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ThePolishHammer
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Can you post a link to those? I dont have platinum, but im damn curious to see the results.
Scaggs
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ThePolishHammer
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Damn! how many pounds did you gain? theres a solid diffrence between those two.
look alot thicker, and gained some noticible size on your arms/lats from what i can see.
look alot thicker, and gained some noticible size on your arms/lats from what i can see.
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WARBIRDWS6
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i can see a diff unless your really pumped in the second pic. lol. 
my buddy used 1-test by VPX and said it helped him get more cut and muscular.
my buddy used 1-test by VPX and said it helped him get more cut and muscular.ThePolishHammer
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Damn! just two days a week?
thats good.
what did your diet look like?
thats good.
what did your diet look like?
Scaggs
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well, i take a
protein in the morning at 8:30 am with my glutimine. then at 9:45 i eat a half a can of tuna and package of macaroni for the carbs. 15 minutes later i take a shot of creatine 5gms.
at 12:00 i eat 6 inch ham and egg sandwich or a chicken sandwich. 3:30 i eat the other half a can of tuna and another package of macaroni. then 5 or 6 i eat a balanced dinner. veggies and all that good stuff. 2 hours later another protien shake with my glutimine. a shot of creatine 5 grams again 15 minutes later. then at around 10 i'll eat something small and pound another protien shake at 11 and then go to bed by 12.
on workout days i take a protien 45 min before and a quick absorbing protien right after with creatine.
my main movements are two days a week mondays and thursdays. on my off days i sometimes go in for forearm work and neck work. but thats it. thats all i do. i seem to grow more with the addtional rest between heavy training days.
Im bore an ectomorph hardgainer. before entering a fitness program i was 143 lbs at 6 foot. Now i'm 6 foot 179lbs really lean. im not sure exactly what my BF is but i know its low. There really aint much fat on me.
Neck 18"
Arms Peak at 17"
waist 33"
those are all the measurements i know off hand.
Scaggs
protein in the morning at 8:30 am with my glutimine. then at 9:45 i eat a half a can of tuna and package of macaroni for the carbs. 15 minutes later i take a shot of creatine 5gms.
at 12:00 i eat 6 inch ham and egg sandwich or a chicken sandwich. 3:30 i eat the other half a can of tuna and another package of macaroni. then 5 or 6 i eat a balanced dinner. veggies and all that good stuff. 2 hours later another protien shake with my glutimine. a shot of creatine 5 grams again 15 minutes later. then at around 10 i'll eat something small and pound another protien shake at 11 and then go to bed by 12.
on workout days i take a protien 45 min before and a quick absorbing protien right after with creatine.
my main movements are two days a week mondays and thursdays. on my off days i sometimes go in for forearm work and neck work. but thats it. thats all i do. i seem to grow more with the addtional rest between heavy training days.
Im bore an ectomorph hardgainer. before entering a fitness program i was 143 lbs at 6 foot. Now i'm 6 foot 179lbs really lean. im not sure exactly what my BF is but i know its low. There really aint much fat on me.
Neck 18"
Arms Peak at 17"
waist 33"
those are all the measurements i know off hand.
Scaggs
ThePolishHammer
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damn. only 180! whats your BF?
Youlook way bigger than that
Youlook way bigger than that
Scaggs
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Well i don't know my exact BF but i know its 5% or under. I look bigger because i have no fat, all my mucles are popping. I also have a small frame so i look bigger than i am. I take the 1-test 50mgs in the morning, 50mgs in the afterneoon and another 50mgs before bed. On workout days i take it about 30 min before training.
well here are some weight increases on my main movements... i jumped 35lbs on my hack squat 20lbs up on my free squat, and 25lbs up on my leg press. My dips went way past 20 reps so i had to add weight to them, flat bench is up 15. My rack deads went up 20lbs, stiff legged deads went up 10lbs and mili presses went up 10lbs.
Still no sides. no lethargy or loss of sex drive.
Scaggs
well here are some weight increases on my main movements... i jumped 35lbs on my hack squat 20lbs up on my free squat, and 25lbs up on my leg press. My dips went way past 20 reps so i had to add weight to them, flat bench is up 15. My rack deads went up 20lbs, stiff legged deads went up 10lbs and mili presses went up 10lbs.
Still no sides. no lethargy or loss of sex drive.
Scaggs
Scaggs
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That's impressive! Are you on any gear? I like the size i am right now, but I want to become more vascular. With proper diet of course, will the 1-test help in this category?
It might help out with that. I have heard great things about becoming more vascular from 1-ad and 1-test. There is no estrogen aramatization so everything is really lean. some stack it with 4-ad to get the estrogen. Im not on any gear. I've never cycled any gear yet. I wanted to cycle Anavar but that went south so I picked up 1-test instead and I'm pretty pleased with my strength gains and size. This girl came over yesterday who hasn't seen me since i started the 1-test and she's like "dude your arms are freakin huge, what are you on?" she didn't believe i wasn't on gear. so i showed her what i was taking.
