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Just finished my blast and have started my cruise around 10 days back bros. Getting ready to order my stuff for the next blast as i like to have my stuff on hand atleast a month in advance including my protein lolol...

Here's the plan :
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The blast will be for 14 weeks straight.

Test E 300mgs every third day
Tren E 150mgs every third day
Deca durabolin 100mgs every third day

Caber .5mgs ed
Proviron 75mgs ed
Adex .5mgs ed

Protein 300 - 350 grams ed

As far as the caber goes, i've been taking it continuously for over a year now at .5 mgs every 4th day for its wellness and prolactin benefits and the result has been outstanding. Hence the dare in running Deca and Tren together.

Week 15 onwards - trt for the next 14 weeks.

Suggestions? Advise? Questions?
 
Weight?? Aside from the obvious mixture of Tren and Deca being a no, no, your deca dosage is really low, so it looks like you're using it for joints, correct? I wouldn't use Deca with Tren, but at such low dosages with Caber it looks almost okay. My suggestion would be switch the Deca to Equipoise 400mg EW. I try to keep my testosterone as low as possible when combining it with other AAS, specially if it's 3 different compounds, for bloat you know? Tren being one of my favorite AAS aside from Test IMHO should be ran with as low testosterone as you can possibly get away with, I do it with 250mg EW, just as I would do with Primo. If the Caber works for you and it makes you feel good, then hey, what can I say, the Proviron there is beautiful, are you gyno/bloat prone? If so the Adex is okay, but if you are not gyno/bloat prone, why use it, the Proviron at a 100mg ED should do the trick, taking the benefits of estrogen away from a cycle is not good for ya, you still need it to grow, and some water retention is actually beneficial for your tendons/ligaments. I'm the same way you are, I like to have the whole cycle in my possession before I even start, you never know.
 
Aeromasin over Adex perhaps, better price too.
 
I think the plan kicks ass..

But a bit heavy handed for my liking..
I also HATE ancillary drugs.. I like to keep doses low enough to needle little to zero.. I use DHT based stuff like proviron for estrogen control.

You're breaking the bank at that proviron dose lol!
 
GrownUp said:
Weight?? Aside from the obvious mixture of Tren and Deca being a no, no, your deca dosage is really low, so it looks like you're using it for joints, correct? I wouldn't use Deca with Tren, but at such low dosages with Caber it looks almost okay. My suggestion would be switch the Deca to Equipoise 400mg EW. I try to keep my testosterone as low as possible when combining it with other AAS, specially if it's 3 different compounds, for bloat you know? Tren being one of my favorite AAS aside from Test IMHO should be ran with as low testosterone as you can possibly get away with, I do it with 250mg EW, just as I would do with Primo. If the Caber works for you and it makes you feel good, then hey, what can I say, the Proviron there is beautiful, are you gyno/bloat prone? If so the Adex is okay, but if you are not gyno/bloat prone, why use it, the Proviron at a 100mg ED should do the trick, taking the benefits of estrogen away from a cycle is not good for ya, you still need it to grow, and some water retention is actually beneficial for your tendons/ligaments. I'm the same way you are, I like to have the whole cycle in my possession before I even start, you never know.
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Yes, i thought of incorporating the deca for its cushioning effects. But now coming to think of it seriously lol, i think the deca should be upped to atleast 400mgs ew...what say? So....just thinking aloud here....if i decide to do 400mgs of deca and 450mgs of tren, and say...600mgs Test E ew...how would we divide the shots?

The Test E i use is p.g stuff and it is 300mgs / ml. My deca AND the Tren E are also 300mgs / ml. Supposing i just shoot 1 ml of each, straight, once every fourth day...as in...mon, fri, tue, sat....that would make it 1800mgs of each compound ew? No, a little lesser... Now THAT would be some blast ehh?? A friggin 12 week run??

As far as gyno goes...i don't think i'm prone but bloat...yes. Nevertheless, my diet takes care of that aspect. Water retention will happen anyways with the deca, won't it? Even then, i'll run the adex at .5mgs eod instead of ed.

