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A Cycle

Cardinal Slin

Cardinal Slin

New member
Currently: 250lbs holding minimal
Bodyfat: Between 10-11%

Cycle:

Sustanon 500mgs every 5 days - started Saturday 13 September
Masteron 200mgs every third day (possibly to increase) Started Thursday 18 September
T3 50mcgs daily started a month ago with my hgh cycle but then dropped to 12.5mcgs until I started the test last week.

8 weeks on the masteron before doing a 1mth cycle of IGF while still on the sust.

After the last injection of the sustanon I will do 2mths of hgh at 4iu daily. and 3 wks after the last sust injection I will do insulin at 5iu daily, post workout for 10 days.

I am using this as a diary and to keep progress of results.

Looking to reach 255-260lbs @ 9% and be solid, dry and hard.
 
Ok I have changed things around a little bit.

I was getting a bit too much water retention for my liking so have jumped on 1/4 tab letro eod to every third day depending. I know when using this previously that it caused my joints some pain so trying to run it as little as possible.

I am now doing 150mgs masteron eod.

Between that and the test, the pumps I am getting are amazing and strenght is rising steadily and I have noticed a little more visibility on the abs.

Upped the t3 to 75mcgs daily now and doing 45 mins cardio every 3rd day in the morning on an empty stomach.

I won't be using the igf now as I am looking to put a down payment on a house soon but once the cycle is over I will do 6 wks of hgh at 4iu daily.

A lot of people have said dont do this for less than 4-6mths but I experienced great results using for only one month.

Vascularity has increased a bit and I am seeing some veins/arteries I didn't even know I had.

I trained my biceps today and had an awesome pump. I want my biceps that way all the time and I will be happy so perhaps this cycle will get me there.
 
It got changed around a bit some more :)

I dropped the masteron after 4 wks because I got something more powerful (tren) and am now doing 37.5mgs daily of tren ace, 50mgs daily of tren hexa and an amp of sust eod.

Dropped the t3 cause wasn't really a need for it anymore with the tren.

Apart from not being able to sleep at night, I am loving this to pieces :)

Veins on my lats are starting to pop out :)
 
edited my post above - it meant to say never used tren in the past, not t3.

So basically I am coming up to the end of my second week or around there on the tren.

I am loving it to pieces.

I am definitely more vascular and slightly leaner. Strength has increased but rather than lifting heavier, I am lifting more reps (joint pain with heavy weights at the moment).

The tren has given me an awesome intensity in the gym and I am truly focused more so than when on caffeine supps (but without the sides).

I wouldn't say I am short of breath but definitely notice a difference in my breathing - no big deal.

I am way more aggressive but am channelling this in to my workouts - trying very hard to keep it in the gym.

Acne is starting to come through from the tren so will get on accutane at the earliest.

I am not sweating much from the tren but I am very sleepless at night.

I go to bed at 9:30, 10:30 or 11:30 and I just end up laying on the bed, turning for hours before sleeping and then often wake up once or twice throughout the night unable to get back to sleep.

Now the only way to do it is a strong glass or two of alcohol and a couple of Benadryl. Simply nothing else works.

I am now again at 250 (went down for a bit) but definitely much leaner.

I can now see veins in my lats which is pretty awesome.

One negative is I can't do cardio on the tren because of the breathing thing.
 
interesting feedback on the tren. im still researching it. looks promising. have you ever had gyno problems in the past? using any AI, caber or dos??
 
Yes, I have had gyno problems from deca almost 10 years ago and then from test since.

Currently using letro (1/4 tab every 3rd day) for my test and caber for the tren (1/2 a tab twice a week)
 
socalmuscle said:
looks like you have it all in check. hows the diet?
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Diet is not 100% but it's pretty damn good...

I have a semi fast metabolism and during bulking cycles I can get away with eating burger king, kfc, pizza hut and so on and not put on more than 1-2% bf (no cardio or anything, just weights).

Now I am trying to lean up I have stopped all the junk food (well maybe once or twice a week instead of twice a day).. Cardio once a week cause tren is preventing me from going more seriously at cardio.

Eating about 400 grams of protein a day,
Prolab Nlarge II twice a day
Nitrotech premade shakes twice a day (45grams of protein each and the only reason I drink them is cause I havent found a better tasting premade protein shake).

I am on between 2500 and 3000 calories a day (not too many carbs especially closer to bed time) and I just checked myself out in the mirror!

WOW WOW WOW

This shit is amazing :)

I didnt notice major changes over the last two wks but after a 5 minute examination my veins are slowly becoming visible in my chest and lats and delts, my chest and back is definitely bigger, I am holding very little water and the muscle is rock solid.