We'll see what continues to happen.,
Scaggs
It might help out with that. I have heard great things about becoming more vascular from 1-ad and 1-test. There is no estrogen aramatization so everything is really lean. some stack it with 4-ad to get the estrogen. Im not on any gear. I've never cycled any gear yet. I wanted to cycle Anavar but that went south so I picked up 1-test instead and I'm pretty pleased with my strength gains and size. This girl came over yesterday who hasn't seen me since i started the 1-test and she's like "dude your arms are freakin huge, what are you on?" she didn't believe i wasn't on gear. so i showed her what i was taking.
We'll see what continues to happen.,
Scaggs
Scaggs
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Oh another thing about the 1-test solution i forgot to mention.. it deos burn the throat and mouth a little. but that is what i love about it. that sting is addictive. but i swish the solution around in my mouth slowly trying to get the maximum absorbtion for atleast 3 minutes before i swallow it down.
My father is going to do a cycle of 1-AD at 200mgs a day to start at 60 years old. I'll post info on that too. That i think will be interesting.
Hey Warbird - I put my dad on saw palmetto and his prostate has been kicken ass. he feels much better already. thanks for the advice bro. How many Mg's do you take a day?
Scaggs
My father is going to do a cycle of 1-AD at 200mgs a day to start at 60 years old. I'll post info on that too. That i think will be interesting.
Hey Warbird - I put my dad on saw palmetto and his prostate has been kicken ass. he feels much better already. thanks for the advice bro. How many Mg's do you take a day?
Scaggs
Scaggs
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Ok Yesterday's Gym Results:
Rack Deads up another 20lbs
Mili Presses up 10lbs
2 additional reps on my chins
Seated rows up another 10lbs
Not bad considering I was home the day before with a swore throat.. I hammerd the protien and stayed on top of all my supps and kicked that cold in a day and was in the gym the following day.
Still no sides. Libido is fine. No lethargy.
Scaggs
Rack Deads up another 20lbs
Mili Presses up 10lbs
2 additional reps on my chins
Seated rows up another 10lbs
Not bad considering I was home the day before with a swore throat.. I hammerd the protien and stayed on top of all my supps and kicked that cold in a day and was in the gym the following day.
Still no sides. Libido is fine. No lethargy.
Scaggs
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WARBIRDWS6
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Scaggs said:
Check your PM.
WannaBPowerful
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BUMP!
Scaggs, wheres the more recent update? Its been like a month since the last. How did u end up doing?
Scaggs, wheres the more recent update? Its been like a month since the last. How did u end up doing?
Scaggs
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I've been away a lot but was preparing a post to updated everyone interested in the results.
I am off the 1-test now and today will be my first day back in the gym without it. I am expecting some strength losses but some strength loses may be from this camping weekend. Late nights and lots of drinking.
The 1-test made me very pumped and hard. I eat a ton and put on 0 fat. My BF is the lowest ever and I've always been really ripped. I must be down to 3% BF I can't pinch fat anywhere and my groin looks like those juicers on stage. I've built muscle in strange places with no extra emphasis on those parts. Like my groin area. Its shredded muscle. Im up a total of almost 15 lbs in 6 weeks. Some of which is actually water retention. I'm off the creatine cycle and my weight dropped 5 to 6 lbs leaving me with just about 9 to 10lbs of pure lean muscle mass. Very happy with that.
My strength has gone up tremendously. my Squat is up almost 75lbs since i started 1-test. Rack deadlifts are up 50lbs, Bench is up 20lbs. leaning chest dips went way up past 20 reps so i added weight to my feet. now up to 25lbs. Leg presses are up over a 100lbs. I noticed my major weight increases came to my compound movements like, stiff legged dlifts, rack dlifts, squats, leg presses, clean and jerk, and got small rep and weight increases on isolation exercises like standing curls, tricep pulldowns, etc.
My thought, 1-test works a little. I trained harder, ate better, and got better rest to take advantage of the 1-test which might have been where the gains were really coming from, but it did seam a little too easy for me to put on lean mass while on 1-test. Also a much quicker recovery time.
I'll post results of todays workout
Scaggs
I am off the 1-test now and today will be my first day back in the gym without it. I am expecting some strength losses but some strength loses may be from this camping weekend. Late nights and lots of drinking.
The 1-test made me very pumped and hard. I eat a ton and put on 0 fat. My BF is the lowest ever and I've always been really ripped. I must be down to 3% BF I can't pinch fat anywhere and my groin looks like those juicers on stage. I've built muscle in strange places with no extra emphasis on those parts. Like my groin area. Its shredded muscle. Im up a total of almost 15 lbs in 6 weeks. Some of which is actually water retention. I'm off the creatine cycle and my weight dropped 5 to 6 lbs leaving me with just about 9 to 10lbs of pure lean muscle mass. Very happy with that.
My strength has gone up tremendously. my Squat is up almost 75lbs since i started 1-test. Rack deadlifts are up 50lbs, Bench is up 20lbs. leaning chest dips went way up past 20 reps so i added weight to my feet. now up to 25lbs. Leg presses are up over a 100lbs. I noticed my major weight increases came to my compound movements like, stiff legged dlifts, rack dlifts, squats, leg presses, clean and jerk, and got small rep and weight increases on isolation exercises like standing curls, tricep pulldowns, etc.
