93 degree body temp? Help!

[Judah Bauer]

I had been dieting w/ 50mcg t3, 50mg fina daily and 500mg prop per week. This week I switched to 6ml GAC heatmiser daily (supposedly 25mcg t3, 40mcg clen, and some yohimbe per ml...but either its underdosed, i mixed it wrong, or the t3 is really t4...cause its not that potent)...in 3 divided doses. The fat loss has been good.

i'm cycling carbs as well. On days when i don't do cardio or train, i'm basically at zero carbs and very low cals (about 1500 or so). Well today was one of those days. I woke up, at my first meal...and ended up w/ the munchies a bit so I drank 2liters of cold diet mountain dew to kill cravings (hey it works!).

Well, I started to feel pretty damn chilly, granted my house has strong AC...but i was wearin a sweatshirt. I took my temp...it was 93.3 farenheit! I decided to do some light treadmill work to warm up...i was fuckin cold...so i did 30 mins at 4.5mph. At about 12 mins I finally started a slight sweat and took the sweatshirt off. Immediately after, i took my temp again....94 degrees...

So i had my sister take her temp w/ the same thermometer (she's on a normal diet, no drugs or any of that jazz)...she was only 97.

What are some thoughts on this???

 

[Judah Bauer]

i should add that I took 2ml of heatmiser that morning...and at other times after the heatmiser I feel rather warm..especially in the shoulder blades (brown fat) area. And often i have pretty bad night sweats....even last night. weird.

 

[pipdaddy]

get a new thermometer

 

[The Shadow]

yeaH - thermometer sounds bad

 

[Judah Bauer]

I agree somethin's up with the thermometer...but still...isn't it odd i'm 4 degrees lower than my sister and I'm supposedly on 200mcg of t3 ?? I guess the cold 2 liter could have somethign to do with it...and the no carb day. Should I be worried about the low temp blunting fat burnign?

 

[Judah Bauer]

The plot thickens (post #1)

I just took my temp again....97.7...same thermometer...what the fuck

 

[SofaGeorge]

I agree somethin's up with the thermometer...but still...isn't it odd i'm 4 degrees lower than my sister and I'm supposedly on 200mcg of t3 ?? I guess the cold 2 liter could have somethign to do with it...and the no carb day. Should I be worried about the low temp blunting fat burnign?

200mcg of T3? You are going to have a dead thyroid shortly.

 

[Never Enough]

Did you wait to take your temp after drinking the Dew?

 

[Judah Bauer]

Did you wait to take your temp after drinking the Dew?

yes, i think that may have had something to do w/ it cause the dew was cold.

SofaGeorge...its not dosed correctly. Judging from past expiriences, i'd say either the t3 I'm taking now is actually t4, or is alot closer to 50 or 75mcg.

 

[chronik000]

yea u shouldnt eat or drink anything 20 minutes prior to taking your temp, but still i wouldnt think it would cause your temp to be that low, Sounds like hypothermia !

 

[Nelson Montana]

If it's a mercury thermometer it can't be wrong. The digital ones suck. But a flucuation of a few degrees is normal and 97 is very very common, especially with women.
Of coarse, running n a sweashirt will raise your temp, but it'll just go down again.

If I had to take a guess, this would be it:

You're hypothyroid. You probably fucked your thyroid up with the T3 and cutting carbs that low made it worse. Stop doing all the stupid shit you're doing NOW. Get your ass to a doctor tomorrow and hope you don't have to take medication for the rest of your life, which is most likely the case.

93 is dangerously low. It could go down even lower while asleep and too much lower and you won't wake up. I dont mean to scare you, but that's what it takes to realize you're risking your life to be a little leaner, so be it.

Please go to a doctor.

 

[jubei]

Good to see Nelson back.

 

[Judah Bauer]

If I had to take a guess, this would be it:

You're hypothyroid. You probably fucked your thyroid up with the T3 and cutting carbs that low made it worse. Stop doing all the stupid shit you're doing NOW. Get your ass to a doctor tomorrow and hope you don't have to take medication for the rest of your life, which is most likely the case.

93 is dangerously low. It could go down even lower while asleep and too much lower and you won't wake up. I dont mean to scare you, but that's what it takes to realize you're risking your life to be a little leaner, so be it.

Please go to a doctor.

first off i wanna say I genuinely appreciate your concern...but my thyroid's not fucked up. Supressed? of course. But that stuff about needing meds for the rest of your life from t3 is an internet myth.

I'm pretty much convinced at this point the (digital) thermometer was just fucked up. Like i said earlier, i took my temp later on and it was 98, and I've felt fine all day.

I'm scheduled to get my thyroid levels checked as soon as I go off t3...probably in a few weeks. I'll post the results. I'm sure they'll show some serious supression...but they'll be normal again in about 2 weeks.

 

[Nelson Montana]

first off i wanna say I genuinely appreciate your concern...but my thyroid's not fucked up. Supressed? of course. But that stuff about needing meds for the rest of your life from t3 is an internet myth.

I'm pretty much convinced at this point the (digital) thermometer was just fucked up. Like i said earlier, i took my temp later on and it was 98, and I've felt fine all day.

