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A New Arnold is coming

OMEGA

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I am doing round 2 with the ORIGINAL young man I trained several months ago and I have NEVER seen anything like it.

This is the New Breed Of Bodybuilder just wait............

The Power of the Mind and Body for a New Way to Real Results...........

he Kept 75% of his gains from last time seen here:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7522538#post7522538

There are some in The Current OMEGA project that I believe in as much.

I am get excited about this :) so I hope its ok to share this!

Wait for his pics in about 6-7 weeks

"Illusion NOT delusion" in bodybuilding

:artist:
 
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OMEGA said:
I am doing round 2 with the ORIGINAL young man I trained several months ago and I have NEVER seen anything like it.

This is the New Breed Of Bodybuilder just wait............

The Power of the Mind and Body for a New Way to Real Results...........

he Kept 75% of his gains from last time seen here:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7522538#post7522538


I am get excited about this :) so I hope its ok to share this!

Wait for his pics in about 6-7 weeks

"Illusion NOT delusion" in bodybuilding

:artist:



what are his stats and what was his first cycle?
 
hes about 5'8 170 I believe

Cycle = N/A since his net gain was 12 lbs

this time I think he will add another 8 but thats IT, I dont want him to get any bigger after this.
 
thanks!

Just wait for round 2! he is Improving like clock work
he is Such a well tempered person too( way better then me lol)


I hope the pics do him justice too!
, he bringing something extra this time, he just looks clsoe to the same at his peak already but more grainy and sharp

its nice when you can follow a philosophy and a rule framework and Get results predictably.
 
Follow it by the Book and you will be that version of yourself in Maximum mode

and each time you repeat the sequence ( non linear peaking);)

you will Bring much more each time till you eventually pinnacle

ON or OFF
 
Come on Omega. You owe it to your followers to post up his cycle. Im sure he will give you permission to do so. I have a young guy under my wing I would appreciate this info. PM me if appropriate. Tks nz
 
nzrodney said:
Come on Omega. You owe it to your followers to post up his cycle. Im sure he will give you permission to do so. I have a young guy under my wing I would appreciate this info. PM me if appropriate. Tks nz


A mild cycle would be a great aid to anyone. However, drugs are absolutely secondary to proper nutrition, good excercise, discipline, genetics.
 
DJ_UFO said:
A mild cycle would be a great aid to anyone. However, drugs are absolutely secondary to proper nutrition, good excercise, discipline, genetics.
yes sir....man the diet makes a huge difference....

but fuck the juice just makes it even better
 
DJ_UFO said:
A mild cycle would be a great aid to anyone. However, drugs are absolutely secondary to proper nutrition, good excercise, discipline, genetics.
We have all those things in place. Male meso(primarly) 6', 213lbs, training 2 years, 19 yrs, great genetics, absolute dedication.
 
how bad do you want it? Thats what i ask my self every day.
 
masonweitzel said:
how bad do you want it? Thats what i ask my self every day.


exactly which is why the Anabolics are moot .

We had competitors who are Clearly ON say that it does not matter if he was ON or OFF ( the young man) do to the Net weight gain.

There was a 12 total of pounds gained
and almost everyone can do that Naturally in time and they can have that "look" so long as they stay Lena or Get leaner.
 
I need to change my diet. Im eating like crap, but i don't have to much bf.
 
DJ_UFO said:
A mild cycle would be a great aid to anyone. However, drugs are absolutely secondary to proper nutrition, good excercise, discipline, genetics.


just read this ! BINGO hit the nail on the head
 
OMEGA said:
exactly which is why the Anabolics are moot .

We had competitors who are Clearly ON say that it does not matter if he was ON or OFF ( the young man) do to the Net weight gain.