My thought, 1-test works a little. I trained harder, ate better, and got better rest to take advantage of the 1-test which might have been where the gains were really coming from, but it did seam a little too easy for me to put on lean mass while on 1-test. Also a much quicker recovery time.
I'll post results of todays workout
Scaggs
"My strength has gone up tremendously. my Squat is up almost 75lbs since i started 1-test. Rack deadlifts are up 50lbs, Bench is up 20lbs. leaning chest dips went way up past 20 reps so i added weight to my feet. now up to 25lbs. Leg presses are up over a 100lbs. I noticed my major weight increases came to my compound movements like, stiff legged dlifts, rack dlifts, squats, leg presses, clean and jerk, and got small rep and weight increases on isolation exercises like standing curls, tricep pulldowns, etc.
My thought, 1-test works a little. I trained harder, ate better, and got better rest to take advantage of the 1-test which might have been where the gains were really coming from, but it did seam a little too easy for me to put on lean mass while on 1-test. Also a much quicker recovery time."
Your results sound awesome. Squats up 75 lbs? What I'm confused about is why you said "1-test works a little." Do you usually get those kinds of results?
My thought, 1-test works a little. I trained harder, ate better, and got better rest to take advantage of the 1-test which might have been where the gains were really coming from, but it did seam a little too easy for me to put on lean mass while on 1-test. Also a much quicker recovery time."
Your results sound awesome. Squats up 75 lbs? What I'm confused about is why you said "1-test works a little." Do you usually get those kinds of results?
Scaggs
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No I don't usually get those kind of results. But I don't usually train so perfectly when it comes down to nutrition and rest. Some claim that with perfect nutrition and rest you will grow like a weed. When I cycle stuff I seem to be more motivated and more focused because i want to take advantage of whatever im on. I will have to say it works and this was by far my greatest results of of any PH and I have tried lots of them. When i say it works a [bold]little[/bold] i mean in the size factor. What I mean by that is its not like the effects of a D-ball/Test cycle. You won't grow like that. But as far as the strength increases, there is no doubt in my mind it works. I consumed about 500+ grams of carbs a day while stayin g on about 200+ grams of protein a day and did not put an ounce of fat on. I actually got leaner. you can see veins in my abs and lower stomach. Like i said also, i found my recover time cut in half.
My size stopped or slowed tremendously at about 4 weeks into the cycle but strength continued to increase on every training day.
I wouldn't say 1-test alone is a bulker at all in anyway. I would label it a cutter, and hardener with added strength. At one point i even noticed my arms being completely pumped like they were ready to pop, and i hadn't touch an arm exercise in about 4 days.
My advice is if you do it, do it right. Don't miss a dosage, get minimum of 8 hours of sleep, and cycle creatine with it. I really think the creatine works great with it. Also make sure you're eating enough. 2grms of protein per lb of body weight. I don't have off hand the carb cycle per lb of bodyweight but i think for an 8 week cycle of high carbs its 455- 625 grams of carbs for a bodyweight of 170-180. and not much different for above weights and below weights of 170-180
Scaggs
My size stopped or slowed tremendously at about 4 weeks into the cycle but strength continued to increase on every training day.
I wouldn't say 1-test alone is a bulker at all in anyway. I would label it a cutter, and hardener with added strength. At one point i even noticed my arms being completely pumped like they were ready to pop, and i hadn't touch an arm exercise in about 4 days.
My advice is if you do it, do it right. Don't miss a dosage, get minimum of 8 hours of sleep, and cycle creatine with it. I really think the creatine works great with it. Also make sure you're eating enough. 2grms of protein per lb of body weight. I don't have off hand the carb cycle per lb of bodyweight but i think for an 8 week cycle of high carbs its 455- 625 grams of carbs for a bodyweight of 170-180. and not much different for above weights and below weights of 170-180
Scaggs
Lumberg
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I'm actually surprised that you got such good results from oral 1-test. As far as I know 1-test is best transdermally (or injected if you go that route) and 1-AD is more effective orally.
I just started a 1-AD cycle and if my results are half as good as yours I will be thrilled.
Oh are you experiencing any post-cycle estrogen rebound?
JC
I just started a 1-AD cycle and if my results are half as good as yours I will be thrilled.
Oh are you experiencing any post-cycle estrogen rebound?
JC
Scaggs
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Not yet but will see what continues to happen. I know i should be cycling clomid but I'm only going to slam trib post cycle. See how things go.
If i notice any of that i will post.
Good luck with your 1-ad cycle. I'll be interested in your results cause I know you'll be conscience of placebo.
Scaggs
If i notice any of that i will post.
Good luck with your 1-ad cycle. I'll be interested in your results cause I know you'll be conscience of placebo.
Scaggs
Lumberg
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Scaggs said:Not yet but will see what continues to happen. I know i should be cycling clomid but I'm only going to slam trib post cycle. See how things go.
