AAS vet but GH newbie

[njmuscleguy]

Folks,

So anyone that knows me here knows that I'm no stranger to AAS. I've never tried GH before because honestly, I felt that it would be better suited for me once I hit my mid to late 30's... so here we are, and I'm getting my hands on a few Serostin (5mg) kits. I'd like some opinions / info from anyone with a respectable amount of experience with GH.

As a reminder:
36 years old
5'7"
180 lbs
10% bf

Goal is to put on some lean mass and harden up a bit (nothing dramatic in gains or fat loss that would require huge dosages!)

My questions:
1) I'm trying to decide between 3iu or 4iu daily, following the 5days on, 2 days off regimen. Is 3iu enough? would 4iu be that much more effective?

2) I've read that taking l-glutamine upon waking and l-arginine before bed help increase natural GH... any benefit of taking these while you're on a GH cycle? I will probably take some r-ALA to keep glucose levels down, since GH has been known to raise them.

3)I've tried IGF in the past and wasn't very impressed. I know that it's recommended in a GH cycle, but would the results be significantly better if IGF was in the mix? And do you HAVE to take insuline if you take IGF with GH? I don't really wanna consider taking insulin.

I'll take info / answers to any or all of these questions. Appreciate the feedback... THANKS!

 

[njmuscleguy]

Bump

 

[Pizzle27]

You seem like you have a good understanding of GH. I would NOT take insulin with GH. Too risky. I have heard of the 5 day on 2 off. I would run everyday. 4 ius as soon as you wake up and avoid carbs for about 90 min after dose. A pharmacist told me that there is no benefit to taking a 2 day break other than to save money. He did say there is no difference in taking 7 days a week vs 5. So that part is up to you. Many things will help raise your bodies levels of GH. Try to avoid sugars and especially before bed. Work out legs hard. Try and use BAC water to mix and be careful on mixing. Do not let water be forced into the powder. Let it roll down the sides and gently swirl till its clear. Keep in fridge and covered. Im sure you know that taking AAS with HGH will give you better results but GH alone will be great if you run for about 6 months. Sorry the post is all over the place. I just work up. Any more questions hit me up. Good luck and enjoy

 

[njmuscleguy]

Pizzle, I've read alot of that stuff and it's all great reminders, thank you! I realize that there is no benefit of taking the 2 days off... like you said, I was trying to be "economical" and extend the life of each kit. I'm hoping to run as close to 6 months as possible, and I wll definitely cycle in some AAS, in moderate amounts, if for no other reason than to get that synergy and give the GH a little boost.

Thanks again for the info!

 

[C0LUMB0]

Folks,

So anyone that knows me here knows that I'm no stranger to AAS. I've never tried GH before because honestly, I felt that it would be better suited for me once I hit my mid to late 30's... so here we are, and I'm getting my hands on a few Serostin (5mg) kits. I'd like some opinions / info from anyone with a respectable amount of experience with GH.

As a reminder:
36 years old
5'7"
180 lbs
10% bf

Goal is to put on some lean mass and harden up a bit (nothing dramatic in gains or fat loss that would require huge dosages!)

My questions:
1) I'm trying to decide between 3iu or 4iu daily, following the 5days on, 2 days off regimen. Is 3iu enough? would 4iu be that much more effective?

2) I've read that taking l-glutamine upon waking and l-arginine before bed help increase natural GH... any benefit of taking these while you're on a GH cycle? I will probably take some r-ALA to keep glucose levels down, since GH has been known to raise them.

3)I've tried IGF in the past and wasn't very impressed. I know that it's recommended in a GH cycle, but would the results be significantly better if IGF was in the mix? And do you HAVE to take insuline if you take IGF with GH? I don't really wanna consider taking insulin.

I'll take info / answers to any or all of these questions. Appreciate the feedback... THANKS!

