3rd Cycle after 6 years off, what's changed? Advice?

[jbw5555]

Unleashed is good shit and it really does what it says. HCgenerate is completely legit too. It wouldnt be a bad idea to run unleashed throughout the entire cycle. You'll get more out of your test.
The only thing i personally would change is bumping it to 12 or 14 weeks instead of 10. The test really gets working in week 5-6 so it seems a shame to cut it off so early. Thats just personal preference though, you do what you think is best for your body. Also you might wanna run that same arimidex dose through to the end of PCT and definatley hit the HCgenerate through the entire PCT at like 10 caps per day minimum.
Your on the right track though. Simple is good and test is best.

Funny, though, when I posted this I thought that I should run the test 12 weeks, so that may be the thought.

The other option that I considered is front-loading the test instead. Is there any benefit to just doing that? Say run 750 for weeks 1&2, or 1,000 for the first week? But still stick to a 10 week total.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Funny, though, when I posted this I thought that I should run the test 12 weeks, so that may be the thought.

The other option that I considered is front-loading the test instead. Is there any benefit to just doing that? Say run 750 for weeks 1&2, or 1,000 for the first week? But still stick to a 10 week total.

the total duration is up to you. I still personally wouldnt run less than 12 weeks. Unless it were a prop only cycle. You'll get mixed reviews on front loading. If it were sustanon I would say pin 1ml eod for the first few weeks but that's a different test than your running. I personally have run prop at the beginning of a test e cycle for 3-4 weeks to get things going sooner. If you wanted to front load the test e and make it work I think you would probably need to front load enough where you'd start to see unwanted sides. Just be patient

 

[jbw5555]

OK thanks for all the feedback. I went back and completed more research on the OTC PCT products and I'm certainly willing to give 'em a try. here's my revised proposed cycle:

wks 1-10 Test enthanate 500mg/wk (2 shots per week)
wks 1-4 dbol 30-50MG/ED (will vary dosage based on body feedback)
wks 1-10 Arimidex .25 EOD

wks 1-10 N2Guard
wks 5-12 HCGenerate
wks 11-14 Unleashed/post cycle combo

The only question that I haven't found a solid answer on, is how long to run Unleashed/PCT combo? I assumed 4 weeks was long enough, but is this correct? I'm also assuming the there's no harm in running it for longer periods of time?

thanks agin for the feedback. Looking froward to getting this cycle going in early feb!

Ok, update here... Had a big delay in getting my stuff, so I missed my feb start goal.

I'm just in the beginning of week 4 of this cycle. I did not make major changes to my diet when kicking this cycle off, same calorie intake, as my goal here is lean body mass. My diet pre cycle was very clean. I'm up 10 solid pounds so far, weighed in at 204 today, with no noticeable water retention or smoothness that I would expect, or have experienced in he past, with the dbol kick start... I'm only running the dbol at 30mgs/day and the sides so far have been non existent. This last week I plan to run it at 40mgs/ day

Looking forward to the test enthanate kicking in in the upcoming weeks, so far happy with the gains to date, and my strength gains have been good so far too.

The only change from the original plan is that I'm pinning 500 mgs/wk via a single shot. My lifestyle just does not afford me the opportunity to get in 2 shots per week.

My last shot was a quad shot, first time I ever did not do a glute shot. All I can say, and advice to others, learn to do quad shots... It's just soooooo much easier

 

[anonymity]

10 pounds in the first four weeks is good going bro! Keep us updated on how your cycle goes, will be interested in hearing.

and couldn't agree more with the quad shots, I moved there from glute and they are so easy in comparison

 

[jbw5555]

Ok, update here... Had a big delay in getting my stuff, so I missed my feb start goal.

I'm just in the beginning of week 4 of this cycle. I did not make major changes to my diet when kicking this cycle off, same calorie intake, as my goal here is lean body mass. My diet pre cycle was very clean. I'm up 10 solid pounds so far, weighed in at 204 today, with no noticeable water retention or smoothness that I would expect, or have experienced in he past, with the dbol kick start... I'm only running the dbol at 30mgs/day and the sides so far have been non existent. This last week I plan to run it at 40mgs/ day

Looking forward to the test enthanate kicking in in the upcoming weeks, so far happy with the gains to date, and my strength gains have been good so far too.

The only change from the original plan is that I'm pinning 500 mgs/wk via a single shot. My lifestyle just does not afford me the opportunity to get in 2 shots per week.

My last shot was a quad shot, first time I ever did not do a glute shot. All I can say, and advice to others, learn to do quad shots... It's just soooooo much easier

Ok another update here, and another minor change. I decided after reading some more to add proviron at the end of this cycle for 4 weeks. Running it 50mgs/day. I'm at the beginning of week 9 now.

I'm at about 209lbs now, putting me up 15 lbs so far. I've seem to have plateaued at that weight for the last 2/2.5 weeks. Again, did not change much in my diet as I was very clean before, very noticeable lean muscle mass gain to date. very happy with the results. Not sure what the proviron is adding to it, but I do seem a bit harder and definitely a little more vascular... Seeing veins in the shoulders these days.

Hardest thing the past week is that I'm hungry as hell all the time, so I will begin to add a few small high quality snacks to my diet to see if that helps, and also see if it helps to break thru the weight plateau as well

For OCT I'm running hcgenerate and unleashed right now.

Feel great, biggest negative is the joint pain I have (probably just due to the heavier weights and my age). Added some fish oil a few weeks back that seemed to help.

Would like to post progress pics, but don't have platinum, any suggestions on a good anonymous pic sharing site?

 

[Aplopez8]

Cool keep us posted! What pct did u decide?

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok another update here, and another minor change. I decided after reading some more to add proviron at the end of this cycle for 4 weeks. Running it 50mgs/day. I'm at the beginning of week 9 now.

I'm at about 209lbs now, putting me up 15 lbs so far. I've seem to have plateaued at that weight for the last 2/2.5 weeks. Again, did not change much in my diet as I was very clean before, very noticeable lean muscle mass gain to date. very happy with the results. Not sure what the proviron is adding to it, but I do seem a bit harder and definitely a little more vascular... Seeing veins in the shoulders these days.

Hardest thing the past week is that I'm hungry as hell all the time, so I will begin to add a few small high quality snacks to my diet to see if that helps, and also see if it helps to break thru the weight plateau as well

For OCT I'm running hcgenerate and unleashed right now.

Feel great, biggest negative is the joint pain I have (probably just due to the heavier weights and my age). Added some fish oil a few weeks back that seemed to help.

Would like to post progress pics, but don't have platinum, any suggestions on a good anonymous pic sharing site?

forged joint repair and skeletal balm are fucking great for joint pain bro... you might want to take a look at those...