After cycle problem? Confused

[Torry1111]

Havent been taking any steroids after a pretty huge crash on deca and testo for about 2-3months ago. Now my Sex drive is back, and i have no problem with gettig it up. But this irritating thing wont spurt like it did before. Why is this?
Before ladies called me the painter and now almost nothing is "comming out" when im finishinging sex. Im confused
Thanks

 

[cdownie927]

bump for this answer ever since I started juice its been that way, its only half decent when im on hcg and clomid.

 

[Mini Viper]

this is interesting, bump for more views and any suggestions for load recovery.

 

[satchboogie]

maybe your test levels havent come back to normal range yet.
they may never come back either... another risk related side to aas use.

 

[cdownie927]

maybe your test levels havent come back to normal range yet.
they may never come back either... another risk related side to aas use.

so if they never come back then can you still cycle on and off of aas or do you stop juicing and do you have to go on hrt

 

[chordz]

Give it more time. Don't go on a cycle till you are all good. I bet the Deca is still running through you system, that may be your problem. It will come back, but stay natural till then.

 

[RADAR]

i would run some more post cycle recovery until things are in working order!!!!!!!


RADAR

 

[alltraps]

i would run some more post cycle recovery until things are in working order!!!!!!!


RADAR

yup, what he said

 

[paul2110]

Fuckin hell, that's scary!

How much deca did you do Torry, and for how long?

 

[Juice Authority]

maybe your test levels havent come back to normal range yet.
they may never come back either... another risk related side to aas use.

Bingo! I too was on Testo 500 @1gm per week. The crash off that and other drugs ended me up in a medical detox. I would have to say that your endrocroine system hasn't fully recovered yet. What post cycle supps and anciliaries are you usng?

 

[Torry1111]

"they may never come back either" This cant be true, can it?
I run 750Test and 400Deca week for 12weeks.
post cycle supp was:
Clomid
Nolvadex
proviron
Zma
Tribulus
For total of 8weeks.
Like i said, i have no problem getting it hard, and having sex, the problem is the "load".

 

[Juice Authority]

"they may never come back either" This cant be true, can it?
I run 750Test and 400Deca week for 12weeks.
post cycle supp was:
Clomid
Nolvadex
proviron
Zma
Tribulus
For total of 8weeks.
Like i said, i have no problem getting it hard, and having sex, the problem is the "load".

Time heels all wounds. You may have a light load from some time. Deca shuts you down harder than any other AAS other than maybe Fina. There is something you can take to increase your sperm count. It's a GH called Ganotropin and it used for males with low sperm counts. The best thing to do if you're bothered by this is to go to a fertility clinic and have them access the problem and run some fertility tests.

 

[cdownie927]

Hey Juice, I had my sperm tested and it read 8million out of a normal 20million, im getting my blood results on wedensday for test and liver. Do you think there is a chance I could get gh because of the low sperm

Time heels all wounds. You may have a light load from some time. Deca shuts you down harder than any other AAS other than maybe Fina. There is something you can take to increase your sperm count. It's a GH called Ganotropin and it used for males with low sperm counts. The best thing to do if you're bothered by this is to go to a fertility clinic and have them access the problem and run some fertility tests.

 

[Juice Authority]

Hey Juice, I had my sperm tested and it read 8million out of a normal 20million, im getting my blood results on wedensday for test and liver. Do you think there is a chance I could get gh because of the low sperm

You can buy Ganotropin in Mexico. That's the one GH that is specifically designed to increase sperm production in the testis. I would first get a script here and have it filled in Mexico. It's a lot cheaper that way unless your insurance provider covers it, which is highly doubtful.

 

[Quadsweep]

Hey Juice, I had my sperm tested and it read 8million out of a normal 20million, im getting my blood results on wedensday for test and liver. Do you think there is a chance I could get gh because of the low sperm

I juiced for years with no post cycle anything and I have a healthy son. Remember, when it comes to sperm.."There can be only one!" Quote from Connor Mcleod...one is all you need. You will recover.

Quad

 

[Juice Authority]

I juiced for years with no post cycle anything and I have a healthy son. Remember, when it comes to sperm.."There can be only one!" Quote from Connor Mcleod...one is all you need. You will recover.

Quad

Too true but there are things you can take as a male to help the process along.

 

[cdownie927]

Do you think I can get it if I ask the doc with that reading or wait until blood test.

 

[Juice Authority]

Do you think I can get it if I ask the doc with that reading or wait until blood test.

I would use both the reading and the blood test and tell the Doc that you're concerned b/c you've been trying to get you "finance" pregnant for months to no avail. Yoou might want to shed a tear or two. It can't hurt.