I can't wait for 4 more weeks of this!!!
 
socalmuscle said:
damn slin thats very low kcals for someone your size
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It most definitely is not that many - but the purpose is for me to drop the fat. not really interested in bulking up at the moment and it's working. normally on a bulking cycle I would be on 5500-6000 calories.

I lov e love love love this stuff
 
OK - I am now up to doing an amp of sust eod, 75mgs of tren a eod and 100mgs of tren hexa eod (alternating)...

Water retention was getting a bit too much so I took 3/4 a tab of esidex this morning. I've been peeing all day, can already see a drop in water around the face and when I got home and took my shirt off I am definitely much leaner than I thought.

I personally would only recommend such tablets for those who are totally experienced with diuretics as I suffered for months and months when using lasix about 8 yrs back.

I love tren... Absolutely love it!

I was at 256lbs this morning and leaner than when I started whilst holding water, I am now 253 and much much leaner :)

It seems weight just got added over the weekend...
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socalmuscle said:
never heard of esidex before? what happened with you and lasix?
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Esidrex sorry - a diuretic

Lasix, basically thought it would be cool to use more rather than less. I was younger then, thought nothing could help me.

Basically emptied my body of all electrolytes and everything else it needed to function (always happens when you are not smart) and I had joint issues for months and months and months and even years later didn't feel I was properly fixed.

Hard to explain but if you move your neck (you can kind of hear it grinding)...

Now I always load up with electrolytes and use no more than 3/4 a tab once every few weeks...
 
Cardinal Slin said:
Esidrex sorry - a diuretic

Lasix, basically thought it would be cool to use more rather than less. I was younger then, thought nothing could help me.

Basically emptied my body of all electrolytes and everything else it needed to function (always happens when you are not smart) and I had joint issues for months and months and months and even years later didn't feel I was properly fixed.

Hard to explain but if you move your neck (you can kind of hear it grinding)...

Now I always load up with electrolytes and use no more than 3/4 a tab once every few weeks...
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Shit that's not good at all.
 
I am at my leanest to date, possibly ever without really trying too much. It was at first thanks to my gh but I stopped that before this cycle and moved on to test and t3. I then replaced the masteron with tren when I finally got some and I think 3 wks later, BAM!

Sides that I know are tren related:

Lack of sleep at night. I do not feel tired at all. I just lay in bed and stare at the ceiling doing nothing. I feel like the invincible man. It's probably like trying to sleep after you have taken an x or cocaine (not that I ever have).

I get hot flushes sometimes, usually after I eat, I feel my body being a lot hotter (temperature wise).

Acne is not as bad as I thought it would be. It is not the cystic type of acne, that I am doing a good job keeping away but it is more the pimple like acne filled with puss that is occuring around my nose and around the mouth area, especially just above the chin but below the mouth.

I am more aggressive for sure, but at the same time for the most part can keep it under control. I am a lot shorter in terms of blowing a fuse easier over silly things.
 
1st off edit your post and change the yellow text... hard to read

2nd I cant wait for my tren in the spring!!! keep up the reports... whats your dose now? still on tren A?

hows the diet been?

whats dose of t3 you taking?
 
socalmuscle said:
1st off edit your post and change the yellow text... hard to read

2nd I cant wait for my tren in the spring!!! keep up the reports... whats your dose now? still on tren A?

hows the diet been?

whats dose of t3 you taking?
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Sorry, someone bombed me so the only way people could have read was through yellow. It seems now I cannot edit it.

Coming to the end of the cycle (well endish) I decided to see how I can best utilise the esters and so have stopped tren acetate and am running 100mgs tren hexa daily and have been doing so for the last week (I have one vial left of that) so another 9 days from tomorrow. Then I have 15 days of tren acetate to finish it all off. I may pick up another two bottles and continue for another 20 days. I will see on that one. Some people may complain or call stupid on switching between hexa and acetate but they are basically all the same thing just different response times. No big deal for me. I have enough built up in my body to be fine with switching.

My BP was through the roof over the last few days and I was getting sick headaches and my S/O said my face was getting fat (so all the test is causing some water retention) even with the letro.

I have taken a whole tab of esidrex for the first time ever to put a rapid end to this bp and water retention. Peeing like a mad man hooked up to IV water. I am drinking a lot of water and have been taking electrolytes throughout the day, will continue to do so for the next few days. I know how dangerous diuretics are from personal experience.

Headaches are gone and over the next 12 hrs I will monitor the puff face. Chest is much much fuller and so are shoulders and lats.

I have not noticed as much fat loss as I thought I would on tren as claimed by so many but I still have around 25 days to go.

I am now going to drop out the Nlarge 11 and go straight for pure protein shakes (the 8-9grams of carbs will come from milk). Really going to keep super high protein/super low carbs for the next 20 days and see what happens. Also now on 50mcgs daily of t3.

