adderol

[Meathead209]

Any of you bros out there take adderol? I am currently cutting all nateral with T-rex and a really clean diet and was given some adderol man that stuff will give you the most focus and motivation in the gym its crazy. It also suppresses the appitite. What do you guys think about adderol?

 

[help4john]

What do you guys think about adderol?

......should be given to children with hyperactive attention deficit disorder. This calms the child and focuses their attention to reduce aggitation and decrease instances of spontaneous, inappropriate behavior. Since the opposite holds true in adults (acts as a stimulant), I feel that there can be more associated risks than possible beneficial outcomes. Either way....good luck.

 

[theironclan]

Very addictive. Make sure you don't get stuck using it every day!

 

[androjunkie]

Any of you bros out there take adderol? I am currently cutting all nateral with T-rex and a really clean diet and was given some adderol man that stuff will give you the most focus and motivation in the gym its crazy. It also suppresses the appitite. What do you guys think about adderol?

I know a lot of people that use it before contests or on cutting cycles, as effective as it is, it can be very addictive, especially when you're taking it every day and you don't have a medical reason for taking it. None of my friends have gotten hooked on it, they use it for a few weeks when they need it, then they discontinue it, but none of the people I know have a predisposition to addiction either. Some guys use adderall, some prefer ritalin. If I were going to use it, I would make sure I was on a cycle, as it can strip away quite a lot of muscle if your natural while taking it.

 

[Tux]

If you're not prone to addiction, I think it's a great boost to a serious diet. I used to get strips of ritalin straight from the pharm in mexico and loved those. I would use ECA or ECY for 2 weeks, then ritalin for 2 weeks, alternate those for 6-8 weeks total while cutting. Excellent results and cheaper than clen for me( i'm basically immune to clen so i can't afford 300mcg/day). If you're prone to addiction don't use it though, it's a schedule II amphetamine and can easily be abused.

 

[boogersnax]

Any of you bros out there take adderol? I am currently cutting all nateral with T-rex and a really clean diet and was given some adderol man that stuff will give you the most focus and motivation in the gym its crazy. It also suppresses the appitite. What do you guys think about adderol?

Adderall a combination of, I think, three different Amphetamines. THAT'S! why it's so damn good...mmmmm...

PEACE
BoogerSnax

 

[black_stripe1658]

doc told me that it is addictive I guess prolonged use is addictive.

 

[rednecklb69]

if your using ritalin or adderol you better be careful that you dont have to do a piss test for any reason because you will come back looking like your on angel dust, it happened to a buddy of mine and he forgot to tell the doc he was taking it for an upper and the doc started asking him where he was getting it from and dumb shit like that

 

[Watson]

I'm guessing you guys are talking about mental addiction. I have tons of theories on the stuff as I've been taking it for over 4 years now on a daily basis. I'm prescribed 60 mg. per day for adult ADHD. I used to take the prescribed dose but I've dwindled down to almost 20 because this drug and gaining weight do not mix. My roomate would be as close to what I would call Addicted. He takes up to 70 mg. per day and he will constantly run out of his prescription and dig into mine before the month is up. I've gotten him to slow down over the last two months. In all honesty I think it's a drug that were gonna see people dying over in the next couple of years due to heart conditions that it may cause. It just can't be safe. I don't believe it is anything like meth in the physical addiction sense. It does help you concentrate though. If I take it to work out I'll take about 5 mg. so it won't dehydrate me too bad.

 

[Tux]

No watson, we're talking about physical addiction. It's an amphetamine bro, same class and schedule as meth. It's not as strong per mg no, but it's still quite addictive, both physically and mentally. It's not as bad as meth because meth users almost always snort, smoke, or inject it, making the high that much more intense. If you take adderall orally, the way it's designed, you don't get that quick release so the addiction potential goes down slightly. Of course, if you snort adderall, or take 60mg at once, you'll get nice and speedy high lol, just like meth. People don't tend to get as addicted to it b/c it's harder to get and so forth, but it's quite addictive overall.

 

[Meathead209]

The ones I have are 10 mg i usually take them two or three times a week . they seem to work well. you sure do get your shit done though they make you focus hard core.

 

[csobel]

tux is on the money. Adderall is a combination of Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, dextroamphetamine sulfate usp, amphetamine asparate, and amphetamine sulfate. The dextro group on the first two is what gives adderall that sweet taste. Since it contains amphetamine, a sister molecule of methamphetamine, it is both psychologically and physiologically addictive.