I'm scheduled to get my thyroid levels checked as soon as I go off t3...probably in a few weeks. I'll post the results. I'm sure they'll show some serious supression...but they'll be normal again in about 2 weeks.

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Responses like this amaze me. How can you be so sure your thyroid isn't fucked up? Because some idiot on a message board said that T3 isn't dangerous? T3 is serious shit dude.

First you said you had chills, now you say you felt fine. Which is it?

Some people are just in denial. Just today I was horrified to hear a friend tell me he had 3 loose teeth. I said "My god! Aren't you going to go to a dentist?!?" He just shrugged it off like it was nothing.

I don't know -- maybe I'm a little neurotic about my health. But how anyone be so cavalier about something so potentially dangerous is beyond me. I hope you're right. But I'd be a little more concerned if I was going to have a functional thyroid, or slip into a coma. But...whatever...hope it works out for you.

 

[Judah Bauer]

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Responses like this amaze me. How can you be so sure your thyroid isn't fucked up? Because some idiot on a message board said that T3 isn't dangerous? T3 is serious shit dude.

I take my health seriously. For a long while i didn't wanna screw with t 3 specifically because i was scared it would shut down my thyroid permanently...then I discovered that doesn't happen. If you can find a single case where endogenous t3 was the cause of permanent thyroid supression, you will have changed my mind. I haven't found any. What i have see, are cases where people were misdiagnosed w/ hypothyroidism, given t3 for years, then went off, and still regained fuction in two weeks.

i don't go above about 50-75mcg. I said what i'm on now is supposed to be 200mcg....but because of either an error mixing on my part, or bad ingredients...its not that much. How can i tell...earlier this year i cycled it for two weeks up to what should have been 150mcg and expirienced no jitteriness or muscle loss...w/o AAS. Again, I"m truly appreciative of your concern.

 

[JibbyJabba]

If you can find a single case where endogenous t3 was the cause of permanent thyroid supression, you will have changed my mind.

Ask hhajdo... he can find a study for anything.

 

[ironmaster]

: N Engl J Med 1975 Oct 2;293(14):681-4 Related Articles, Links


Recovery of pituitary thyrotropic function after withdrawal of prolonged thyroid-suppression therapy.

Vagenakis AG, Braverman LE, Azizi F, Portinay GI, Ingbar SH.

The pattern of thyrotropin secretion was analyzed in seven euthyroid women, before and after withdrawal of long-term thyroid hormone, by serial measurements of thyroid 131l uptake, serum thyroxine, tri-iodothyronine, and thyrotropin concentrations, and the response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone. During exogenous hormone administration, 131l uptake was suppressed, and serum thyrotropin concentrations before and after administration of thyrotropin-releasing hormone were undetectable. After withdrawal of exogenous hormone, thyrotropin secretory function was transiently impaired, as indicated by undetectable basal thyrotropin concentrations together with absence of response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone, and subsequently by normal values of basal thyrotropin concentration and normal responses to releasing hormone while serum thyroxine and tri-iodothyronine concentrations were subnormal. Decreased thyrotropin reserve persisted for two to five weeks. Detectable values of serum thyrotropin (less than 1.2 muU per milliliter) and a normal 131l uptake usually occurred concurrently in two to three weeks. Serum thyroxine concentration returned to normal at least four weeks after hormone withdrawal.

PMID: 808728 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[theprophe]

Well the position of the thermometer if its a mouth one, is very important, the most accurate thermometers are the ear ones, made by like braun, cost about 50 bucks, very accurate, as long as it is inserted horizontaly pointed into the ear canal, and not tilted

 

[Nelson Montana]

For the reasons stated, the ear thermometers are less accurate. Hospitals use them because they don't need to be cleaned after each administration and they don't break. The 2 dollar mercury ones are best.

Keep in mind, any study that was conducted would be with replacement dosages. 200mcgs of T3 is 10x's over what anyone would take. (except if maybe they had their thyroid removed).

There aren't any studies conducted on the ill effects of people who drank a cup of car wax mixed with sewage, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so.

 

[Judah Bauer]

Keep in mind, any study that was conducted would be with replacement dosages. 200mcgs of T3 is 10x's over what anyone would take. (except if maybe they had their thyroid removed).

There aren't any studies conducted on the ill effects of people who drank a cup of car wax mixed with sewage, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so.

Point taken..but like I said I'm not on 200mcg. Offhand the highest dose i can remember seeing in a study is 75mcg. I think we can all agree the drinking carwax/sewage analogie is a little far fetched.

 

[Judah Bauer]

Point taken..but like I said I'm not on 200mcg. Offhand the highest dose i can remember seeing in a study is 75mcg. I think we can all agree the drinking carwax/sewage analogie is a little far fetched.

Actually maybe not I just remembered what DNP was.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I've got to agree with Nelson on this one, and I often do not agree with him. 200 mcg of t3 if ridiculous. How many of you who use 100 or 150 mcgs a day have ever tried only 25 mcgs a day? For most people you'll lose bodyfat just as rapidly, without the muscle wasting. Sorry, but slightly elevated t3 levels are anabolic, while exceedingly high levels are catabolic, and will not noticably excellerate fat lose.