There was a 12 total of pounds gained
and almost everyone can do that Naturally in time and they can have that "look" so long as they stay Lena or Get leaner.
I respect your decission not to discuss your trainees more personal aspects of his program. I wish you well in phase two, another 12 lbs would be a nice goal. THen I will be very interested in looking at your training regime. cheers, nz
 
how are the young man's wheels ? any chance on before and after pics of his lower body so we can see the progress at the end of this phase ? thigh, hams and especially calf development would be great to see how your program works in these areas.
 
I can get Calf Pics they are Awesome

he follows very basic routine for calves I gave him which most people would get pissed abotu if I posted it lol one that the current clients use and I think really like as it different.

his Quads and hams are good but I I only have him do an off season rotuine for them becuase once legs get big they stay big or are easir and easier to get bigger

6-10 months from now I will really trick out his quads
 
The kid looks Money. Real nice shape and developement. Little waist and broad shoulders. I got two questions for you. You got him hittin each BP 1x or 2x a week? And does he gom to failure on every set?
 
Just gonna keep it real here.

First, off props to Omega for training the guy and nice results, BUT...

He's no Arnold, not even close. There will never be another Arnold becaue of 3 reasons.

#1 Arnold had one in a million genetics.

#2 Too many people train now and the gene pool is simply too big for any one man to stand out that much.

#3 Arnold was one of the first guys to push the envelope in terms of dosages. Now, there isn't anything that hasn't been done.

It's obvious that kid has great muscle bellys and a terrific frame. But to be honest, I see guys like that all over the city. Put him in an NPC show and suddenly, he'll just look like one of the pack. No disrespect intended. It's just that thinking your physique will make you a star is the most unrealistic endevor anyone can take on. He'd be better off staying right where he is and making some money doing Men's Health type photo shoots -- if he's lucky.

Tatyana? Your opinion?
 
Nelson Montana said:
He's no Arnold, not even close.

I am sorry he will be BETTER then Arnold

thats what I meant:)

its ok I enjoy the NAY sayers as they occupy a house of doubt, no offense.........

And by the way he wont be "lucky" he will make his way through his own power of Character
 
Slyder190 said:
The kid looks Money.


Exactly and to thik this is only with 1 year of proper lifting under his belt and 2 years total ( I just found this out yesterday I never asked him)

This second round he is bring more and more, thats when I knew:

1: my philosophies ARE the fastest and most efficient

2: this young man will be a great power one day and I have already begun to tell him that those whom are not of excellence will try to bring him down do to their own flaws..... and that to feel sorry for them.
And to not be angry when they try to hurt you. just deflect it and see it for what it really is...

I tell him just be of Excellence as you naturally are, and be good and work hard.
 
OMEGA said:
I am sorry he will be BETTER then Arnold

thats what I meant:)

its ok I enjoy the NAY sayers as they occupy a house of doubt, no offense.........

And by the way he wont be "lucky" he will make his way through his own power of Character

Character has nothing to do with it. He can be willing to train 10 hours a day, there's only so far you can go with it. Again, I have utmost respect for the training ethic and your commitment to his improvement. I'm not a naysayer. I was just addressing some realities.
 
sorry :(
I did not mean to be rude if I sounded like it, I just really feel affectionate for the young man and anyone I help for that matter.

And when you see his ARM PICS it will be hard to say you have ever seen anything liek it.

hence me saying " I have never seen anything like it" :) even I took a double take
and I see bodybuilding pics DAILY


I do respect your input on the Mens Health Trajectory as being the most valuable
thankyou
 
They are COMING :)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( he will hold a bottle of LIPOFLAME too ;)

He loves LIPOFLAME but Amplify02 is too strong for him so he doe snto want to hold a bottle of it lol

I guess I can take mid point pics again

but I prefer to wait till he PEAKS in about 6-7 week per our design

Its most startling that way
 
Looking forward to seeing them. just wait to show pics until he is at the point you think he should be in weeks 6-7. It will make it mean more. Keep it up Omega.
 