Oh my weight? I currently weigh 191 lbs and am' at 8.5%.

Eq is something i dont wanna do as i dont want to get hungrier lol. Eating has never been a problem lol.
 
stevesmi said:
whats your TRT like? how has it worked for you first off.

2nd off are you not concerned with recovery issues?
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I've been on trt over the last year and a half almost and so far...it has been fanta fabulous bro. No hormonal fluctuations. No yoyo effect on the body. No crashes. No wimpy emotional tears lol. Recovery?

Recovery from what?
 
ArmaniAK47 said:
I think the plan kicks ass..

But a bit heavy handed for my liking..
I also HATE ancillary drugs.. I like to keep doses low enough to needle little to zero.. I use DHT based stuff like proviron for estrogen control.

You're breaking the bank at that proviron dose lol!
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No price talk for anything aas related.
 
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GrownUp said:
Weight?? Aside from the obvious mixture of Tren and Deca being a no, no, your deca dosage is really low, so it looks like you're using it for joints, correct? I wouldn't use Deca with Tren, but at such low dosages with Caber it looks almost okay. My suggestion would be switch the Deca to Equipoise 400mg EW. I try to keep my testosterone as low as possible when combining it with other AAS, specially if it's 3 different compounds, for bloat you know? Tren being one of my favorite AAS aside from Test IMHO should be ran with as low testosterone as you can possibly get away with, I do it with 250mg EW, just as I would do with Primo. If the Caber works for you and it makes you feel good, then hey, what can I say, the Proviron there is beautiful, are you gyno/bloat prone? If so the Adex is okay, but if you are not gyno/bloat prone, why use it, the Proviron at a 100mg ED should do the trick, taking the benefits of estrogen away from a cycle is not good for ya, you still need it to grow, and some water retention is actually beneficial for your tendons/ligaments. I'm the same way you are, I like to have the whole cycle in my possession before I even start, you never know.
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His total is plenty high so it's irrelevant if one compound is dosed lower.
 
Ozzie87 said:
way too much cabergoline........

0.5 E3 or 4 days

up the dose ONLY if needed.

that drug can have nasty side effects
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Well, Ozzie, the last blast of mine that ended just 10 days or so back, i ran the caber at .5mgs eod for three months straight and the only side i got from it was multiple orgasms....And even now i'm continuing with it at .5mgs eod.

Have you Personally run it at my kind of dosages and experienced any nasty sides? If yes, state them.
 
genetics said:
Well, Ozzie, the last blast of mine that ended just 10 days or so back, i ran the caber at .5mgs eod for three months straight and the only side i got from it was multiple orgasms....And even now i'm continuing with it at .5mgs eod.

Have you Personally run it at my kind of dosages and experienced any nasty sides? If yes, state them.
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Lmao.

Anyone ever consider L-DOPA instead of Cabergoline/dostinex?
 
Ozzie87 said:
oh forgot to say i have found that as long as i dont go over .225mg E4D i get the benefits without the horrible sides.

hence my horror when i saw you were planning on 0.5ED lol

sorry if i sounded arrogant in my post earlier btw, that was def not my intention :)
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Hey not at all bro. Infact i sincerely appreciate the fact that you were looking out bro...and i'm very sorry that caber gave you those sides...i'm doing good with it though...i guess each individual experiences different sides from different compounds.
 
14 weeks of Tren.....enjoy being shut down for like...EVER?
 
genetics said:
Strange you should ask this for just today i've begun my researches on L dopa and shall soon be experimenting with it lol
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If you would please put a "post-it" note somewhere telling yourself to get back to me on how L-Dopa works for you?

My heart acts "funny" if I screw with it.. In fact, a night of smoking and drinking leaves me with palpitations and "leaking beats" if that makes any sense..

L-dopa may be a safer choice ?
or may be worse.. Idk, but I'd love to hear if you'd get back to me..
 
ArmaniAK47 said:
If you would please put a "post-it" note somewhere telling yourself to get back to me on how L-Dopa works for you?

