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A short war? I suspect not.
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primetime21
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bump to show how wrong those people were when they said the war was going to be hard and long.
Bikini Mod
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VicTusDeuS said:
Ummmm wrong. I know of MANY Brazilians who come to this country for a short time, make USD and go home with a little xtra cash for an EASIER way of life.
I do know of a few who did stay but who now regret that decision to a certain degree.
I am not saying that the US isn't a grand country, because it is. But what many Americans don't realize is that this is not the center of the universe while the rest of the world's countries are THIRD WORLD.
Think that all you like. Sorry, but it just ain't so.
CanadianCripple
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Hmph! I actually thought Hans had shown up to try & tell us how Iraqi's are now being forced to act happy by US troops. 
Brazil... interesting country too. Here's another example of a country with vast wealth in natural resources & SHOULD be well off, but is not, do to a backwards political system & an undereducated population.
Brazil... interesting country too. Here's another example of a country with vast wealth in natural resources & SHOULD be well off, but is not, do to a backwards political system & an undereducated population.
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I have never been to Brazil so I can only go by the Brazilian people that I have met. And from what they tell me and form I have seen, the ratio of the women who come to this country to "make a quick buck" to the ratio of women who come to this country to immigrate is high. They come here with no intention of staying. Bust their behinds to make USD and go home.
I think that the majority of Americans are under the impression that THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD is struggling in slums, starving with no hope of a better life. (Perhaps this is a gross exaggeration but I think you guys get what I am saying.) And that just isn't true.
As a matter of fact I have friends in many other countries and they actually feel badly for Americans. They believe that Americans bust their asses and struggle to gain as many material possessions as their money can afford then drop dead at an early age from stress, overwork and chasing an unattainable goal.
There are many countries where citizens work and have MORE than enough and value their FREE TIME more than anything else. They take time away from work during the day (as in long lunches, etc) and ALWAYS vacation several weeks out of the year. They also have good health care that ALL have access to (and yes, of course, those with more money have access to better EVERYTHING) and their crime rate is no worse than what is ours.
Is the American dollar king? Yes, in most cases yes, it is. You'll get no arguement from me there. BUT what one has to do in this country in order to gain that dollar and what they can have for it in exchange just isn't what it once was...
I think that the majority of Americans are under the impression that THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD is struggling in slums, starving with no hope of a better life. (Perhaps this is a gross exaggeration but I think you guys get what I am saying.) And that just isn't true.
As a matter of fact I have friends in many other countries and they actually feel badly for Americans. They believe that Americans bust their asses and struggle to gain as many material possessions as their money can afford then drop dead at an early age from stress, overwork and chasing an unattainable goal.
There are many countries where citizens work and have MORE than enough and value their FREE TIME more than anything else. They take time away from work during the day (as in long lunches, etc) and ALWAYS vacation several weeks out of the year. They also have good health care that ALL have access to (and yes, of course, those with more money have access to better EVERYTHING) and their crime rate is no worse than what is ours.
Is the American dollar king? Yes, in most cases yes, it is. You'll get no arguement from me there. BUT what one has to do in this country in order to gain that dollar and what they can have for it in exchange just isn't what it once was...
jnuts
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primetime21 said:
While we might have a short term victory with Baghdad falling, this war is far from over. It is going quicky and well at this stage, but that end state solution - where the State dept. goes to work and not the mil.... it's a bit more murky.
end states are a bitch.
Testosterone boy
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jnuts said:
Yes....it will take time to make it appear that we must go into Syria.
atlantabiolab
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bikinimom said:
This paragraph just showed that the US is superior in freedom of opportunity (right of pursuit of happiness). If Brazil was equal to the US, then there would be no need for Brazilians, or any other citizens, to come to the US, work for a strong currency and then return home where the buying power of the dollar is greater. This shows that the ability to ATTAIN possessions, security, leisure, etc. is not as great as in the US. Any American can do this same thing, it is just that countries such as Brazil do not offer the same protections to civil liberty that the US affords.
The countries that you speak of, mainly European, do alot their citizens many privileges of leisure, at the cost of regulation and reduced freedom. The conditions of overwork and stress that you mention are self-inflicted, they are not due to forced labour, they are a by-product of man's desires. But in the US, you are free to pursue work for whatever motivation you have. If you desire more money, then you can work for more, although the US is modeling itself on the European system with its tax disincentives, and reducing this desire . Many European countries are restricting their citizens from working overtime, France is actually penalizing those who do this. Is this freedom? Is this the right to pursue happiness and property? You stated that these country's citizens have "MORE than enough", what is "more than enough"? How do you decide what is enough for another person. This is the mentality of socialism, which states that people should only have their needs met, not their desires.
Talking to co-workers from Germany, they criticise Americans for our work ethic and "greed" for material possessions, and they believe that they have consciously chosen to avoid this lifestyle, yet upon further questioning it becomes obvious that they have not chosen this, but are prevented from "want" because it is often placed outside of their reach. The cost of living is much higher in many European countries than in the US: homes, cars, gas, etc., all through government restrictions. Land regulations increase the cost of building homes, which increases the cost of available homes. The cost of gas is higher, due to government regulations on pollution, plus added taxes, which reduces the desire of one to travel or have several cars.
Visiting Germany, one can see the benefit of government distribution of wealth and cradle to grave security: lack of work ethic and reduced availability of goods. Go to Germany and try to find a store comparable to a Super Walmart. You can't find a store that is open after 6:00 pm, not to mention on some days the government does not allow stores to open, and if you do find one open your choices are menial. A German co-worker visiting the US was astounded at how many cheeses WalMart carried!!! Is that the freedom of the socialist market? Visit a restaurant or cafe and see how long it takes to be waited on. Workers take 20-30 minutes to wait on a customer, yet locals see nothing wrong with this.
People need to realize that each man is dependant on his own happiness and possessions, not the responsibility of the nation. With freedom comes responsibilty. If you desire security, that you do not provide yourself, government will grant it at the expense of liberty.
