A little help???? Please

[Ezekiel]

thanks for info... but everyone knows it is wrong ... it sucks in order to make it to that level at some positions if you arent blessed with natural genes then you have to turn to something else. Ive been told by many ppl that this 25 lbs is what is holding me back and i dont want to look back in 20 years and say damn... i could have made it... Im not talkin about juicing for the rest of my life but please dont close your eyes and say wrong, wrong, wrong when you know that they are in sports every day... and are perceived as the element for success...

Is that 500/ week? so tues, thurs at 250?

And the forma stanzol ive seen where it is started the last 2 weeks of cycle and continues from say week 8 or 10.... to week 12 or 14? is that correct

OK... all BS aside, if you are willing to take the risk then:

Make sure you have all your ancillaries and PCT shit lined up BEFORE you start your cycle.

go w/ 500 test E a wk/ in two shots. ie. Mon. & Thurs.
Possibly even kick start the whole thing w/ dbol for 4 wks. dosed at 30mgs a day.

It's a big risk, but you're certainly not the only one doing it!

 

[nbfb52]

k cool thanks for the info.
Ive saw a few posts back something about forma stanzol and ive researched it for a good PCT and plenty of ppl say they like it so i am going to get it ordered monday.
Im going to check into the dbol to would i need to take any PCTs like nolvedex after the first 4 weeks or just wait until the end?

 

[Ezekiel]

k cool thanks for the info.
Ive saw a few posts back something about forma stanzol and ive researched it for a good PCT and plenty of ppl say they like it so i am going to get it ordered monday.
Im going to check into the dbol to would i need to take any PCTs like nolvedex after the first 4 weeks or just wait until the end?

Leave all PCT till the end...

Also read the PCT sticky at the top of the forum.

 

[zedhed]

Ok I feel for you bro. I know that the competition out there is stiff for where you are wanting to go. I know that most everyone on here will agree with you on the Test enth. But I dont necessarliy agree with that for you where you are right now.
Here we go;
You are a big guy and you push big heavy weights. I would tell you to go with Test Deconate. I call that the "nicer" of the test esters. The only way I can explain it to you is like this, its just smooth. Kinda like that skin on your womans tummy, just silky smooth and sweet and pleasant. Since you already know you can do Test then try the Deconate.
Ok enough for that.
Now, again you are a big guy that pushes huge weights and you get slammed hard out on the field. I do think you should use Deca or Primo or Npp. BUT use the one you choose in small doses, <250mg/week and use it long term.
To me the question of the legality is up to you. You have made your decision. Youre not the only one by any means. The detection time, well thats part of the risk as you are already aware.
Thats just my thoughts for you. But I really do think that you need to consider your longevity in this whole thing. With the weights you push and the besting you take I would really highly suggest that you do consider the 3 substances the I mentioned. Also again with the weights you push, you need to keep in mind the fact that Test over time will make your connective tissues brittle. Those 3 substances will combat that for you, again looking at the long term and injury prevention.
Good luck bro and hope you make it the big leagues!

 

[nbfb52]

zedhead!!! thanks for the info...
deca is what one of my coaches suggested... so i would take it the full cycle as well? but just 250/ week like take my test mon thurs and take that on say tues?should i still kickstart it?

 

[zedhed]

Yes I would do the Deca for the full cycle. But I would start at 180mg/week and see how that goes. You can always go up from there if you need to. Remember that you are using the Deca for joint and connective tissue health at this time. If you want to bulk with it wait for the off season. At this dose I stay on 3 to 6 months with no issues, however you may react to it diff then I do. While using Deca you must have Dostinex on hand for the sides if you get them. Also with the test you will need to have Aeromasin or Arimidex, I prefer the later of the two. (for sides from the test)
I would really like to see you stay on here and continue posting on the results that you get. Best regards bro.
I dont do kickstarts so someone else will have to help you on that one bro. I would also really for you to consider the Test Deconate that I suggested above. It really is the nicer Test ester. I am on for life so that matter to me.

 

[nbfb52]

Thanks man for real...
Im checking with my guy on the deconate.. hopefully he has it on hand...
I plan to start within the next week and around week 4 and i am going to keep an extensive notebook of what i take, eat, do, how much i rest, lift ect ect and i will make a post showing whats going on, gains, sides, ect....
Thanks again zed, hopefully ill be 310-315 by march