AAS usage opening the door to other hardcore drugs????

[immortalis]

Heres the deal...

Once you try an illegel substance, and you notice no real negative sides... especially if you are smart and educate yourself and be safe and enjoy all the positives from the illegal substance, you realize that perhaps other illegal substances aren't as bad as what the media and society has made them out to be.

This opens your mind up to try new things.


That is why a lot of people say that weed is a gateway drug, that opens the door to more hardcore drug use. Well ofcourse it does. When you smoke and get roasted, but dont end up jumping off a fuckin building like we all were forcefed to think would happen, you think to yourself maybe those other things arent that bad either and I should at least give them a try.

This is exactly why I have tried as many drugs as I have tried. Because the ones I tried early, as long as I was smart about it... really didnt have any negative effects on me. So I was more open to at least experiment with new things.

 

[phatrr]

If you're serious, then do yourself a favor: stop abusing all substances, including steroids, alcohol, and coke. Just stop, don't look back, and embrace those things and values in your life which are positive and help you to grow.

 

[growthspurt]

If you're serious, then do yourself a favor: stop abusing all substances, including steroids, alcohol, and coke. Just stop, don't look back, and embrace those things and values in your life which are positive and help you to grow.

If you're directing this to me, I don't think Trying something once is "abusing". As far as the Alcohol and Rec drugs are concerned anyway.

 

[JCMC]

Well said I agree 100%

I think you need to find a reporter and a psycologist and confess all of your dark secrets to them...that way the psychologist can cure your ill's and then the reporter can make another story about the bad side of steriods.

I quote you "However, since I crossed over to the "Darkside" a couple of years ago, I'm finding it harder and harder to stay on the straight and narrow."
I call bullshit on this. Your staying on the "straight and narrow" when it comes to "recreational drugs" has NOTHING to do with AAS use. You may want to blame it on AAS so you can have a justifiable reason...but it is still a load of crap.
If you can't resist recreational drugs, then the problem is in you mind, NOT in you AAS use.

And lastly, while I do agree that AAS is just as illegal (according to the law) as weed, coke, or others...and you feel like you are "already a lawbreaker, so what the hell"....If that is the case, since you are already a lawbreaker, you might want to rob a bank if you need some cash...you may want to commit murder if someone does not agree with your point of view...Hey you are already a lawbreaker...so what the hell....God Damn bro, Do you know how childish that sounds??? Just because you have done, or are doing something that is technically against the law, then that makes you want to do other things that are against the law?

I can assure you that I don't want to use coke simply because I have broken the law for speeding and gotten away with it.
You see the comparison? You may have problems elsewhere if you cannot resist temptation...but the problem is not AAS use.

 

[BigCracker]

Once you jab a needle in your ass, doing a line of blow or sparking up a joint doesn't seem like too big of a deal. 90% of the AS users I know do recreational drugs-and did them well before the ever started AS though. Moderation is key-never allow any vice to be your master and you'll be fine. However this is much easier said than done. Addiction comes in many forms and often there's little warning before it bites you in the ass.

And furthermore-fuck illegal. There's a big difference between illegal and immoral. Anyone that allows the govt to dictate to them how they are/aren't allowed to kill themselves is a complete moron. Ex. our society's mentality is Prozac, vicoden, alcohol, tobacco = good and AS, weed, cocaine = bad. Absolutely fucking retarded. It's socially acceptable to use antidepressants for your emotional issues and take PK's for your fucked up lower back. Then you go home and smoke cigarettes, drink a few shots, beat the wife. Wake up, repeat. You're an upstanding member of society. But if you use AS, and/or use any other illegal drug you are a loser and a threat to mankind as we know it.

 

[growthspurt]

Once you jab a needle in your ass, doing a line of blow or sparking up a joint doesn't seem like too big of a deal. 90% of the AS users I know do recreational drugs-and did them well before the ever started AS though. Moderation is key-never allow any vice to be your master and you'll be fine. However this is much easier said than done. Addiction comes in many forms and often there's little warning before it bites you in the ass.

Exactly!
I can't beleive all the people who use gear who think it's not some form of recreational drugs! I got news for you, unless you are a pro BB or athlete, you're(we) using this shit recreationally!!!!! Anytime some bro grets on here and mentions they use some recreational drug, you get these tools coming out the woodwork asking why do they want to do that to their body. And my body is a shrine type of bullshit! Steroids are not "good" for you either! And yet we use them anyway and 99% experience some negative side effect at one time or another from AAS!
It's the pot calling the kettle black kind of thing.