 

[ViperHMS]

I'm currently taking Ritalin 10mg 3x day. I hate the shit, it makes me feel like shit, I don't want to be around anyone, and I cannot eat anything while taking it. It used to help when I first started taking it but now it seems worse to take it than to just be normal. I went the Straterra route and that has some serious sexual side effects and I said fuck that. I think i'm going to try Adderal and if that doesn't work I'm just going to have to deal with it.

If you are taking it to focus on working out, make sure you drink a lot of extra water because it dryes me out so bad normally. I drink constantally on it and still always feel thirsty and dry.

 

[help4john]

tux is on the money. Adderall is a combination of Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, dextroamphetamine sulfate usp, amphetamine asparate, and amphetamine sulfate. The dextro group on the first two is what gives adderall that sweet taste. Since it contains amphetamine, a sister molecule of methamphetamine, it is both psychologically and physiologically addictive.

100% accurate. Karma for your post!

 

[CRsteve]

I take Ritalin (methylphenidate) to cut, it works well (supresses appetite, extreme focus, stimulant for energy), but if you have an addictive personality or don't like the feeling of coming down after taking it for a prolonged period of time, don't touch it. Like was said, Adderal and Ritalin are like taking speed.

 

[ViperHMS]

I take Ritalin (methylphenidate) to cut, it works well (supresses appetite, extreme focus, stimulant for energy), but if you have an addictive personality or don't like the feeling of coming down after taking it for a prolonged period of time, don't touch it. Like was said, Adderal and Ritalin are like taking speed.

Yeah coming off that shit is hell. Don't fucking talk to me while I'm in this stage. Usually about 6pm every day. I take my last 10mg around 3ish.

 

[house of chics]

It is not addictive, I am in the pharmaceutical business and sell a drug that is a form of ritalin. It has a short half life and is out in less than a day no problems with coming off of it

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

I still wanna try some

 

[wesley90]

Is the XR version as effective when attempting to cut?
Thanks.

 

[ViperHMS]

XR is a slow release i beleive. I wouldn't base cutting off of using Adderal of Ritalin though.

 

[Watson]

There is a huge difference between mental and physical addiction. I have a very addictive personallity and adderall has never been a problem. I also can't see cocain being physically addictive. I think it's more of the high leaving that makes you want to do another line, not that you can't physically function while not on the stuff. I smoked for years and quit cold turkey. It's almost like I was addicted to the motion and having something to do rather than the actual nicotine. The only time I have felt physical addiction is when I had to get some professional help to overcome an addiction to vicodin. I took it for months when I had broken my hand and it took me a while to figure out what the hell was wrong with me. I literally couldn't do anything without them. I had absolutely no energy. Then if I even took a quarter of a pill I was like superman for half an hour. Physical addiction is some scary shit. I've had a lot of friends that have literally thrown thier lives away because of painkillers and meth.

 

[csobel]

Thanks for the k.

"RE: It is not addictive, I am in the pharmaceutical business and sell a drug that is a form of ritalin. It has a short half life and is out in less than a day no problems with coming off of it"

Whereas methamphetamine and amphetamine are similar in the fact that they both contain the amphetamine backbone, methamphetamine is made from adding a methyl group to the amine in amphetamine, thus altering its potency, duration, etc. Its like esterfication; think test e vs. test prop.
Ritalin is methylphenidate, which is a more complex molecule and DOES NOT contain the amphetamine backbone. It has another benzine ring in its structure as well as some other modifications; C14 H19 NO2. IT IS, however, physically addictive, in the way that 1) the body develops tolerance 2) the drug creates a deficit of the neurotransmitters seratonin, dopamine and norepinephrine which it can only overcome with time.

The term "physically addictive" can be defined many ways, and we see many degrees of physical addiction in ALL drugs. Nicotine and Heroin withdrawls are simply more pronounced due to the larger deficit and short half lifes than are methylphenidate withdrawls. On a molecular level, however, the body is going through a similar process. Even TCH is physically addictive, but due to the fact that TCH is fat soluble and remains in the system for so long, the withdrawls are insignificant even with heavy users.

