7 Simples Rules. Keep Them, And You Can't Go Wrong.

[1crow]

Nelson Montana, always interesting and level-headed. Wish there were more guys like him on this board. I miss Ulter and Macrophage.

I recall some of the inane advices offered up when first trying to figure whether and how to use anabolic androgenic steroids. trenbolone and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - were two I originally got excited about and quickly rejected for the exact reasons Nelson mentions. What is astonishing are the numbers of guys rationalizing there use. One guy bragged on being big and ripped and gasping for breath after a flight of stairs from his Tren cutter. The numbers of posts recommending "more test plus Viagra" to deal with D.D. would be funny except that some kid is taking this advice seriously.

Ok, this is just piling on but thanks for saying what a lot of guys are thinking.

-1crow

Rule#2: Don't use Trenbolone.

Okay, now I've estranged half the members on the board. Who doesn't love the results of trenbolone? But remember, the stuff was not meant for human consumption and the side effects tell you something is very wrong. There is an appitite stimulant included that is meant for cattle which seems to have an effect on the reperatory system. Duh...HELLO. It's 3 times more androgenic and supressive than testosterone and it DECREASES libido? What the fuck folks. Just take 3 times as much testosterone if that's what you want. Something is very weird about this shit and for that reason I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Rule # 6: Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is dead.

Why does anyone use this shitty drug anymore? People shout "It gets you big!" Fuck, if I ate 400 calories and a bag of salt every day I'd get big too. But at least I'd still have a dick. When people say "Oh, just use some test with it and you avoid libido problems" what they apparently don't realize is that the test may be a temporary cure but it also supresses. Now you're using two drugs to get the result you can get from one without the problems in the first place. A horrible, horrible drug. I'm sorry I ever used it. And by the way, the myth that it "heals joints?" Bullshit. It just causes water retention which soothes joints a little.

 

[Arabian]

Very informative posts...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Bumpin' its ass.

 

[SLAYER69!]

I'm not too bad, only break rule #2 (many times). That seems to be the one with the most arguments anyway.

 

[cadey]

Rule # 6: Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is dead.

Why does anyone use this shitty drug anymore? People shout "It gets you big!" Fuck, if I ate 400 calories and a bag of salt every day I'd get big too. But at least I'd still have a dick. When people say "Oh, just use some test with it and you avoid libido problems" what they apparently don't realize is that the test may be a temporary cure but it also supresses. Now you're using two drugs to get the result you can get from one without the problems in the first place. A horrible, horrible drug. I'm sorry I ever used it. And by the way, the myth that it "heals joints?" Bullshit. It just causes water retention which soothes joints a little.


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i second this

 

[glover]

Everyone is different and will like wise react differently to compounds and combinations. What may not work for this guy might work well for someone else.
The best way to test these theories is to do them yourself and see if they accurately apply to you.

If nothing else they certainly give you a heads up on what to look for.

 

[tracemhunter]

I agree with this except for #2. I love the stuff and get very little/practically no sides from it.

 

[gjohnson5]

I partially agree with Nelson on this.
You could get a progesterone cream and wipe it on the joints to get the anti-inflammatory effect of estrogen/progesterone

You really don't need Deca or any nandrolone for this

just so I'm clear ...you are suggesting that the joint pain DE.CA alleviates could be achieved by simply taking asparin?

 

[Tatyana]

good post. How much human growth hormone - somatropin - would you reccomend for PostCT? how much Arimidex - anastrozole - ?

I went and saw my 'coach' tonight, she is a former Miss Olympia Competitor, IFBB pro, and has gotten more women their pro cards in the UK than anyone else.

She gave me a run down of a few more of the HORRORS of steroid use in women, really sad what has happened to a few of the girlies.

She also showed me DVDs of the last two EFBB qualifiers (that's the IFBB) in the UK.

THe growth hormone guts on quite a few of the male bodybuilders was truely GROSS and obscene.

BLOATED, and they couldn't even hold them in all the time.

And they still didn't have a decent set of legs on them.

My bloody hamstrings have more definition right now and I am about 8-10 weeks out.

Also to see what happened to the faces of a few of the women I know, it was SHOCKING.

Growth expands the forehead, the cheekbones, the nose, and not in a very pretty way.

And one FBBer has died at the age of 43 getting ready for the Nabba Universe, admitted with chest pain. Left two young children, complete tragedy.

Three of the girlies I have competed with are completely messed up now, not just from gear, but also from the recreational drugs that all too often slip into bodybuilding.

Complete tragedy number two, three and four.

I had been feeling sorry for my nattie ass cause I started dieting too late for one of the qualifiers I can't do now (a nattie show).

Now I will have to go up against the gear girls to do a comp this year.

BRING it ON.

The other thing that I heard tonight is that the rebound for women coming off gear, a lot of the sides do not show up until 6 months later, or when they stop BBing competitively.

"OMG my hair is falling out, my nails are brittle and breaking all the time, I have to have electrolysis to get rid of my beard, and my clit is growing!"

All in that deep raspy voice cause their voices dropped when on.

Nattie and happy about it.

I think a few of you need to think about how much you are taking, cause if you think 'oh it won't happen to me' or "I got away with it", think again, it could happen to ANYONE.


Personally I find it frightening that someone that can't even spell the drug they are taking is actually taking it.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Do you believe in running low dosages and being on the conservative side and using this stuff as more of an aid rather than just take in tons and tons and have more of a dependancy on it? If that makes any sense.