My heart acts "funny" if I screw with it.. In fact, a night of smoking and drinking leaves me with palpitations and "leaking beats" if that makes any sense..

L-dopa may be a safer choice ?
or may be worse.. Idk, but I'd love to hear if you'd get back to me..
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The day i'm done with my Practical experimentations with L Dopa, my friend Armani will be the first to know the results :artist:
 
Wootooom said:
14 weeks of Tren.....enjoy being shut down for like...EVER?
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Do you feel i'll be shut down irrespective of being on trt bro? My reasoning was...although i would run it reasonably longer than normal, after i'd stop the tren, i'd be going on with my trt shots...thereby preventing shut down?
 
genetics said:
Do you feel i'll be shut down irrespective of being on trt bro? My reasoning was...although i would run it reasonably longer than normal, after i'd stop the tren, i'd be going on with my trt shots...thereby preventing shut down?
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Genetics im sure everyone would agree on running tren this long is a bad idea... and PCT will def help but i guarantee you will remain shut down...thats a long time...i was shut down off 8 weeks bad and i had the proper PCT....Im just looking out for you bro!
 
genetics said:
Do you feel i'll be shut down irrespective of being on trt bro? My reasoning was...although i would run it reasonably longer than normal, after i'd stop the tren, i'd be going on with my trt shots...thereby preventing shut down?
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Well hang on to that dream......:)
 
I also think that "shut down" is inconsequential here.. TRT has you "shut down" already.. no need for PCT, just keep up your TRT and you cut out the PCT entirely..
 
This is something that i'll have to try for myself once and for all. Wootoom, good bro, i'm sure is trying to help out here, but no one's able to tell me WHY i'd be shut down inspite of being on trt?

All people keep saying is you'll be shut down & you'll be shut down.

I have been on trt for the last year and a half and havn't done pct. Obviously not bros. I'm just out of the Cycling, pct ON - OFF game. It is simply blasting and cruising for me irrespective.

As far as my researches go and with all the things i've so far read about tren, the reason you'd be shut down would be - 1) either because you didn't run the Test longer than the tren before
proper pct, OR,
2) Your pct wasn't good enough, OR,
3) You didn't run the hcg throughout cycle thereby not keeping up
your endogenous production...

But with me here bros, the scenario would be totally entirely different. I havn't run hcg since about a year since i developed different allergic reactions to it and although the boys have shrunk, the shrinkage isn't too considerable and i'm okay with it. My libido's strong. I'm performing well sexually. The girls are happy.

Now if i run the tren for 14 weeks straight ( which i agree is long ), i'm NOT going to do pct in the first place. I'm merely going to be continuing with my regular weekly trt shots of Test. Then, WHY am' i going to be shut down here? Radar? Wootoom?

Let us make this an academic discussion for everyone's benefit here bros :)
 
Genetics i m jut going off what i experienced and dealt with after....it sucked! I still have a cough from this shit, i had no sex drive and i was taking Caber,HCGgenerate,HCG all the shit and i finally have recovered..you are doing it for 14 weeks..i couldnt imagine...but like you said the TRT prob shut you down already, to be honest running it for 14 weeks, shutting down is only one of the problems with Tren...



How many cycles have you done before bro?
 
Ozzie87 said:
but surly it wont matter about the tren shutting you down bad, you are on trt!

you have been shut down since you started trt

shut down meaning low natty test production.

as i see it if you do your normal trt dose after stopping tren you will feel ok as you will have test in your body.

obviously tren could fuck you up in other ways though
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Exactly my thoughts, Ozz..

The ' other ways ' thing is something i have to see through personally before saying anything lol...
 
Wootooom said:
Genetics i m jut going off what i experienced and dealt with after....it sucked! I still have a cough from this shit, i had no sex drive and i was taking Caber,HCGgenerate,HCG all the shit and i finally have recovered..you are doing it for 14 weeks..i couldnt imagine...but like you said the TRT prob shut you down already, to be honest running it for 14 weeks, shutting down is only one of the problems with Tren...