If i notice any of that i will post.
Good luck with your 1-ad cycle. I'll be interested in your results cause I know you'll be conscience of placebo.
Scaggs
If you were getting rebound it would happen within 2 days of the end of the cycle. Since the stuff only lasts hours in your system the post-cycle sides will start immediately.
Was your libido good throughout the cycle? I am planning on saying bye-bye to mine for a month.
JC
Scaggs
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Haha, well I really didn't notice any sides with loss of libido. I guess I could say I wasn't as horny as I was with the andro poppers but I didn't have any problem getting it up or having sex. So I think its safe to say no. I also didn't experience any lethargy either. Maybe I just lucked out with sides.
If I were to notice post cycle estrogen rebound that soon after than absolutely not. No estrogen rebound. Although I have never been prone to estrogen though like some.
Scaggs
If I were to notice post cycle estrogen rebound that soon after than absolutely not. No estrogen rebound. Although I have never been prone to estrogen though like some.
Scaggs
Scaggs
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Yes i did. Severe acne with Andro Poppers and still acne from bodybuilding in general. However i did not get acne from 1-test. I wouldn't know because I found a God-send soap. Its RX only but its called Plexion Cleanser. Its Sulfer and something else i think sulfacetamide. It cleared my back up in a week and i continue to use it everynight keeping me clear.
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Yesterdays Gym Results:
Leg press up 2 reps
dips up 4 reps
bench was switched to incline 30 degrees so i don't know
cable crossovers up 4 reps
close grip bench up 2 reps
trycep pulldowns up 2 reps
As you can see no weight increases but I still got stronger in rep increases. Not bad considering last Friday I went camping and did nohting but drink and smoke Friday and Saturday untill 4 5 in the morning. I slept all day Sunday to recover for Monday's routine. Been off 1-test since last Thursday. I feel fine. I don't notice anything from being off it at all. I wonder why.
Scaggs
Leg press up 2 reps
dips up 4 reps
bench was switched to incline 30 degrees so i don't know
cable crossovers up 4 reps
close grip bench up 2 reps
trycep pulldowns up 2 reps
As you can see no weight increases but I still got stronger in rep increases. Not bad considering last Friday I went camping and did nohting but drink and smoke Friday and Saturday untill 4 5 in the morning. I slept all day Sunday to recover for Monday's routine. Been off 1-test since last Thursday. I feel fine. I don't notice anything from being off it at all. I wonder why.
Scaggs
gUiLe
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Scaggs said:
How do you know what results a dbol/test cycle will yield if
you never did gear? What I mean here is that you are getting
AWESOME results here and should be VERY pleased about it.
I think the main reason for such good gains (if you really never
did any gear) is because you never did gear. The first cycle is
ALWAYS the best. As far as Anavar, the results you have gotten
are equally if not better then you might have gotten with
Anavar. Shit, you might not have gotten real Anavar anayways.
Good work bro. You look good.
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Scaggs
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I hear what your saying. About the dbol/test cycle, I know of people blowing up like balloons on that where Anavar, 1-test targets more vascularity and strength. I am very pleased with the results I got off it, I just wish i put on a little more size. An additional 5 to 10lbs would have been really nice. True mass ofcourse. I always hear people tell me that Anavars won't do shit. Nobody yet has said anything good about it and they all tell me to hit up Dball/Test. I havn't because from what I read about Anavar, it is the safest steroid. Maybe that is why it hardly does anything. If my results are the same on Anavar as they were on 1-test then shit, what a friggin waste of money. My mind is stuck on the Anavar theory. I will get it and will post my results off it. I expect them to be better than this. Thanks for the compliments bro.
Oh joncrane, the 1-test I was taking is transdermal and not oral. VPX Transdermal 1-test.
Still no estrogen rebound or any sides. I'm taking trib twice a day and feel pretty good.
Scaggs
gUiLe
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Scaggs said:
Well. As I said before, the reason you probably responded so
well to the ph's is because you NEVER did any true anabolics.
It is not uncommon to gain 15lbs on an Anavar only cycle if it
was your first. That, btw is all mass that would be kept. If your
going to run var, run it at at LEAST 40mg a day. In fact 50mg
would be better. Don't listen to all the people screaming
"TEST and Dbol" You have to use common sense here and if
you feel safe with var, then go for it. What kind of var will you
be using? Curious.
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Scaggs
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ttokkyo oxandralone 5mg tabs at 40 to 50mgs a day for 6 weeks.
15 lbs would be titts bro. That is what i would want. I am fixated on it. I feel safe about Var so I really want to use up my first cycle advantage with Anavar. My main desired results are really only a boost in my growth. Something to turn six months of training into 3. Stay hard and put on some mass. I don't want Incredible Hulk Bulk. That is why im so fixated on Var. I think for me, the boost would be great.
