45 ,low natty test..should i stay on or come off test cycle?

[stevesmi]

ok ,can you outline a pct which you think would make a difference ,.and im willing to try it in 4 weeks when my cycle ends..then i will come back with honest report.

depends on the cycle.

but generally lets say you run a normal injectable test + other compound cookie cutter cycle with no progestins involved.

running an AI the whole way
running hcgenerate starting week 5 till last injection

after last injection start your hcg + HMG blasting. 1000iu's hcg 5 shots split up every 3-4 days with 2-3 hits of HMG mixed in spread out

low dose clomid 12-25mg for 4 weeks
DAA
unleashed
forma
natty supps of your choice thrown in.. there are plenty to choose from.

of course if you are using a longer ester compound like sustanon or EQ you would stretch things out more.. if you use nandrolones or tren you would need caber/prami during and then double your hcg and HMG

you may also need to repeat this pct a 2nd time after 2-3 weeks off especially with guys who have abused steroids in the past and/or have run weak pct's. guys who especially have abused testosterone, nandrolones in the past may require 2 back to back pct's

this pct covers ALL BASES from top to bottom.

doing nothing the whole time and then waiting and then running nolva/clomid doesn't cover shit except gives you horrible sides. when i read anywhere online someone advocating clomid 300mg, 200mg.. then 100mg a day for 3 weeks or something like that i know 100% they are full of shit and do not even cycle. no body on here could run such a dosage of clomid and feel good during pct, they would be weaping women and their dick would stop working

 

[skaman007]

It might take longer than 2 months. I'm wondering if you really know that your natural levels are on the low side. You could have tested before you were fully recovered, or just had a bad test, etc. I would definitely have multiple data points before making such an important decision.

I am 52 and have considered HRT. Last time I went to the doctor I was thinking about going for it, but my labs came back normal. If I ever do it, It will be under medical supervision.

So, I've been using natural test boosters and I'm glad I am. Its working for me. I understand that Hcgenerate is one of the pricier ones, but its not the only one. Its a good one though, and you can find discounts.

I've been alternating with different boosters, sometimes spending 30-40 per month, sometimes a little more.

It's not like juicing, but my nuts are still working and I'm not having to deal with needles or the potential complications of TRT for now.

When I need it, I'll do it, but I'm not in a hurry.

when do i get a full blOod test done?surely if i do it whilst using test booster it will give a false reading>?do i have to "crash" to get a baseline figure first?THEN TRY A SUPP THEN RE TEST 4 -6 WK LATER>?

 

[Zyglamail]

you should not be yo yo'ing when you cycle. if your cycles are run smart and you have a solid pct then you will get a soft landing.

Thats true but low test means your a lot less likely to keep gains. As someone in their 40's I can sympathize with the sides of low test. TRT has helped me immensely outside the gym.

 

[Headholio]

when do i get a full blOod test done?surely if i do it whilst using test booster it will give a false reading>?do i have to "crash" to get a baseline figure first?THEN TRY A SUPP THEN RE TEST 4 -6 WK LATER>?

That is a problem, but yeah, if you want a true baseline you need to be off everything. Last time I got mine checked I layed off the Unleashed I was taking for about 10 days, and my T, and expecially free T, were higher than normal, so I think it still affected my test.

But if you are healthy, staying natural shouldn't mean a crash. You could do the T boosters as part of PCT and afterward for a couple of months to make sure you are producing. Then lay off for a month or so and get your test.

 

[Nelson Montana]

People have got to stop thinking that lowering estrogen is PCT.

Besides that, I think 45 is a reasonable age to consider HRT, especially if you've done steroids in the past.

 

[skaman007]

People have got to stop thinking that lowering estrogen is PCT.

Besides that, I think 45 is a reasonable age to consider HRT, especially if you've done steroids in the past.

thanks when my 12 week cycle of just 400mg wk test ends ...i will do a pct of..
clomid..25mg x 4 weeks.
daa..3 g day..
tribulus 1.5g day(just for libido help)
bridge..
i will continue the bridge.creatine.daa..trib,,for another 4 weeks....then have 4weeks off and get a full hormone panel test,and take it from there,

 

[Nelson Montana]

thanks when my 12 week cycle of just 400mg wk test ends ...i will do a pct of..
clomid..25mg x 4 weeks.
daa..3 g day..
tribulus 1.5g day(just for libido help)
bridge..
i will continue the bridge.creatine.daa..trib,,for another 4 weeks....then have 4weeks off and get a full hormone panel test,and take it from there,

Both Tribulus and Clomid can raise estrogen.

 

[RADAR]

I turned 61 dec 4th never been on Dr Prescribed PCT/HRT which my Dr knows absolutely nothing about. I just found what works and stuck to it.