23yr old blast and cruise?

[stevesmi]

Yes I will have a look about see where I'm going wrong cheers

a lot of times its estrogen related. my first injectable cycle i listened to guys who don't even cycle for advice on other boards, i went through a bad pct and it was scary. through trial and error i figured out what i was doing wrong and IMO a lot of it was estrogen related. i wasn't controlling it on cycle and then off cycle i was crushing it too much. caused a major roller coaster.

 

[Soadman]

a lot of times its estrogen related. my first injectable cycle i listened to guys who don't even cycle for advice on other boards, i went through a bad pct and it was scary. through trial and error i figured out what i was doing wrong and IMO a lot of it was estrogen related. i wasn't controlling it on cycle and then off cycle i was crushing it too much. caused a major roller coaster.

Yea well I haven't been using an ai mate no one as em round here for some reason so I only had nolva on hand but I don't seem to have problem with gyno last cycle was 1000mg a week test e and still no gyno made some good gains leaned out a lot now I'm 3 week in pct feeling ok lost a few pounds but I obviously need an ai !
Oh and my pct is
50mg clomid daily
Hcgenerate
Horny goat weed for limp dick lol
Tribulus
Nolvadex 20mg daily
Vitamin c high dose
Couldn't get hcg either but I ain't doing another cycle without it!!!
Nuts are starting to come back slowly but after a workout my bag is real tight very worried after workouts!
Next cycle I'm gonna drop the test to 750mg no higher 1000mg is completely unnessasary guys at the gym saying I need atleast a gram a week bs !

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ the nolva and clomid stack is making you feel shitty my friend. been there and done that myself. i don't understand why guys continue to torture themselves like this with pct's designed by guys who are on TRT for life.

you need a better pct like i sent you through PM.

have you ever wondered why guys who recommend nolva/clomid are all on TRT? ALL OF THEM ARE!!! cause they end up like you and give up on pct so say fuck it let me stay on for life. so then they go on TRT and continue re-gurgitating that same pct to others as if its gospel. or if they aren't on TRT they come off for 3 weeks, feel like shit then jump back on which isn't even coming off in the first place. and then declare themselves geniuses cause they kept their gains (duh cause the esters never cleared their body!!)

i can only lead you to water, i cannot make you drink

 

[Soadman]

^^^ the nolva and clomid stack is making you feel shitty my friend. been there and done that myself. i don't understand why guys continue to torture themselves like this with pct's designed by guys who are on TRT for life.

you need a better pct like i sent you through PM.

have you ever wondered why guys who recommend nolva/clomid are all on TRT? ALL OF THEM ARE!!! cause they end up like you and give up on pct so say fuck it let me stay on for life. i can only lead you to water, i cannot make you drink

Yes man I agree I've been trying my ass off to get hcg but can't get it I'm gonna leave it now tho cause nuts are coming back slowly my own fault I know but when you only have one source and he doesn't use hcg there's nothing I could do mate!
And I truly appreciate your advice Steve really just couldn't get the hcg Pal!
Yes and he told me to take 3 week off like you say but I'm not I'm taking few month off pal...
I even found a source online but he wanted £50 for 5000iu I ain't paying that much for it...
If the nuts are coming back is that a good sign or am I not out the woods yet cause last cycle I ran nolva clomid nuts can back and I was fine !
No bloodwork to prove it like but I felt ok?
When would a good time be to get blood work done how long after cycle ?

 

[SinisterUproar]

Yes man I agree I've been trying my ass off to get hcg but can't get it I'm gonna leave it now tho cause nuts are coming back slowly my own fault I know but when you only have one source and he doesn't use hcg there's nothing I could do mate!
And I truly appreciate your advice Steve really just couldn't get the hcg Pal!
Yes and he told me to take 3 week off like you say but I'm not I'm taking few month off pal...
I even found a source online but he wanted £50 for 5000iu I ain't paying that much for it...
If the nuts are coming back is that a good sign or am I not out the woods yet cause last cycle I ran nolva clomid nuts can back and I was fine !
No bloodwork to prove it like but I felt ok?
When would a good time be to get blood work done how long after cycle ?

That's really not that bad a price for HCG bro

 

[Soadman]

That's really not that bad a price for HCG bro

Dude £50 is 74 dollars that is expensive!
For 5000iu

 

[CaliRobK]

Dude £50 is 74 dollars that is expensive!
For 5000iu

My gains and for sure my balls are worth way more than 74 bucks to me...

 

[stevesmi]

yes get bloodwork and post them up to see where things are at

 

[Soadman]

My gains and for sure my balls are worth way more than 74 bucks to me...

Well my balls are on the way back any way and I haven't lost any size at all just few pounds water weight and its too late for hcg now any way it would probably slow down recovery at this point!
Gonna get bloodwork any way so ill pos up when I get that sorted !