Thanks for the Advice
Scaggs
gUiLe
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Scaggs said:
Well, I have some more advice for ya. Stay far away from Ttokyo
var. I (personally) don't even think it IS var! I talk from expierience. If you want to go with quality, Spa is the BEST. If
you want to go with quality but can't afford Spa (VERY expensive)
you might want to go with papervar. Nothing but raves and
VERY affordable. If you go with tt var, you might walk away with
some gyno to boot! Good luck.
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hardasnails73
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Vpx 1 test is sublingular i'm taking same thing ~~ 9 cc a day (same as him ) and it got me shredded I'm at 5% bf at 210 lbs !!
Gett better results if you eat more dude !! better get some boxes of tribestan and prepare for the crash after wards as well as some chastenberry, and starting loadin that creatine !!
Gett better results if you eat more dude !! better get some boxes of tribestan and prepare for the crash after wards as well as some chastenberry, and starting loadin that creatine !!
1-AD WORKS!
I ve been on 1 AD for about a week now and notice a difference.
My chest got huge after one good chest day about 5 days ago.
My chest and my legs are the lag muscles on my body.
I might try 1 test when I finish this bottle of 1 AD. If theres anything OTC thats better let me know.
I ve been on 1 AD for about a week now and notice a difference.
My chest got huge after one good chest day about 5 days ago.
My chest and my legs are the lag muscles on my body.
I might try 1 test when I finish this bottle of 1 AD. If theres anything OTC thats better let me know.
Scaggs
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Well thats tuff for me to recommend being that I havn't had the chance to cycle Ergo's 1-ad. I can say this though, my next cycle of them, I would either go with Ergo's 1-ad or Avantlabs One+ and kinda leaning more towards One+ because it isn't oral and has 1-testosterone in it already (2.625 grams per bottle and 9.375 grams of 4-androstenediol) That will give you about 30 days and its only 89 bucks. I don't think i would go with VPX again untill i've tried those other two I just mentioned. As far as 1-test by VPX helping with pumps, strength and vascularity, it works. It's effects are very lean. It Depends on what you're looking for but I would say I wish I added 4-ad to it and that is what I like about One+. It has both. You should feel like a monster on that.
I hope that helps and thanks for the compliments.
Scaggs
Scaggs
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Bump for any of you out there looking for 1-test questions. This may help some of you.
The latest on me? Well I got bunk Var's and I think the AS is just not in the cards for myself. So PH's are my way to go. I took the past 3 months off for home remodeling. I've been working day and night redoing bathrooms, roof, floors, and bedrooms. I'm ready to go back in today actually and I think i'm going to put the NO2 to the test. Hopefully im one of the lucky ones it works on. When I do I'll mark up a post.
I posted the final pic after the 6 weeks of 1-test at the link on page 1 for anyone interested. Not much difference as you can see.
Scaggs
The latest on me? Well I got bunk Var's and I think the AS is just not in the cards for myself. So PH's are my way to go. I took the past 3 months off for home remodeling. I've been working day and night redoing bathrooms, roof, floors, and bedrooms. I'm ready to go back in today actually and I think i'm going to put the NO2 to the test. Hopefully im one of the lucky ones it works on. When I do I'll mark up a post.
I posted the final pic after the 6 weeks of 1-test at the link on page 1 for anyone interested. Not much difference as you can see.
Scaggs
Scaggs
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Ok this was my routine while on 1-test. You want detail, here you go.
Monday
~Leg Curls (pre-exhaust the hams) 2 sets 12 - 24 reps
~Stiff Legged Dlifts 3 sets 7 - 9
~Squats 3 sets 7-9 reps on final set jump right into leg extension no rest here 7-9 reps
~Leg extension after 90 sec brake 1 set 7-12
~Hack Calve raises 3 sets 12 -20 reps
~Standing Curls Supinated wide grip 3 sets 6 to 9 reps try to cheat to 12
~Incline Bicep Stretch curl - 1 set 6 to 9 reps cheat to 12 - quick drop the dumbells and pick up a lighter set and go 6 to 9 cheat again to 12 - quick drop and pick up another lighter set of dbells and do another 6 to 9 cheat to 12.
Finished with monday
Thursday:
~Leaning Dips - 1 set bodyweight by 10 reps followed by 2 more sets weighted 7 - 9 reps
~Chins 2 sets and after last rep of each set jump right onto the lat pulldown machine for about 5 to 7 reps
~2 sets solo on lat pulldown machine 6 to 9 reps and cheat to 12
~Seated Rows 3 sets 6-9 cheat to 12
~Rack Deads 3 sets 6-9 no cheats on these.
Finished with Thursday:
Following Monday I would pick up my 3rd day and rotate the days.
Next Monday:
~Verticle dips (no lean) 2 sets 7-9 weighted
~Incline Bench (30 degrees) 2 warmup sets and 3 working sets 7 - 9
~Cable Crossovers 3 sets 12 to 15 with 2 cheat reps
~Close Grip Bench Press - 3 sets 7-9 with 2 cheat reps
~Standing trycep push downs - 3 sets 7 -9 2 cheat reps
~Leg Press 2 warmup sets and 3 working sets 6-9 with 2 cheat reps
Finished with 3rd day.