I would have loved to do cardio during this cycle but tren is definitely not allowing me to do that (short of breath).

One side I have noticed and am attributing it to tren cause t3 and sust/test has never caused this before but for the last week I have not been able to control simple carbs. I am craving for sugar continously but have decided to fight against it now. I;ve been a bit wild on the diet with sugars and chocolates but alas, no more.

I am quite lean still but I notice a little more fat on the mid section. Can still see abs but considering the crap ive been eating, im unhappy but not surprised.
 
how many mgs of test you on? cause of your gyno issues in the past do you chose to go straight to the letro and not use adex ed or eod?

Im on test e/EQ, cant decide if i wanna add tren or save that my next cycle... your thoughts? also on your 1st tren cycle did you use ace or hex? which do you prefer?

glad you trying to keep the diet clean, makes all the difference in the world.
 
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socalmuscle said:
how many mgs of test you on? cause of your gyno issues in the past do you chose to go straight to the letro and not use adex ed or eod?

Im on test e/EQ, cant decide if i wanna add tren or save that my next cycle... your thoughts? also on your 1st tren cycle did you use ace or hex? which do you prefer?

glad you trying to keep the diet clean, makes all the difference in the world.
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I am on 250mgs eod so around 850mgs ish a week.

I don't jump straight on to the letro as I am very in tune with my body and I know the second I start feelin pre gyno symptons then take nolva for 2 days and start the letro at the same time then I just take a 1/4 tab every third day or every fourth day. I have gone above this on my last cycle but had no sex drive at all and had sore joints (signs of no estro).

This really is the first time I could say I have done a straight up, cycle and I am injecting on a daily basis so never missing a shot, doing a shot a day late or anyything of the sort.

I would definitely say to go with tren. I am startin to ease off of symptoms - finding it easier to sleep at night but still sweating and BP is quite high.

I would definitely say ace all the way. If you do experience any issues you can stop it immediately.

I went to the pool today for the first time in ages and literally every woman was checking me out :)

I love this I love this I love this..

Good luck with the cycle my man and please let me know if you wish for me to elaborate on anything.

Tren sides for me:

High bp and as a result or an addition headaches
Slightly short of breath
Issues sleeping at night but they are easing off
Sweating more than normal
Acne but it's under control by taking 101 precautions

Nothing comes for free.

After trying most steroids, I don't think there is another cycle I will do that doesn't have tren in there.
 
im starting to wonder if my right shoulder pains are from no estro, not taking adex, currently 600mg test E/600 EQ. your thoughts?

and yes looks like tren ace is on the horizon for me, Ill let you know when I start.

btw, why ya keep getting BOMBED by the plats?
 
Socal, I am a little confused, you are not taking any aromatase inhibitors but you believe you have no estrogen on 600mgs of test? Estrogen is good to an extent so if you are not experiencing side effects such as gyno, bloat and so on, keep with it. That cycle seems good eq and test is a great great combo!

Oh and they keep bombin me as part of a game that I don't see the humour in :)
 
bro i havent checked in for a while..hows the cycle..whats the gains looking like..make srue you take progress pics!!
 
Bigpimpin10 said:
bro i havent checked in for a while..hows the cycle..whats the gains looking like..make srue you take progress pics!!
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Hey bro,

I am not putting too much weight on but size and shape is definitely changing for the better!

I am starting to look more like a bodybuilder and less like an athlete! Remember at my height, it's quite hard to look massive but the cuts are giving that impression.

I cannot wait for 3 more weeks!
 
I have 9 days of tren left (8 after my injection today)...

My acne is starting to get the better of me now and so am glad I am shortly coming off the tren although I am not looking forward to the things that will happen when I come off the tren.

It's funny my weight has been up and down from around 245 - 260 throughout which was very confusing for me but I most definitely am bigger, leaner and look like more of a bb than ever before. I am currently at around 252lbs, lean and vascular.

Aggression is definitely up there and for the most part I have been able to deal with it but sometimes when i get annoyed I say it rather than suck it up (something I never did before).

Focus in the gym is way way up because of the tren, it keeps me focused and I have stopped having sleeping issues because of the tren. I am having some issues getting the last few ounces of stubborn fat off the stomach and I must say tren was not what I heard everyone has claimed... My diet was quite good (high protein, low carbs, mostly clean and I am not as ripped up as people claim even when they were eating bad but everyone is different).

On the whole I am glad I did this cycle and cannot wait to go on to the hgh to really drop that fat.


Photos coming in 9 more days!
 
awesome bro.i was just going to ask you to post photos..until ir ead the bottom of your post...
im glad your liking it :)
 
this is my first time with tren ace too, 75mg EOD. almost done with wk1. Im interested to see if it lives up to all the claims as well.
 
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