How many cycles have you done before bro?
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First off Wootoom, i thank you bro for sharing all those nasty effects tren gave you. I'm on guard so to speak. Now i know what "could" be the dangers and would be mentally prepared for them. Having said that, shut down is something that i'm really not worried about at this point, since my endogenous prod is already shut.

Only, because you are so strongly speaking about shutdown, what i propose to do is run the Test at blasting dosages for another 2 weeks thereabouts after stopping tren before getting on with normal trt dosages again. Makes sense?

I'm actually more concerned with those other sides you mentioned and am' getting mentally prepared to face them IF they appear. Reason i say IF is because each individual is made differently and reacts to different compounds differently. Therefore, i will know what MY sides are ONLY when i actually run it and see for myself which i most certainly intend to IF atleast for only once, in my life :)

Starting AAS has been a big dare for me and subsequently going on self imposed trt has only made the leap greater. No turning back now :chomp:
 
genetics said:
First off Wootoom, i thank you bro for sharing all those nasty effects tren gave you. I'm on guard so to speak. Now i know what "could" be the dangers and would be mentally prepared for them. Having said that, shut down is something that i'm really not worried about at this point, since my endogenous prod is already shut.

Only, because you are so strongly speaking about shutdown, what i propose to do is run the Test at blasting dosages for another 2 weeks thereabouts after stopping tren before getting on with normal trt dosages again. Makes sense?

I'm actually more concerned with those other sides you mentioned and am' getting mentally prepared to face them IF they appear. Reason i say IF is because each individual is made differently and reacts to different compounds differently. Therefore, i will know what MY sides are ONLY when i actually run it and see for myself which i most certainly intend to IF atleast for only once, in my life :)

Starting AAS has been a big dare for me and subsequently going on self imposed trt has only made the leap greater. No turning back now :chomp:
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Have you heard of Proviron? It's great stuff! Might be a substitute for Test...just a thought.
 
Wootooom said:
Have you heard of Proviron? It's great stuff! Might be a substitute for Test...just a thought.
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Not a single cycle of mine yet hasn't had Proviron bro. Infact, i wouldn't cycle ( blast in my case ) without running atleast 75mgs of Proviron ed. I do it for its shbg and hardening effects. Ahhh!!! Free Test :D
 
Wootooom said:
Genetics i m jut going off what i experienced and dealt with after....it sucked! I still have a cough from this shit, i had no sex drive and i was taking Caber,HCGgenerate,HCG all the shit and i finally have recovered..you are doing it for 14 weeks..i couldnt imagine...but like you said the TRT prob shut you down already, to be honest running it for 14 weeks, shutting down is only one of the problems with Tren...



How many cycles have you done before bro?
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I'm with Whoootom here, Tren killed my sex drive and nothing couldn't bring it back,i tried everything ,clomid,nova,proviron,cialis,tribulis,viagria,everything you could name,for PCT, i ran so much PCT over 12 months it wasn't funny ,i had to wait and recover natually,that took close to 2 yrs,and sometimes i still have minor issues,that can be fix by needto's HCGenerate ,thank god!

You may be one of the lucky one's just giving you my experience with tren,good luck playing russian roulette.
 
RADAR said:
I'm with Whoootom here, Tren killed my sex drive and nothing couldn't bring it back,i tried everything ,clomid,nova,proviron,cialis,tribulis,viagria,everything you could name,for PCT, i ran so much PCT over 12 months it wasn't funny ,i had to wait and recover natually,that took close to 2 yrs,and sometimes i still have minor issues,that can be fix by needto's HCGenerate ,thank god!

You may be one of the lucky one's just giving you my experience with tren,good luck playing russian roulette.
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Radar, as a quetion of academic interest, were you cycling ON and OFF while you faced these problems with tren OR were you on trt?
 
genetics said:
Not a single cycle of mine yet hasn't had Proviron bro. Infact, i wouldn't cycle ( blast in my case ) without running atleast 75mgs of Proviron ed. I do it for its shbg and hardening effects. Ahhh!!! Free Test :D
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Cant argue with free test lol..
 
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