Each with about 90 second to 2 min brake in between sets. On cold muscles that havn't been warmed from previous excersises i always did 2 warmup sets 50% of working weight. Cheat reps incase you don't know are done with very little help from a training buddy.
On off days, i would do neck, forearm and ab work
Creatine always right after workout and 30 minutes before workout. Quick absorbing protein immediately after workout and a high carb protein before bed and in between meals.
1-test 3 times a day 50cc and always 15gms creatine spaced throughout off days.
That was my regimen while on 1-test.
Don't forget what worked for me may not work for others but may help give you some ideas.
Scaggs
Monday
~Leg Curls (pre-exhaust the hams) 2 sets 12 - 24 reps
~Stiff Legged Dlifts 3 sets 7 - 9
~Squats 3 sets 7-9 reps on final set jump right into leg extension no rest here 7-9 reps
~Leg extension after 90 sec brake 1 set 7-12
~Hack Calve raises 3 sets 12 -20 reps
~Standing Curls Supinated wide grip 3 sets 6 to 9 reps try to cheat to 12
~Incline Bicep Stretch curl - 1 set 6 to 9 reps cheat to 12 - quick drop the dumbells and pick up a lighter set and go 6 to 9 cheat again to 12 - quick drop and pick up another lighter set of dbells and do another 6 to 9 cheat to 12.
Finished with monday
Thursday:
~Leaning Dips - 1 set bodyweight by 10 reps followed by 2 more sets weighted 7 - 9 reps
~Chins 2 sets and after last rep of each set jump right onto the lat pulldown machine for about 5 to 7 reps
~2 sets solo on lat pulldown machine 6 to 9 reps and cheat to 12
~Seated Rows 3 sets 6-9 cheat to 12
~Rack Deads 3 sets 6-9 no cheats on these.
Finished with Thursday:
Following Monday I would pick up my 3rd day and rotate the days.
Next Monday:
~Verticle dips (no lean) 2 sets 7-9 weighted
~Incline Bench (30 degrees) 2 warmup sets and 3 working sets 7 - 9
~Cable Crossovers 3 sets 12 to 15 with 2 cheat reps
~Close Grip Bench Press - 3 sets 7-9 with 2 cheat reps
~Standing trycep push downs - 3 sets 7 -9 2 cheat reps
~Leg Press 2 warmup sets and 3 working sets 6-9 with 2 cheat reps
Finished with 3rd day.
Each with about 90 second to 2 min brake in between sets. On cold muscles that havn't been warmed from previous excersises i always did 2 warmup sets 50% of working weight. Cheat reps incase you don't know are done with very little help from a training buddy.
On off days, i would do neck, forearm and ab work
Creatine always right after workout and 30 minutes before workout. Quick absorbing protein immediately after workout and a high carb protein before bed and in between meals.
1-test 3 times a day 50cc and always 15gms creatine spaced throughout off days.
That was my regimen while on 1-test.
Don't forget what worked for me may not work for others but may help give you some ideas.
Scaggs
N
Necrophagia
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I wanna try out 1-Test. Right now i'm pretty outa shape. Could lose about 50lbs of lard.
Think it would be effective to try something like this:
12 weeks fat loss
8 week cycle
12 week fat loss
8 week cycle
ect untill I got lean enough?
Think it would be effective to try something like this:
12 weeks fat loss
8 week cycle
12 week fat loss
8 week cycle
ect untill I got lean enough?
Scaggs
New member
I think if you want to lose that much lard, i would just hit the gym starting off slow, and increase intensity through time, do a lot of cardio and start with maybe VPX's Clenbutrx fat burner. I've heard good things about it. Once you get your weight down then hit the 1-test to harden you. Thats what I would do. Lots of protein and lower carbs. And Eat right.
Scaggs
Scaggs
Looks good bro1 Good to see another person that loves 1-AD (err 1-TEST)...
I'm currently stacking 1-AD with Dbol (35mg/day) and i'm just on week 2 right now. Have you seen my results with 1-ad? http://www.mhcable.com/~nettech/weight.html
Also in your next cycle I would suggest the topical 4-AD as I had almost no side effects when I stacked it with that.
My current cycle is this:
1-AD 700mg/day
Dbol 35mg/day
4-AD 12 sprays/day
after week 1 I'm up the 6lbs I lost from my last cycle to a solid 200lbs. I'm hoping for 210lbs from this cycle. I'll post results from this current cycle on the same page so stay tuned for more.
I'm currently stacking 1-AD with Dbol (35mg/day) and i'm just on week 2 right now. Have you seen my results with 1-ad? http://www.mhcable.com/~nettech/weight.html
Also in your next cycle I would suggest the topical 4-AD as I had almost no side effects when I stacked it with that.