OMEGA great work with this guy keep it up...Amazing genetics. Best of luck to the both of you! NICE WORK!
 
gslben said:
Uhm.....That kid's frame is tiny
It's not all about frame. Look at the muscle developement and the nice v-taper, delts, etc.....Look how little Franco Columbos frame was but he was huge in the same respect. It's all about symetry
 
BOWTECH said:
It's not all about frame. Look at the muscle developement and the nice v-taper, delts, etc.....Look how little Franco Columbos frame was but he was huge in the same respect. It's all about symetry


True. But to take the hypothetical point to it's conclusion ...what would it take for the world to recognize someone so great they're unbeatable?

Of course when Arnold did it, a million people wanted to look like Arnold. What it would take today would have to be so monstrous, hardly no one would want to look like him. It would just be considered a freakish deformity.

I say it'll take someone 400 pounds with 4% bf. If that walked on stage, it would be like Sergio in his prime where it was like," put down the pencils, this contest is over." And again, no direspect to Omega, but this kid ain't that.

I maintain, he should look into a career as a fitness model. He has great aesthetics.
 
OMEGA said:
sorry :(
I did not mean to be rude if I sounded like it, I just really feel affectionate for the young man and anyone I help for that matter.

And when you see his ARM PICS it will be hard to say you have ever seen anything liek it.

hence me saying " I have never seen anything like it" :) even I took a double take
and I see bodybuilding pics DAILY


I do respect your input on the Mens Health Trajectory as being the most valuable
thankyou


Your opinion is very valuable here. I saw what that guy looked like and it was freaking amazing the gains he made and I can't wait to see the next phase. Seriously you are a genius in my opinion. My only question is if he is going to be the next Arnold he better either have the accent or be working on it lol. But seriously can't wait to see pics of progress. Any chance you can post the cycle? Or if you did already I'll check prior posts.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Omega, but this kid ain't that.

.


As I said he will be better:)

whether any one believes or not is not an issue.

The term "New Arnold" for me means someone of greatness, that will pave the way for a NEW AGE of Bodybuilder, fitness model Whatever you want to call it.

The Young man is so intelligent in his own right that I think it will pave the way for something new

just gut feeling here.......
 
to be clear on My Defintion:

Lee Haney was a "new Arnold", as Was Yates, as was Flex

the kid IS a Bodybuilder , and is part of something new a "next step" if you will

we are just not fully aware of what that is yet:) but there is Something here, and even I can see it.
 
Trendsetter21 said:
Your opinion is very valuable here. I saw what that guy looked like and it was freaking amazing the gains he made and I can't wait to see the next phase. Seriously you are a genius in my opinion. My only question is if he is going to be the next Arnold he better either have the accent or be working on it lol. But seriously can't wait to see pics of progress. Any chance you can post the cycle? Or if you did already I'll check prior posts.


thanks fo the VERY kind words, he has no accent lololll

Also expect the best! he is bringing more to the table this time as well, I have never seen anything like.......

its not Mass, it The Illusion of it as we train, and that illusion goes hand in hand with a sustainable pattern of lifting that is good for you.

The training is a kind of training people could do well into their 60's this is why I am soo happy

its a Merger of Better Training, with Intelligence that just happens to be Great for you.

once we put in ON paper all eyes will turn to it, and hopefully HELP alot of people.


I cant say how much I appreciate the well wishing the "pulling for people" is a great thing. And raises the bar for us all.
 
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He reminds me of Mr. C3 when he was young. He was 144lbs at 6'4 and went to 190 in a matter of months and then kept growing and growing, even while natural. He just has this incredible shape (tiny waist, small joints) that even at weights of 240-260 he looks much bigger. I def. agree with illusion being the name of the game. Look at Flex Wheeler, he was 215 sometimes and looked better than guys that were 250 plus!

Great work with this young man, I know you will turn him into something incredible. All your advice has helped my husband so much over the years. A training program you gave him 4 years ago is still part of our routines. :) Great work Omega, bravo!
 