 

[BigCracker]

It's the pot calling the kettle black kind of thing.

True dat. I've said this before and I'll say it again, AS, Rx drugs, recreational drugs, alcohol, tobacco, gambling, food, the internet, sex, porn, shopping, and even religion-it's all dope. Too much of any of these things can cause problems.

I had an interesting conversation with the mngr of the 7-11 by my crib the other day. I was buying a Red Bull and I noticed the spank magazines were gone from behind the counter. I asked the mngr what happened to them. He said he was the new mngr and didn't want porn in his store cuz he didn't want "those" kind of customers in the store. I said ok-then what about the other forms of sin that you sell? What about lotto tickets, tobacco, alcohol, and rolling papers? I said if you're gonna be a saint, it needs to be straight across the board. I'd respect the fact that you refused to sell all of these femeral pleasures-but instead you pick and choose. I guess that's why you're the boss??? <smartass tone>

Anyway, I went in there this AM and the spank mags were back on the counter. lol It probably didn't help that I said all of this to the manager in front of 3 of his employees. Either I embarassed him or he opened his eyes-mission accomplished. I hate hypocrites.

 

[cboogsrun]

my personal thoughts are backwards to yours. I did hardcore drugs before I juiced. Not that I did a lot of them, it just made juicing not seem as bad. I was juicing when I was lifting. Lifting is healthy so juicing can't be unhealthy. Well that was the logic behind it. However I do feel I am healthy when I'm on, I do light cycles especially compared to what I see other guys do. Just my 2 cents.

BOOGS

Hey Brothas and Sistas,

I feel like shit and need to get this off my chest.

Last night I went out for a few beers with my friends, and I don't do that very often. To make a long story short, I bumped into a few friends I haven't seen since High School(I'm 30yrs old) and I was pretty well jagged. They ended up hauling out some cocain and cut a few lines. They offered some to me and without even hesitating, I snorted a big line of that shit!

Here's the thing, other than AAS, I never have done a hard drug in my life or had any desire to. I don't know why last night would be any different? I never use steroids as an excuse to fuck up......... However, since I crossed over to the "Darkside" a couple of years ago, I'm finding it harder and harder to stay on the straight and narrow. I've always made responsible decisions for myself and now it seems there is alot of grey area between right and wrong.

Whether or not we think it's justified, the cold, hard, reality is AAS are just as illegal as weed, coke, etc... In a way it's like I know I'm already a law breaker with the roids, so what the hell? Right/wrong, i'm not really sure today? But take another look at the title of my thread because I'm sure as hell asking myself this today. Thanks for hearing me out.

 

[growthspurt]

True dat. I've said this before and I'll say it again, AS, Rx drugs, recreational drugs, alcohol, tobacco, gambling, food, the internet, sex, porn, shopping, and even religion-it's all dope. Too much of any of these things can cause problems.

I had an interesting conversation with the mngr of the 7-11 by my crib the other day. I was buying a Red Bull and I noticed the spank magazines were gone from behind the counter. I asked the mngr what happened to them. He said he was the new mngr and didn't want porn in his store cuz he didn't want "those" kind of customers in the store. I said ok-then what about the other forms of sin that you sell? What about lotto tickets, tobacco, alcohol, and rolling papers? I said if you're gonna be a saint, it needs to be straight across the board. I'd respect the fact that you refused to sell all of these femeral pleasures-but instead you pick and choose. I guess that's why you're the boss??? <smartass tone>

Anyway, I went in there this AM and the spank mags were back on the counter. lol It probably didn't help that I said all of this to the manager in front of 3 of his employees.

Very true Bro! Good example with that story. I may be a Dumb-Ass, as Needtogetas put up top, but I'm not a hypocrit! I think as long as a bro comes correct with his problems and is willing to seek advice here......then the least we could do is help by offering opinions. Good/Bad........
I'm not looking for people to blow smoke up my ass and always agree with what I'm saying(like Satch). Look what Goldprospector and Needto had to say. Some dudes would get all defensive about that shit. Not me, the other side of the coin is vital to great discussion! Thanks for your input!

 

[growthspurt]

my personal thoughts are backwards to yours. I did hardcore drugs before I juiced. Not that I did a lot of them, it just made juicing not seem as bad. I was juicing when I was lifting. Lifting is healthy so juicing can't be unhealthy. Well that was the logic behind it. However I do feel I am healthy when I'm on, I do light cycles especially compared to what I see other guys do. Just my 2 cents.

BOOGS

Interesting. Thanks for your thoughts.