Good luck with this bro. Having turned 38 last month ,i'm looking into jumping a 6 month run myself .
I see alot of folks recommend dosing at 2iu for the first 2-3 weeks then bumping it to 4iu.
5 on and 2 off will be the protocol i will be following also.
I havent ran IGF but definitely will be running a cycle or 2 of AAS .
Am sure you know that Insulin usage is not open to debate here ,like i said good luck and im subbed to your thread

 

[njmuscleguy]

Good luck with this bro. Having turned 38 last month ,i'm looking into jumping a 6 month run myself .
I see alot of folks recommend dosing at 2iu for the first 2-3 weeks then bumping it to 4iu.
5 on and 2 off will be the protocol i will be following also.
I havent ran IGF but definitely will be running a cycle or 2 of AAS .
Am sure you know that Insulin usage is not open to debate here ,like i said good luck and im subbed to your thread

Hey bud.... yah, so then we feel each other's pain, then... LITERALLY.. hahaha!

That sounds like a good idea: 2-3 iu's per day for the first few weeks, just to see how my body responds, then bump up to 4iu's. No IGF for me, but I will cycle in some moderate amounts of at least test. As for insulin, no worries, I don't wanna have that discussion anyway

Thanks for your input bro, much appreciated!

 

[njmuscleguy]

would love to hear more feedback of guy's daily dosages, and they're experiences

also any more opinions on injecting daily vs 5 days off, 2 days on

 

[Liquid 2009]

3-5 of legit stuff will make a difference. Don't split it up. Everyday.

 

[gwr15]

The one thing I am unclear of is do you have to refrigerate all of your HGH or just the HGH you have mixed with BAC water?

 

[Pizzle27]

Always keep GH cold. Before and after. I started with 2ius everyday for a week, then wen to 4 ius everyday. I would have went up to 6 ius if I could afford it. I would say 4 ius as minimum and 8 as max. 4-6 everyday should be a good place for most. Then my last 2 weeks I ended with 2 ius a day just to come off it.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I was curious myself... if you have your kits lying around for a while before you use them (and mix them), say about a few weeks or so....should they be kept in the fridge? freezer? or just a cool dark place? it's summer and all, so I wanna be sure

 

[caBEAST]

You'll frickin love GH!! I have used: serostim, nutropin,humatrope,saizen in the past and you will definately know if ur shits good pretty quickly...the pumps are frickin insane(almost too crazy)...I have gotten great results using 3-4iu's/day 4 days on, 3 days off...this was a very common way to use when I used it(1998-2002ish)...when I took nutropin(from Walgreens), it was 110% legit and when I went over 4iu's the pump was so bad it was hard to finish even half my workout and my frickin hands would always "fall asleep"..I did use insulin on and off but stopped the day I felt like I was literally going to die(prolly was)...I would definately use GH again the same way I did before bc it worked well so why change it...thin skin, roadmap vascularity, crazy pumps, the abilty to stay lean and feel full(muscles) ALL the time...just a few awesome side effects I experienced!!! Good luck brother, you look frickin great already cant wait to see the "after GH" pics!!!

 

[njmuscleguy]

You'll frickin love GH!! I have used: serostim, nutropin,humatrope,saizen in the past and you will definately know if ur shits good pretty quickly...the pumps are frickin insane(almost too crazy)...I have gotten great results using 3-4iu's/day 4 days on, 3 days off...this was a very common way to use when I used it(1998-2002ish)...when I took nutropin(from Walgreens), it was 110% legit and when I went over 4iu's the pump was so bad it was hard to finish even half my workout and my frickin hands would always "fall asleep"..I did use insulin on and off but stopped the day I felt like I was literally going to die(prolly was)...I would definately use GH again the same way I did before bc it worked well so why change it...thin skin, roadmap vascularity, crazy pumps, the abilty to stay lean and feel full(muscles) ALL the time...just a few awesome side effects I experienced!!! Good luck brother, you look frickin great already cant wait to see the "after GH" pics!!!

thanks bro!!! dude, your post got me SALIVATING now... I can't friggin' wait! HAHAHA!

 

[duramax6]

I currently am on 2iu a day. I do it first thing in the am. I also am doing 1000iu of hcg a week combined with 3cc cycp and 1cc of deca also throw in twice a week of arimidex. I have heard on how 2iu is pretty much basic 3-4 you should start getting more towards bone regrowth and tendon repair. So when I can I am boosting it to 4. Like Simone said before you do not need two days off only helps save money cause the good stuff costs a lot. Results from it are not like what you are used too. Takes a few months. I was told by my doc to keep it refrigerated regardless of reconstutied or not.