I miss you and C3 :(

It was said that Flex and Ray were actually nto that big in person, and that it was the marketability of their look that set them, apart

hence people like c3 and this young man
 
its about 1/4 done :)

thankyou Sir :) it will actually be more like a mini- E book

just no promise on DATE

I cannot say how thankful I am and for the openness here and the Trust the Current Clients have extend
to be able to know that results will come and teaching feels soo good

its really is something Special when people are willing to Trust and apply things with an open mind
BUT WITH BELIEF


as far as the wrighting ,
no reason to fill it with Overly complex or deliberately obtuse thought meant to be overly complex as filler hence why it will be an mini- E book
 
Omega I congratulate you on looking into the vision of future bodybuilding. Whilst I appreciate Nelson's point of view, I do believe we are at a point where the giant mass monsters may not always cut it in the business. Maybe a return to shape, definition, muscle hardness, & symetery is what is needed to reignite competitions & general interest. If you have developed a training program that creates atheletes with this as an objective, you may be onto a winner. Can I put my order in now for shares??!!
 
nzrodney said:
Omega I congratulate you on looking into the vision of future bodybuilding. Whilst I appreciate Nelson's point of view, I do believe we are at a point where the giant mass monsters may not always cut it in the business. Maybe a return to shape, definition, muscle hardness, & symetery is what is needed to reignite competitions & general interest. If you have developed a training program that creates atheletes with this as an objective, you may be onto a winner. Can I put my order in now for shares??!!


thankyou for your thoughts:)

I am not fully aware yet but something good is happening on a grass roots level in the Gym and here.

I am not quite sure whats happening but "something" IS happening.
I can tell...


Even at my gym we are making a "disturbance" if you will,
meaning clients or people who want to know more come to us with excitement. Really eager to learn, and just nice. its a great environment.
it boils down to me finally communicating how to get form point A to B at Light Speed.
This 'Way" if you will came form years of mistake I made ( which I am still undoing ) When this young man came along he TRUSTED and listened to EVERYTHING and now look whats happening!@

I have done this with a handful of others and now am doing it with a Real Class and its doing GREAT so the knowledge is finally becoming Refined.

Oddly enough the most caustic people to us a have been other Trainers who seem to operate on odd level of thinking? Why would they say bad things abotu us? or try to bring us down? when we are PRogressissing sooo FAST and have real ideas, NEW ideas
they are not happy with the growing attention we are getting by those eager to LEARN, I just dont understand?
 
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c3salonikaangelgr said:
All your advice has helped my husband so much over the years. A training program you gave him 4 years ago is still part of our routines. :) Great work Omega, bravo!


wow 4 years already ! :)
 
OMEGA said:
thankyou for your thoughts:)

I am not fully aware yet but something good is happening on a grass roots level in the Gym and here.

I am not quite sure whats happening but "something" IS happening.
I can tell...


Even at my gym we are making a "disturbance" if you will,
meaning clients or people who want to know more come to us with excitement. Really eager to learn, and just nice. its a great environment.
it boils down to me finally communicating how to get form point A to B at Light Speed.
This 'Way" if you will came form years of mistake I made ( which I am still undoing ) When this young man came along he TRUSTED and listened to EVERYTHING and put in writing I said and now look whats happening!@

I have done this with a handful of others and now am doing it with a Real Class and its doing GREAT so the knowledge is finally becoming Refined.

