2nd cycle deca sus250 hgh

[massive1982]

i have enough to run this for 8 weeks at
500mg sus250 p/week
400mg deca p/week
200iu of jintropin

is this cycle long enough i would like to do longer but my job prevents me.
stats 6ft2 78 kg b/f10% i understand sleep and food play a big part in the gains but what sort of gain should i be looking at. 1st cycle was 500mg p/week test etha 50mg eod winstrol for 6 weeks.

 

[Nucman]

No-one can tell you how much you will gain with any cycle. This has been askied a million times before. Deca should be used for 12wks min IMO. Effects wont be seen for about 4 wks. PCT must be lined up, because Deca will shut you down hard. "200iu of jintropin"????? Better do a little more research on HGH. 8 wks is a total wast of money. Timing, dosage, slin, duration.... I think 900mg/wk may be a little excessive for a second cycle, but not totally unreasonable. HGH?? Never as an addition to a second cycle. For 8wks, just plain silly.

I think you[ll grow just fine on the same dose as your 1st cycle. Save the deca for when you can run a long one 12-16wks. Get PCT in order. Good luck, workout and eat like an animal.

 

[Indy]

i have enough to run this for 8 weeks at
500mg sus250 p/week
400mg deca p/week
200iu of jintropin

is this cycle long enough i would like to do longer but my job prevents me.
stats 6ft2 78 kg b/f10% i understand sleep and food play a big part in the gains but what sort of gain should i be looking at. 1st cycle was 500mg p/week test etha 50mg eod winstrol for 6 weeks.

HGH is way too short, you will get abit leaner in that time frame, but that's it, no anabolic effects, they kick in around month 4. The start of the 2nd month on this 6mo HGH cycle is when I dropped all the fat around the midsection, and still ate alot, clean, but alot.

 

[black sheep]

May I ask how your job prevents it from being a 10 week cycle rather than 8?

My opinion is that this cycle would be better at 10 weeks. I would save the HGH, and get enough to run 26 weeks. Then run that after your PCT.

 

[mrplunkey]

I agree you need a long run of HGH (i.e. 6 months) to really see good returns. Also, I'd never start HGH with an AAS cycle -- always jump-start the HGH for 3-4 weeks so if you do get the HGH sides (edema, joint pain) you can lower the dose and work through them before you start your AAS.

Also, with HGH, do not ever hesitate to back-off a little, let sides subside, then go back up on the dose. I jumped from 2 IU's/day (always start low) to 4 IU's/day a little too early and got lots of joint pain. I didn't back-down, instead thinking I'd just plow-through the sides -- and it didn't work that way. I hurt for 8 weeks solid. Then, I backed-down to 2 IU's/day for a little less than two weeks, felt better, and then took it back up to 4 IU's/day and have seen *zero* sides.

Maybe a naive question, but aren't deca gains more "keepable" than test-based gains? If so (and I could be wrong), wouldn't you want to do a little more deca and maybe a little less test? I'm doing something very similar right now -- 250 test/week, 450 deca/week, 50 mg IM winny EoD, 4 IU's HGH/day (5 on 2 off).

And yes, I've been running HGH for months before my cycle.

 

[Apexx]

Maybe a naive question, but aren't deca gains more "keepable" than test-based gains? If so (and I could be wrong), wouldn't you want to do a little more deca and maybe a little less test? I'm doing something very similar right now -- 250 test/week, 450 deca/week, 50 mg IM winny EoD, 4 IU's HGH/day (5 on 2 off)

If your question is will deca produce more lean mass then test, I think that can only be answered on an individual bases. I'm still in single digits for the number of cycles I've done, but in my experience I gain more lean muscle from test.

 

[Outtlaw]

Like the others said, Id go for 10wks and hold off on the gh until you have at least 500iu.

 

[mrplunkey]

If your question is will deca produce more lean mass then test, I think that can only be answered on an individual bases. I'm still in single digits for the number of cycles I've done, but in my experience I gain more lean muscle from test.

Several months ago I began looking into anti-aging, HRT and AAS. I definately saw myself as an infrequent user as opposted to a "shots for life" type of guy. Therefore, "keepable gains" were one of my top priorities. At the time, deca and HGH emerged near the top of the "keepable gains" list and a recent post with an AAS ranking table had deca and hgh well-rated as "keepable gains" as well.

So fast forward... I start HRT, but the doc wants me to do HGH and Test Cypo for first cycle (for a number of reasons). Now, i'm currently in my second cycle and he did a Deca/Winny/Test/HGH combo saying it would yield more "keepable" gains than straight Test (even with comperable gram-per-gram dosages). Is this accurate?

My HGH/cypo cycle was great in that I leaned-up and took on mass, but I swear I believe a good 8+ lbs of it was just water (hence it vaporized). I had solid PCT, but got a nasty sinus infection and was hence put on a prescription antibiotic and decongestant that ravaged me for 20 days straight. Hence, I really can't accurately gague my first cycle results, but my overall perception is that I kept a good bit of the fat loss and lost a lot of the percieved LBM (either lost water or lost true muscle due to being sick).

Thanks in advance,

 

[massive1982]

[so you are saying 500mg sus for 8 weeks and cut the deca out. i've got a friend that used deca sus and hgh and the guy blew up in 4 weeks 5iu hgh a day 500mg sus 400deca a week i find it hard to see how just 500mg sus will give as good gains.

 

[Outtlaw]

Keep the deca in, and run them both for 10wks. Save the gh.