My current cycle is this:
1-AD 700mg/day
Dbol 35mg/day
4-AD 12 sprays/day
after week 1 I'm up the 6lbs I lost from my last cycle to a solid 200lbs. I'm hoping for 210lbs from this cycle. I'll post results from this current cycle on the same page so stay tuned for more.
andezzz999
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This stuff is good. I did a cycle myself and put on 10 lbs fast, 15 total. After the cycle I netted about 8 lbs, still good. The only side came after the cycle and I lost a little libbido, just about a week of recovery. I used Super 1+ which is the gel form of 4-ad. Good stuff, I will give it another go in a month or so.
Scaggs
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Yea, well the topical route is the way I want to go next. I wanted Avantlabs but last i checked the pulled transdermals off their site. Super 1+? Who makes it?
69muscle, wow you bulked up on that. Dam good. Its nice to see real gains isn't it?
How's the dbol stack working out for ya? I always wanted to try that.
Scaggs
69muscle, wow you bulked up on that. Dam good. Its nice to see real gains isn't it?
How's the dbol stack working out for ya? I always wanted to try that.
Scaggs
So far pretty good. 1-AD always took like 2 weeks to kick in fully. Dbol kicks in on the end of week 1. So last night in the gym I had some insane pumps. I'm running this cycle for 5 weeks and i'm hoping for 10lbs more. I'm eating and training like a dawg though!
I can't wait till week 3 when both are kicked in fully, that's gonna be an awesome week at the gym!
I'll keep you posted, it's too early to tell yet.
I can't wait till week 3 when both are kicked in fully, that's gonna be an awesome week at the gym!
I'll keep you posted, it's too early to tell yet.
My last cycle I used .25mg of Aimirdex along with an assload of Trib and I never felt any loss of libido or anything. Now my first 1-AD cycle without the 4-AD whooo dawg... I lost all my gains and couldn't get it up to save my life.
I think the stack with 4-AD helps a lot!
No hairloss, I've never been prone to that (I hope) just some slight headaches from the dbol and I find I get angry easier... just gotta control that. I relate it to me being bigger and puffy now that I find I don't take as much shit as I used to.
I think the stack with 4-AD helps a lot!
No hairloss, I've never been prone to that (I hope) just some slight headaches from the dbol and I find I get angry easier... just gotta control that. I relate it to me being bigger and puffy now that I find I don't take as much shit as I used to.
Lumberg
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What's all this talk about transdermals? I thought ALL transdermals were taken off the market?
1+ is One+, an avantlabs formulation. One is just 1-test, one + is 1-test plus 4-AD. I wanted to try that shit so bad but they pulled it like 3 weeks before I tried to order it and by then no one had it.
JC
1+ is One+, an avantlabs formulation. One is just 1-test, one + is 1-test plus 4-AD. I wanted to try that shit so bad but they pulled it like 3 weeks before I tried to order it and by then no one had it.
JC
Scaggs
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they did pull the One+ transdermal Avantlabs down. I don't know why, but i have a feeling that it will be back. i wish i bought some before. yea one+ is 1-test with 4-ad awsome stack for me.
hey 69muscle im dying to see after pics of your dbal stack bro. you gotta send me a link
Scaggs
hey 69muscle im dying to see after pics of your dbal stack bro. you gotta send me a link
Scaggs
Scaggs
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About your other question joncrane,
the creatine kicks ass. even though the water drops off when you stop your cycle, the increased energy and recovery from it is all well worth it. I can hit the iron much harder and longer, which will in-turn give me better gains indirectly. they all have their part to play and i always feel a difference while cycling creatine.
The reason i will know if the NO2 is bunk is because i am going to add it later in my cycle. i already know what to expect from 1-test / creatine. the only diff this time around will be NO2 and 4-ad added to the stack. NO2 either first and Super One+ added later or vise versa. I expect good things to happen. Don't worry I'll keep you posted.
Scaggs
the creatine kicks ass. even though the water drops off when you stop your cycle, the increased energy and recovery from it is all well worth it. I can hit the iron much harder and longer, which will in-turn give me better gains indirectly. they all have their part to play and i always feel a difference while cycling creatine.
The reason i will know if the NO2 is bunk is because i am going to add it later in my cycle. i already know what to expect from 1-test / creatine. the only diff this time around will be NO2 and 4-ad added to the stack. NO2 either first and Super One+ added later or vise versa. I expect good things to happen. Don't worry I'll keep you posted.
Scaggs
FunkMasterFlex
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I had real similiar results with mag -10 double dosing. I was lifting double sessions and eating 6000 cals a day haha but 16 lbs in 4 weeks and only 3-4 lbs of fat and my body fat was only 9% when i was done so i obviously was high in cals(prob too much carbs) I think alot of the weight was glycogen, but i kept 12 of it after 2 months so im happy. Strength was sick...as far as vascualirty plasma expandor by VPX was def the best...i didnt believe it at first but man my arms are sweet now...i even have the split in both biceps ....and some nice veines. Thats was my first real PH run, i used 3 extreme eevery summer by AST that was awesome but the ephedra in it made me crazy after 6 weeks. Looks like i might ahve to try the 1-ad splittin it up .....VPX gave a lil thing for my work and they had some meathead guy who didnt know shit there. I have to say pinnacle held thebest meeting, but i dont see there products jumpin off the shelf.
