doesn't make us *look more impressive* to other females to be boinking a very young man. Actually, it makes us look (to most other females) as if that woman is sorta wierd. I mean (no offense to young men) but what could a man that is THAT MUCH YOUNGER possibly have to offer a much older woman?

I would get it too... I mean guys as young as late teens. (Which I found to be personally icky)

Now I get strange looks admittedly because my husband is obvioulsy older than me and I suppose that is because I dont look my age but even then it shouldnt raise so many eyebrows as I am neither some *little young thang*.
 
heatherrae said:
I hate to break it to you, dear, but we "old" women get young guys hitting on us plenty, despite what you may want to believe. I'm 37, and I get offers for dates from men in their 20's ALL THE TIME. I think that women just don't tend to NEED the twenty-somethings on their arms as some sort of validation.

I never say never, but I doubt that I would ever seriously date a twenty-something.
I'm talking about a serious relationships and not banging. Most of the men I know have hooked up with chicks they wouldn't take into public to hang with their friends, including me. How many people do you know where the man is 10+ years older than the wife and how many men do you know married to women even 5+ years older.

HR, post a thread with an anonymous poll of how many men would actually marry a cougar.....
 
javaguru said:
I'm talking about a serious relationships and not banging. Most of the men I know have hooked up with chicks they wouldn't take into public to hang with their friends, including me. How many people do you know where the man is 10+ years older than the wife and how many men do you know married to women even 5+ years older.

HR, post a thread with an anonymous poll of how many men would actually marry a cougar.....
My dad's wife is 5+ years older.

And, once again, darling, you fail to realize that perhaps women don't value being with a significantly younger man and we CHOOSE not to marry younger men. If I wanted to marry a twenty something, I guarantee you that I could do it. I have absolutely no doubts.

Also, when I see that a man in his forties has a pattern of dating many girls in their twenties, it makes me weary of that man. I assume that he has self-esteem problems or is very shallow.
 
javaguru said:
OK, that's one....my dad was 10 years older than my mom. How many older men do you know that are married to younger women?
Plenty. There are many reasons why:

1. some men have to be "in charge" like your father instead of your husband (I've been there and got the proverbial T-shirt.)

2. some men feel young again to have captured the affections of a younger woman.

3. some men are just shallow and have bought into the young= better culture of america.
 
heatherrae said:
Plenty. There are many reasons why:

1. some men have to be "in charge" like your father instead of your husband (I've been there and got the proverbial T-shirt.)

2. some men feel young again to have captured the affections of a younger woman.

3. some men are just shallow and have bought into the young= better culture of america.
You missed the evolutionary biology argument.

Women who are under 30 are better mates when it comes to procreation, women over 40 are undesirable for the same reason. Men produce viable sperm into old age but women stop producing viable embryos. Men find younger women more attractive, post a picture of the hottest 40 year old you can find from hollywood with all her augmentations to look younger and a natural 22 year old beauty blows her away when choosing a procreation mate. I'm not talking about someone you are compatible with but what men are generally attracted too. Men prefer younger women and the data backs me up.
 
javaguru said:
You missed the evolutionary biology argument.

Women who are under 30 are better mates when it comes to procreation, women over 40 are undesirable for the same reason. Men produce viable sperm into old age but women stop producing viable embryos. Men find younger women more attractive, post a picture of the hottest 40 year old you can find from hollywood with all her augmentations to look younger and a natural 22 year old beauty blows her away when choosing a procreation mate. I'm not talking about someone you are compatible with but what men are generally attracted too. Men prefer younger women and the data backs me up.

See but, we were supposed to have evolved beyond our biology... were we not?

That is why to a smart woman, a man with a large and well-functioning BRAIN is far more attractive than a man with a large well-functioning physique.

True, as for child-bearing a 20-something woman will on the whole be a physically superior specimen to a 40-something woman just because as a woman's estrogen levels decline, so does her fertility. But how many men truly choose a mate based on her fertility? How many men (or women) feel the need to have enough children to *work the farm* or *support them in their twilight years*?

MEN NEED TO EVOLVE.... LOL

Seems that women have gotten with the program, now haven't they?! ;)
 
javaguru said:
You missed the evolutionary biology argument.

Women who are under 30 are better mates when it comes to procreation, women over 40 are undesirable for the same reason. Men produce viable sperm into old age but women stop producing viable embryos. Men find younger women more attractive, post a picture of the hottest 40 year old you can find from hollywood with all her augmentations to look younger and a natural 22 year old beauty blows her away when choosing a procreation mate. I'm not talking about someone you are compatible with but what men are generally attracted too. Men prefer younger women and the data backs me up.
Until then, I didn't see that you had mentioned evolutionary biology.