Oddly enough the most caustic people to us a have been other Trainers who seem to operate on odd level of thinking? Why would they say bad things abotu us? or try to bring us down? when we are PRogressissing sooo FAST and have real ideas, NEW ideas
they are not happy with the growing attention we are getting by those eager to LEARN, I just dont understand?
Well Omega, you & I know that there are many trainers in the industry that are operating their own agendas & these are mainly ego based. It comes down to getting more business & more money. There is no connection established between trainer & client. Often the trainer cannnot adequately access the individuals needs, aspirations, & physical abilities let alone the emotional, mental & spiritual aspects of the person. Hense we see 90% failure rate. I was talking today with one of my PT friends & we were discussing this very matter & what it would take to inspire people to do better with their fitness programs & their lives. He has a 90% success rate with his clients. AS far as your program goes, I will keep watching your threads & look forward with interest in how your systems play out, as I feel they may be a part of what my friend & I are looking to put into a radically new way of looking at the industry. Cheers, nz
 
nzrodney said:
Well Omega, you & I know that there are many trainers in the industry that are operating their own agendas & these are mainly ego based. It comes down to getting more business & more money. There is no connection established between trainer & client. Often the trainer cannnot adequately access the individuals needs, aspirations, & physical abilities let alone the emotional, mental & spiritual aspects of the person. Hense we see 90% failure rate. I was talking today with one of my PT friends & we were discussing this very matter & what it would take to inspire people to do better with their fitness programs & their lives. He has a 90% success rate with his clients. AS far as your program goes, I will keep watching your threads & look forward with interest in how your systems play out, as I feel they may be a part of what my friend & I are looking to put into a radically new way of looking at the industry. Cheers, nz


I will tell you this about The Omega Project and how Omega is running it. He has establisheda good relationship with all of us. The forum is actually fun. We can openly ask questions w/o feeling like we will get flamed or shut down.

The atmosphere he has created is like the one your friend sounds like he has with his clients. This is why I swing off his nuts. :rainbow: LOL you know what i mean though. His products and the way he helps people shows alot. I am only on wk 3 of his program and can see a difference already, granted not huge gains yet but noticable after only three weeks.

It is good to see people like your friend and yourself trying to change things. i see the same trainers at my gym and how they interact with thier clients. makes me sick. They are quick and dont give them the attention they need. They use poor form and the trainer doesnt correct it. They are talking to others. But you better believe when the chick is hot the have thier hands on thier back making sure they are using good form standing behind them watching them do squats. Its sad.
 
errn247 said:
I will tell you this about The Omega Project and how Omega is running it. He has establisheda good relationship with all of us. The forum is actually fun. We can openly ask questions w/o feeling like we will get flamed or shut down.

The atmosphere he has created is like the one your friend sounds like he has with his clients. This is why I swing off his nuts. :rainbow: LOL you know what i mean though. His products and the way he helps people shows alot. I am only on wk 3 of his program and can see a difference already, granted not huge gains yet but noticable after only three weeks.

It is good to see people like your friend and yourself trying to change things. i see the same trainers at my gym and how they interact with thier clients. makes me sick. They are quick and dont give them the attention they need. They use poor form and the trainer doesnt correct it. They are talking to others. But you better believe when the chick is hot the have thier hands on thier back making sure they are using good form standing behind them watching them do squats. Its sad.
errn, I'm very pleased that you are making good progress. I have a little to do with another nzer "Goku" whos doing the program down here.. Like you we see the trainers doing the same thing in our gyms & gym management only too happy to let people fall off the end because they got their $1500 a year sub anyway. Even the top trainer in my gym who is a national BB champion & charges like a wounded bull, is guilty of this. Good wishes for your Omega inspired training program. Keep posting your progress as I am interested in knowing how you go. nz
 
nzrodney said:
errn, I'm very pleased that you are making good progress. I have a little to do with another nzer "Goku" whos doing the program down here.. Like you we see the trainers doing the same thing in our gyms & gym management only too happy to let people fall off the end because they got their $1500 a year sub anyway. Even the top trainer in my gym who is a national BB champion & charges like a wounded bull, is guilty of this. Good wishes for your Omega inspired training program. Keep posting your progress as I am interested in knowing how you go. nz


, yeh its awesome training, something you would have never seen or used before, omega has good bonds with us too, i want omega to push me from point a to b,

ps nzrod, keep in touch through pm bro

peace
 
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