Scaggs
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I just looked at thier site and their advice has changed. it used to be 50mg's twice a day, morning and night, now it is 3 times a day like i was doing. i may have the CC's mixed up, but whatever amount of CC's it is to supply 50mgs a day is what i was taking. I think its 6 CC's to supply a 50mg 1-test solution. total of 150mg's of 1-test a day exactly what their site says. and yea i thought it was safe. I experience zero sides even post cycle.
Scaggs
Scaggs
Scaggs
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Eat alot. 1.5 gms of protein per lb of bodywieght. Try to eat every 2 to 3 hours (small meals) or take a protein in between. try 2 working sets and 2 warmups sets at 50% of working weight. 2 days a week training with 2 full rest days in between. stick with core moves. all compound movements. the ones that hurt the most, squats, deadlifts, clean and jerk, clean and press, millie presses, leg presses, bench presses, dips chins, lat pulldowns, etc. weed out all the isolation exercises (leg extensions, trycep pulldowns, calve raises, etc.) just for now, they will just chip at your body's reserves. Add the PH's and you should see results. Some body parts may need more work than others to respond. Its really a trial and error at first. overtraining is always common in the first year of training.
My diet cosists of tuna, chicken, grilled chicken parms, ham and egg sandwiches, roast beef sandwiches, steak, potatoes, grilled chicken salads, veggies, flax seed, multivitamins, creatine, nlarge2, optimum whey, ramon noodles, ezmac, eggs, bacon, whole wheat toast, and sometimes i cheat and eat pure junk. mac daddies, fried foods, buttered bagels and snack foods like yodels. i have a soaring metab so i never get fat.
Most of all dont neglect your protein intake. You wont grow without it, period.
Scaggs
My diet cosists of tuna, chicken, grilled chicken parms, ham and egg sandwiches, roast beef sandwiches, steak, potatoes, grilled chicken salads, veggies, flax seed, multivitamins, creatine, nlarge2, optimum whey, ramon noodles, ezmac, eggs, bacon, whole wheat toast, and sometimes i cheat and eat pure junk. mac daddies, fried foods, buttered bagels and snack foods like yodels. i have a soaring metab so i never get fat.
Most of all dont neglect your protein intake. You wont grow without it, period.
Scaggs
sermon_of_crockery
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cool, I just bought some myself.
his exact words were, yes we have some in stock _for now_.
his exact words were, yes we have some in stock _for now_.
FunkMasterFlex
New member
yodels rule haha i havent had one in freakin 2 yrs ......haha
right now im eating natural P-nut butter and assorted nuts mix ( haha) and acutally losing fat... i think between all the monounsaturated fats and tonalin (6 grams a day) my mid section is awesome even though im at 4200-4500 cals a day 30% fat..... weird how that is. Im gonan look into for on higher fats diets ill get back to this post
right now im eating natural P-nut butter and assorted nuts mix ( haha) and acutally losing fat... i think between all the monounsaturated fats and tonalin (6 grams a day) my mid section is awesome even though im at 4200-4500 cals a day 30% fat..... weird how that is. Im gonan look into for on higher fats diets ill get back to this post
I already get 1.5g of protein a day and about 2700 cals a day, I think the problem was with carbs and fat. I've just started adding 3tbs of olive oil a day to my diet and I've gained about 7lbs in a month, don't know my bf% very low though. I really want to try the phs but everyoe's telling me not to, saying that I should grow naturally before I touch phs or pss. Do you have any regrets ?
Scaggs
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I don't have any regrets no! Like I said, I was 22 when I started PH's. At 22 you really do have enough hormones to grow without them but, if you want results a little faster PH's can help. For me, I think what PH's did the most for me was get me out of that hump. The spot where my body refused to grow. Once the motion was started, growing became easier. I almost want to say they jump started my growth. I actually never grew from training untill I picked up PH's and found a good routine that worked for me. All in all, you gotta make the decision on your own. Things to expect from them on the downside include: some hairloss if your proned to male pattern baldness, acne, back acne, loss of libido or extreme libido (horny as hell) nut shrinkage (temporary)gyno rebound if your prone to it, and stray hair growth on the back and arms. On the upside, your strength will increase, you'll grow mucsles, and recover faster. It's not for sure you will even see any side effects of them or maybe you might just get a few. I got back pimples from Androdiones but I was growing. I also was horny 24/7 constant hardon's throughout sleeping. No other sides. Weigh it out?
Oh by the way, Straight 1-test sublingal did not give me a single side on a 6 week cycle like the androdiones did.
Scaggs
Oh by the way, Straight 1-test sublingal did not give me a single side on a 6 week cycle like the androdiones did.
Scaggs
ProperlyPumped
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I agree, the only time I use PHs is when I reach that spot where I'm not progressing like I think I should. I've gained some decent size off of PHs in the past and I'm fixing to start a cycle of a nice super transdermal.
JollyRogers
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Im on a cycle of 1d 5d, its been 2 weeks, I have already gained 6 lbs, was 175, now 181, all clean eating with my cardo
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