I almost exclusively have dated older men, and, trust me, most didn't enter the relationship in hopes of having a whole gaggle of kids.

I think that the 40-ish women in hollywood are just as pretty as the 20 somethings. I know many in real life the same way.

Hell, look at the poll here on ef of pretty women. All of the top ones are in their late 30's.
 
I am unbiased
I like poon of all ages, nationalities and socio-economic standing.
:whatever:

I think the 48 y/o on the show should win though
 
i am biased......i like women!!!!!!!!!!!!!! have to admit that a woman with a little expereince under her belt(LOL) has a lot to offer. experience in life, sex, or whatever though this may or may not be related to age alone
 
heatherrae said:
Until then, I didn't see that you had mentioned evolutionary biology.

I almost exclusively have dated older men, and, trust me, most didn't enter the relationship in hopes of having a whole gaggle of kids.

I think that the 40-ish women in hollywood are just as pretty as the 20 somethings. I know many in real life the same way.

Hell, look at the poll here on ef of pretty women. All of the top ones are in their late 30's.
Let's exclude procreation.

Who are the guys hitting on in the night clubs? Who are the pornstars? Why do women get surgery to look younger? Women know that men are generally attracted to a youthful appearance....

I've usually dated women my age or older for maturity reasons and not physical attraction. I dated a woman sixteen years older who had the hottest body I've ever been with but in 10 more years she would have looked old. She told me she wouldn't date me seriously because one day I would wake up and realize she's old. I was 30 at the time and she was 46....
 
javaguru said:
Let's exclude procreation.

Who are the guys hitting on in the night clubs? Who are the pornstars? Why do women get surgery to look younger? Women know that men are generally attracted to a youthful appearance....

In America - absolutely 100%. But that isn't necessarily the case in some other places. There are still some places where a woman's age is not *held against her* but rather the beauty that comes with the passage of time is honored and desired.

There is a beauty that belongs only to youth - tis true. To debate that is silly. But to say that this *beauty* is far more desirable than the beauty that can only come from life experience is far more foolhardy as we all must age.... or die.
 
javaguru said:
Let's exclude procreation.

Who are the guys hitting on in the night clubs? Who are the pornstars? Why do women get surgery to look younger? Women know that men are generally attracted to a youthful appearance....

I've usually dated women my age or older for maturity reasons and not physical attraction. I dated a woman sixteen years older who had the hottest body I've ever been with but in 10 more years she would have looked old. She told me she wouldn't date me seriously because one day I would wake up and realize she's old. I was 30 at the time and she was 46....
hmmm...when I used to go out dancing in clubs with my sister, I got hit on just as much as the twenty somethings. LOL...you think that we just automatically lose our appeal at a certain age? You really have no idea what it's all about to be a female and who is hitting on us and who isn't. As long as women take good care of themselves, men continue to love them. Sadly, many men treat their women like slaves-- someone to watch the kids, the house, go to work, cook their food, etc. They don't allow them any time to take care of themselves. Then, they bitch because the woman has "let herself go."

I probably will never bother marrying again. Why add another person to take care of when they never appreciate it anyway?
 
heatherrae said:
hmmm...when I used to go out dancing in clubs with my sister, I got hit on just as much as the twenty somethings. LOL...you think that we just automatically lose our appeal at a certain age? You really have no idea what it's all about to be a female and who is hitting on us and who isn't. As long as women take good care of themselves, men continue to love them. Sadly, many men treat their women like slaves-- someone to watch the kids, the house, go to work, cook their food, etc. They don't allow them any time to take care of themselves. Then, they bitch because the woman has "let herself go."

I probably will never bother marrying again. Why add another person to take care of when they never appreciate it anyway?
Ummm, I did my own laundry, cooked my own food, did the grocery shopping and when we divided cleaning chores I was stuck with the kitchen and both bathrooms. Yes, I was married for almost four years....
 
The reason 20 something guys like cougars is primarily because older women are far more willing to do anal

nuff said

:LockMe!:
 
Wulfgar said:
The reason 20 something guys like cougars is primarily because older women are far more willing to do anal

nuff said

:LockMe!:
I'll give you that but all things being equal you'll take a twenty something over a forty something when it comes to marriage.
 
javaguru said:
I'll give you that but all things being equal you'll take a twenty something over a forty something when it comes to marriage.
well thats the thing. you have to marry the 20 something to get them to give up the ass

so really it is all semantics
 
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