750mg Test weekly...A-dex or Nolv??

[Nighthawkk]

My upcoming cycle is going to be run as something like this:

Week 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (may be increased to 50)
Week 1-8 Sust 750mg pw

I have the nolv and clomid for pct, but I need to get something more for during the cycle. What would you guys recommend, liquidex or nolv? I've run both pill and liquid forms of each, and acheive good results either way, but I am going for maximum mass this time around. It is claimed that small amounts of a-dex reduces estro too much where gains are affected. I'm not too gyno prone with test, but when dbol is in the mix, I definitely need something to avoid those hurting nips. Oh yea, this is the fourth cycle and first time running Test over 500mg (excluding a 1g frontload for the last one). Opinions helpful, thanks!

 

[Anthony Starks]

Between the two, no question go with A-dex.

 

[Slyder190]

A-dex hands down, but have some extra Nolva on hand just in case. You may need more than the standard .05mg per day if you're running that much test. I know I would.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

My upcoming cycle is going to be run as something like this:

Week 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (may be increased to 50)
Week 1-8 Sust 750mg pw

I have the nolv and clomid for pct, but I need to get something more for during the cycle. What would you guys recommend, liquidex or nolv? I've run both pill and liquid forms of each, and acheive good results either way, but I am going for maximum mass this time around. It is claimed that small amounts of a-dex reduces estro too much where gains are affected. I'm not too gyno prone with test, but when dbol is in the mix, I definitely need something to avoid those hurting nips. Oh yea, this is the fourth cycle and first time running Test over 500mg (excluding a 1g frontload for the last one). Opinions helpful, thanks!

Nolva is all you need IMO. A-dex is ok but check the sides

 

[Nighthawkk]

A-dex hands down, but have some extra Nolva on hand just in case. You may need more than the standard .05mg per day if you're running that much test. I know I would.

Isn't 0.5mg daily a bit overkill?

 

[bigtbone]

Go with the A-dex. Not too many people think about the effects estrogen has on the prostate........hypertrophy! No thanks, I choose a-dex.

 

[baby DBOL]

Femara!

If all you can get in a-dex then run it with cycle and have some extra nolva on had in case you miss dose your adex.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Femara!

If all you can get in a-dex then run it with cycle and have some extra nolva on had in case you miss dose your adex.

I never tried femara/letro. I was told its really good stuff, but strong...its hard to say if there's "too much of a good thing" as far as anti-e's go. Right now its just a dilemma figuring out whether or not dropping my E levels so low on this bulk cycle would hinder gains. Of course I don't want any gyno or estrogen-related problems either. From the responses here I think I am leaning towards a moderate A-dex dose since both the test and dbol combined aromatize heavily. Still have a week or so to decide though as I haven't started yet.

 

[oubeta]

Nothing unless you need it. I ran 1g of test a week with nothing. I had everything on hand, but didn't need to use it.

 

[Judo Tom]

i prefer nolva

 

[benny1970]

What are the sides of a-dex?

 

[oldman69]

I never tried femara/letro. I was told its really good stuff, but strong...its hard to say if there's "too much of a good thing" as far as anti-e's go. Right now its just a dilemma figuring out whether or not dropping my E levels so low on this bulk cycle would hinder gains. Of course I don't want any gyno or estrogen-related problems either. From the responses here I think I am leaning towards a moderate A-dex dose since both the test and dbol combined aromatize heavily. Still have a week or so to decide though as I haven't started yet.

All this imput, as all responses on this board are valuable, but the real unknown when it comes to anti-e dosages and most other issues, is how it affects you as an individual. As an example, you may think 0.05 arimidex EOD is overkill? I personally needed 1.5 everyday along with 40mgs of nolvadex while on approx. 600mgs of test weekly, and still ended up with my estradiol levels at 62 (range 10-50).

What is really needed are periodic blood tests to monitor estradiol levels in relation to dosing. That is the only way to zero in on what works and dosen't.
Good luck.

 

[Dieselgoku23]

Okay I'm having the same problems I'm doing about 700mg of Test E and 600mg of EQ a week. And well I'm running Dex but not sure how much to take I have my first shot was about 2 days been taking 1mg ED since but I notice my joints are starting to hurt I think is lack of estrogen!!. I really really dont want Gyno never had any problems with Gyno yet I have never used anything this strong that aromatize. What do you guys suggest, drop 1mgEOD or half the dosage .50ED guys help me out with a reply. I dont want to hinder my gains taking too much A dex and also Cholesterol

 

[Nighthawkk]

All this imput, as all responses on this board are valuable, but the real unknown when it comes to anti-e dosages and most other issues, is how it affects you as an individual. As an example, you may think 0.05 arimidex EOD is overkill? I personally needed 1.5 everyday along with 40mgs of nolvadex while on approx. 600mgs of test weekly, and still ended up with my estradiol levels at 62 (range 10-50).

What is really needed are periodic blood tests to monitor estradiol levels in relation to dosing. That is the only way to zero in on what works and dosen't.
Good luck.

This is very true, but most normal people don't have the time nor funds to get periodic blood testing done throughout a cycle. So I have only experience to go by, and the advice of other bros here. Obviously everyone reacts differently so I suppose its necessary to just step back and evaluate past success with what has been used. I know arimidex and nolv both work for me well, and I am not very sensitive to gyno unless stacking the dbol with test in high doses. That being said, I certainly have to run something, its still a question of what. Either 0.5 a-dex EOD or 20mg nolv daily will cost the same really...

 

[help4john]

Either 0.5 a-dex EOD or 20mg nolv daily will cost the same really...

I've tried them both during cycle. For me, it seems that Arimidex .5mg EOD did a much better job at reducing bloat and combatting any gyno (fortunately I am not prone) than any benefit I have gotten from Nolva. Typically, I will use Adex during cycle and Nolva during PCT. This seems to work best for me but might not be the recipe for everyone. Good luck with your decision.