Hope this helps clarify things

 

[androjunkie]

There is a huge difference between mental and physical addiction. I have a very addictive personallity and adderall has never been a problem. I also can't see cocain being physically addictive. I think it's more of the high leaving that makes you want to do another line, not that you can't physically function while not on the stuff. I smoked for years and quit cold turkey. It's almost like I was addicted to the motion and having something to do rather than the actual nicotine. The only time I have felt physical addiction is when I had to get some professional help to overcome an addiction to vicodin. I took it for months when I had broken my hand and it took me a while to figure out what the hell was wrong with me. I literally couldn't do anything without them. I had absolutely no energy. Then if I even took a quarter of a pill I was like superman for half an hour. Physical addiction is some scary shit. I've had a lot of friends that have literally thrown thier lives away because of painkillers and meth.

The addiction is phsychological to amphetamines. Although, if you've ever seen a long term meth addict come down, they don't function well for about a week, so there is some physical side effects from stopping, but mostly from the lack of sleep and nutrition. The other long term side effect seen in amphetamine addicts is schizophrenia and paranoia. Most addicts in recovery from meth are prescribed anti-depressants when they clean up, most stay on them forever depending on how long their run was with meth. All of what I said is from long term addiction though, using it on a short term basis shouldn't cause much of a problem as long as you stay very hydrated, and make sure you keep eating.

 

[androjunkie]

It is not addictive, I am in the pharmaceutical business and sell a drug that is a form of ritalin. It has a short half life and is out in less than a day no problems with coming off of it

Or so the company tells you. Trust me, I have extensive knowledge of pharmaceuticals and ritalin IS addictive, mentally. In patients with real ADHD not ADD, ritalin and others aren't addictive because they have the opposite effect on that person. Instead of speeding them up they slow them down so that they can concentrate on one thing, instead of having a thousand thoughts wizzing through their brain at once. Hell, even strong narcotics such as morphine and fentanyl aren't addictive as long as the patient being prescribed them IS in fact experiencing severe pain. People get hooked on narcotics when they use them for slight to moderate pain, because when you do that, you tend to get the "high" from them, the cause being that you aren't concentrating on the pain, you are feeling the euphoric effects of the painkillers. Before anyone flames me, I'm NOT saying that if you take amphetamines YOU WILL GET ADDICTED, there are hundreds of thousands of people that take them every day, and can discontinue them with no ill effects. My 2 cents.

 

[csobel]

Amphetamines and derrivatives thereof are both psychologically and physiologically addictive. We know of its physiologically addictive properties from a biochemical standpoint. This is simply fact. Yes you are right that a long term meth addict will experience withdrawls unlike eg. opiates. Opiates produce a DIFFERENT kind of physical addiction than do amphetamines, but physical addiction is defined as the body's inability to produce certain neurotransmitters at a level which it could normally without drug x thereby making both classes of drugs "physically addictive"

There is a popular definition of physically addictive these days that has become too far removed from the molecular science of what is actually going on.

 

[wesley90]

Well is there any evidence that it helps burn fat?

 

[*MissFit*]

Adderol and ridalin a side effect if you speak to any doctor is decrease in appetite and it increase your ability to concentrate.. not sure why it would be considered a fat burner but i know it does affect ones weight

Well is there any evidence that it helps burn fat?

 

[Tux]

Yes, adderall and ritalin are stimulants and anorectic agents, they'll decrease appetite and increase energy expenditure, both of which will help with fat loss. And K to you, csobel, I was getting pissed off at the idiots who think that amphetamines aren't physically addictive. Nicotine is physically addictive too. Just b/c you stopped cold turkey doesn't mean you didn't suffer withdrawals or that you weren't physically addicted, you just might not have noticed it. I went through painkiller withdrawal after being on them for a broken tailbone, it sucked but I was better in 2 days b/c I wasn't on them long. I never used ritalin long enough to experience physical addiction but believe me, drugs like that are schedule II for a reason.

 

[UA_Iron]

adderall...the sustanon of amphetamines.

I wouldnt rely on it for weight loss. I know I fiend it when I have some, and I've hit up my friends for it before.

I think the propensity for addiction is high, despite what pharmecutical interests will tell you.

Diet is ultimately what everything should be based on.

 

[*MissFit*]

I agree.. and think ppl should only take it if they really have a need...meaning suffer from something one of these is presribed for.. ADD ADHD.. etc

adderall...the sustanon of amphetamines.

I wouldnt rely on it for weight loss. I know I fiend it when I have some, and I've hit up my friends for it before.

I think the propensity for addiction is high, despite what pharmecutical interests will tell you.

Diet is ultimately what everything should be based on.