 

[cdownie927]

Thanks for the help

 

[winny100]

Gh = sperm count , is there any evidence of this

I thought Arimidex & clomid was best for sperm count

any thoughts guys ?

 

[Spartacus]

do you guys realize that 95% of your "load" comes from the prostate gland and cowpers gland?

 

[Spartacus]

actually I'm a bit off;
SEMEN

Source Volume Characteristics
Urethral and bulbourethral glands 0.1-0.2cc Viscous, clear
Testes, epididymides,vasa deferentia 0.1-0.2cc Sperm present

Prostate 0.5-1.0cc Acidic,watery
Seminal vesicles 1.0-3.0cc Gelatinous, fructose positive
Complete ejaculate 2.0-5.0cc Liquefies in 20-25min

 

[Spartacus]

Normal ejaculate volume is between 2 and 6 ml. 65%of the volume is from seminal vesicles, 30-35% is from the prostate and only 5% from the vasa. Low volume is associated with absence or decrease of seminal vesicle component of ejaculate( absence of SV, complete or partial obstruction of ejaculatory ducts) or retrograde ejaculation

the seminal vesicles are located behind the prostate and beneath the bladder...what I'm attempting to point out is that your ejaculate problems are probably not due to the testes not functioning properly and/or optimally

 

[Spartacus]

anti-sperm antibodies test

Although men with abnormal hormone production may benefit from hormone therapy, most men with decreased sperm counts have normal hormone levels and do not benefit from such therapy.

Medications used for men include: clomiphene citrate, hCG and tamoxifen. Clomiphene increases FSH and LH levels, which are regulated in the pituitary as is sperm production. Males take clomiphene orally every day for four to six months to allow time for the improvement of sperm production. Typically, there is a 10 to 15 percent success rate for this type of medication.

If a man’s sperm count and quality are extremely low, injections of hCG may be used. This is a medication that goes directly to the testicle and causes it to produce a high testosterone level, which is necessary for normal sperm production. Tamoxifen blocks the action of the female hormone that is produced by the testicle in small amounts. The idea behind this is in blocking the production of female hormone, it will allow for better sperm production.


Anti-Sperm Antibody Test

In males, barriers exist to "hide" sperm from the body’s immune system. This is to keep the body from identifying the sperm as foreign, classifying it as dangerous and producing a defense against it. When these barriers break down the body produces anti-sperm antibodies. If these antibodies attach themselves to sperm they cause severely diminished motility and/or agglutination. Females may also produce anti-sperm antibodies. The presence of antibodies is evaluated by testing seminal fluid, semen and the serum from the woman. There should be an anti-sperm antibody evaluation if: in preparation of a vasectomy reversal, sperm motility is diminished, there is an increase of agglutination observed or if sperm viability is in question. Females should be evaluated if a sperm cervical mucus interaction assay test necessitates it.

Men and women who have high levels of anti-sperm antibodies may benefit from taking the drug prednisone. In low doses it suppresses sperm antibodies and improves sperm function. Taken for extended periods of time adverse side effects develop, so it may only be used for a few months

 

[Torry1111]

4everhung Wow thanks for a long answer. problem is that im not that good in english, so i would be very thankful if you could answer me this is a short! summary:
1 What u think is my problem for small amount of load
2 What you think will help me getting it back quickest?

If anyone else could answer, Welcome

 

[Juice Authority]

Re: anti-sperm antibodies test

Men and women who have high levels of anti-sperm antibodies may benefit from taking the drug prednisone. In low doses it suppresses sperm antibodies and improves sperm function. Taken for extended periods of time adverse side effects develop, so it may only be used for a few months

I don't see the relevance of this drug for the purpose you described. Can you expand on that.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a601102.html#why

Why is this medication prescribed?
Prednisone, a corticosteroid, is similar to a natural hormone produced by your adrenal glands. It often is used to replace this chemical when your body does not make enough of it. It relieves inflammation (swelling, heat, redness, and pain) and is used to treat certain forms of arthritis; skin, blood, kidney, eye, thyroid, and intestinal disorders (e.g., colitis); severe allergies; and asthma. Prednisone also is used with other drugs to prevent rejection of transplanted organs and to treat certain types of cancer.

This medication is sometimes prescribed for other uses; ask your doctor or pharmacist for more information.

 

[Spartacus]

i just added that info about anti-sprem anti-bodies as I had never heard of that..just tossed it in...on another note I noticed in the "inventory" of ejaculate that the amt from the prostate is "watery" and amts to .5-1.0cc while the amount from the seminal vesicles is "gelatinous" and is 1-3ccs...occassionally I'll have a "chunky" discharge and now I beleive its due to dehydration and/or not enough hydration..which it seems would lessen the amount of "watery" prostate ejaculate...so as its been mentioned here before,you could up your fluid intake to increase your discharge