 

[UA_Iron]

I agree.. and think ppl should only take it if they really have a need...meaning suffer from something one of these is presribed for.. ADD ADHD.. etc

like a big test the next day or something

 

[Watson]

Well If I don't feel myself having physical withdrawls then is it really worth mentioning? I mean you don't sit on the couch and think to yourself "man I need to get up, but I just don't have the energy without smoking a cigarette." The things that go through your head constantly are mental. After you eat, you really WANT a cigarette. You don't physically need a cigarette. You can't classify a painkiller addiction to a nicotine addiction. I've had freinds that have had to sit there and watch thier wives pack up and leave them because they can't even get up to do anything about it they're so fucked up on vicodin. The day that adderral or nicotine does this to somebody then I'll say they're physically addicting.

 

[csobel]

I just need to put cap on this. Of COURSE ITS ALL IN YOUR HEAD!!!!! Literally, it is all in your head--in your brain. Yes, as a biochemistry major I can equate nicotiene addiction to heroin addiciton. Nicotiene is actually more physically addictive than heroin; the withdrawl lasts about 6 times longer. As an individual, you cannot tell the difference between physical and psychologiacal addiction. To your brain, they appear to be the same thing, so it is not at all accurate to say that because you can get up and smoke you are not physically addicted.

Trust me on this one, you are going against a bulwark of medical literature that clearly shows that niccotine is both psychologically and physiologically addictive.

 

[Tux]

Well watson, I've know plenty of people who have had throat cancer removed and still kept smoking. They've almost been killed by it but they still can't stop. And if it were a mental addiction, they'd keep putting the ciggarette to the their lips like always right? But no, they put it to the hole in their neck from the tracheostomy, because that way the nicotine gets into their system faster. PHYSICAL addiction bro, as strong as any narcotic. Just b/c it's legal doesn't mean it's not very addictive, people have held up stores and committed robbery and murder just to get ciggarettes.

 

[daemian]

No watson, we're talking about physical addiction. It's an amphetamine bro, same class and schedule as meth. It's not as strong per mg no, but it's still quite addictive, both physically and mentally. It's not as bad as meth because meth users almost always snort, smoke, or inject it, making the high that much more intense. If you take adderall orally, the way it's designed, you don't get that quick release so the addiction potential goes down slightly. Of course, if you snort adderall, or take 60mg at once, you'll get nice and speedy high lol, just like meth. People don't tend to get as addicted to it b/c it's harder to get and so forth, but it's quite addictive overall.

Adderall is not physically addictive, and neither is methamphetamine, cocaine, or any other stimulant. An example of a physically addictive drug would be heroin. A drug that can cause death if removed from an addict too quickly is physically addictive. A drug that becomes required for the body to run (however poorly) is physically addictive. Get your facts straight. Stimulants are mentally addictive, highly so.

 

[Tux]

Daemian, quit being an idiot. Every medical book you can find, every legitimate study published, states that amphetamines ARE physically addictive. A substance that can cause death if withdrawn is NOT what classifies something as addictive.. just read the damn definition if you don't believe me. My father is a Dr., my whole family is medical and I'm going to be shortly, believe me you've got it wrong. If you develop a tolerance to the drug, and your body cannot function normally without it after cessation, it is addictive. So, since you have to take more and more adderall to function "normally", by your own definition, it's addictive physically, and you WILL go through physical and mental withdrawal when you stop it. My facts are straight bro, you need to hit the books more.

 

[Watson]

I'd probably be wrong going against the bookwork, I'll admit. I too know people that would kill if they couldn't smoke. I guess it's more of an individual thing, the way it effects you. I base my vision of physical addiction on my painkiller addiction a few years back, and I mean I couldn't do shit without them. I was worthless unless I was on that pill. That to me is a physical addiction. Everything else has been easy to quit, untill it comes to the juice. Extreme mental addiction for me.

 

[muscelove]

So does this shit help burn fat without catabolic effects?

 

[DIVISION]

So does this shit help burn fat without catabolic effects?

If your diet isn't adequate it will burn both fat and muscle........

The same as T3 in that fashion.





DIV

 

[androjunkie]

If your diet isn't adequate it will burn both fat and muscle........

The same as T3 in that fashion.





DIV

Division aka "Crackhead" is right. J/K bro, sometimes you're hilarious, and I actually laugh out loud out some of your posts..............sometimes.

 

[house of chics]

the bottom line is this the only way that it is going to help you cut up is that it makes you loose your appetite, With adderall xr the main product used, the original studies showed 22% loss of appt. and the higher you go in dose the more of your appt. will go away. MPH products have a lower side affect and are not dose dependent.