2000mg a week, better gains?

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

hi guys,

running 300mg tren and 450 test at present. 750 total. 10th cycle in four years. always run small amounts. currently at 215, week 5, 5`8 tall, bf 11%

what i wanna know is would upping the test to 1g a week, the tren to 400 a week and chucking in something else like EQ or primo at 500mg a week cause me to blow right up or should i stick to lower dosages and make slower but steady progress?

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

also what are the sides of higher dosages?
if i do long acting test i get bad acne but i am ok with prop. will running a g of prop a week with the other stuff really help?

 

[tzan]

Remember guy it's a marathon, not a sprint(my point in the other thread). Nothing wrong with upping the dosages a little, but Your talkin about more than doubling it. You will be more prone to sides at higher dosages. Example:If your already getting acne from test at 450mg, then upping it to 1000mg will just cause it to be a lot more drastic. You will also be much more suseptible to other sides.

 

[uglyass]

It affects everyone different, as long as I drink plenty of water I don't really get many sides at all. Otherwise I get acne and moon face.

The more I shoot the bigger I get, simple. Ulter posted a study proving this a while back.

UglyASS

 

[Throw2Far]

After 10 cycles, yes you will need to up the doses HEAVILY to keep the same leaps you made in the past with small amounts of AAS. I've only run 5 cycles, all of which being relatively light (heaviest was 500 test/300 Tren for 10 weeks).

Many will say its not worth going over a gram, due to health risks. The pros obviously do it and if you want to push the envelope thats the way to do it. @ 5'8" and 215 11% you're pretty jacked. If your goals include becoming even more massive than you should up your doses. HOWEVER, remember that your genetic limit has most likely been reached after 10 cycles and you may be past it. That means you'll have to cycle for the rest of your life to hold on to any gains that you make from here on out... Just be sure you are ready for this lifestyle to be permanent before traveling down this road.

One of my friends came to this crossroads and chose the never-ending cycle and is making millions of dollars because of it... Just make sure its worth it to you.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

i dont really get acne at 450 a week. have ran 500 sust before, with 400 dec and some dbol but like tren and prop more.
surely its worth running these higher doses and see if i get sides, if i do just drop it down a little?
would would be a good ratio of test to tren to primo for a mass builidng stack?

 

[view]

From 1200mg a week to 1800mg of gear a week I got no better gains but got higher bloodpressure and a higher RBC count... fwiw.

 

[LT3]

why do u want primo so bad in there, why not deca. yes i know deca and tren spells trouble but fuck bro, if you wanna blow up, stick to the basics.

 

[BigCracker]

After 10 cycles, yes you will need to up the doses HEAVILY to keep the same leaps you made in the past with small amounts of AAS. I've only run 5 cycles, all of which being relatively light (heaviest was 500 test/300 Tren for 10 weeks).

Many will say its not worth going over a gram, due to health risks. The pros obviously do it and if you want to push the envelope thats the way to do it. @ 5'8" and 215 11% you're pretty jacked. If your goals include becoming even more massive than you should up your doses. HOWEVER, remember that your genetic limit has most likely been reached after 10 cycles and you may be past it. That means you'll have to cycle for the rest of your life to hold on to any gains that you make from here on out... Just be sure you are ready for this lifestyle to be permanent before traveling down this road.

One of my friends came to this crossroads and chose the never-ending cycle and is making millions of dollars because of it... Just make sure its worth it to you.

What does your millions of dollars making friend do for $$$?

 

[tzan]

why do u want primo so bad in there, why not deca. yes i know deca and tren spells trouble but fuck bro, if you wanna blow up, stick to the basics.

Agreed!!

You said you want a "mass building stack". Nothing beats the ol' dbol/test/deca stack.

wks1-4 60mg dbol
wks1-12 750mg test
wks1-12 600mg deca

 

[cubuff27]

Up your calories to about 5000 calories a day and see what happens. AFTER that, increase your dosage.

I have seen way too many people spend gobs of money upping thier dosage when all they needed to do was eat more. I proved it myself this year when I simply leveled out at 230 no matter what dosage I tried. I added some EQ to help increase my appetite and left everything else the same. Caused me to eat about a 1000 extra calories a day and now I have put on 10 pounds in the last 10 weeks.

EAT MORE!

 

[LT3]

wks1-4 60mg dbol
wks1-12 750mg test
wks1-12 600mg deca

There u go bro, if this doesnt do it, i dont know what will, and if u feel lucky, then raise the test to a gram (personally i dont think u'd see a diff from 750 to 1 g), that stack right there should help you achieve your goal.

 

[boxerjake]

I'm all for the basics as well ....... if it's mass your after then go with the proven mass builders and " eat " ...

I've only done 5 cycles .... the largest being d-bol test and deca at which time i was 248 lbs @ 5' 10 " with a 32 " waiste...

At which point i was in the 7000 calories a day range !!! chicken and turkey and tuna and steak,meal after meal after meal .....

If you wait till your hungry then it's too late !!! eat eat eat and then eat some more

I've got tons of buddies that expect the gear to do " all " the work ... sure they put in the time in the gym " but " they don't rest properly and they definatly eat like shit ...

You know where you can find some big mf "ers ? " in prisons " thats where !!

There diet might not be spot on , but they do get the rest and thats real important if you want to grow .. think those guys have half as much gear to inject ? yet they get pretty big while behind bars .

So ... inject your gear ... eat till you can't eat any more ... and rest = new growth

 

[BOWTECH]

See how your body responds. You could up things slightly but I wouldn't get crazy. It's always best to use as little as possible to reach the goals you are looking for. More isn't always better. Just because you double the gear does not mean you will double your gains. Sides now that's a different story. Good luck too you!

 

[big_boy_1]

hi guys,

running 300mg tren and 450 test at present. 750 total. 10th cycle in four years. always run small amounts. currently at 215, week 5, 5`8 tall, bf 11%

what i wanna know is would upping the test to 1g a week, the tren to 400 a week and chucking in something else like EQ or primo at 500mg a week cause me to blow right up or should i stick to lower dosages and make slower but steady progress?

Yes, you will grow more.
But its wise to stop the cycle, make some pct, and THEN start the other cycle.
With 1 g test youll likely have some headaches and high blood pressure tough.
Test enanthate feels way most powerful than sustanon at high dosages.

 

[scout69]

I agree with a few of you Deca would deffinately help blowing up, and the side affects will be higher if you already have them but hey I've known people to shoot 1,000mg of Test a week with hardly any sides and I've see people on 250 a week get sides..It's all on your body..Like Russian roulette ond oh how I love to gamble...

 

[paridhm]

I agree with the "use a little as possible" philosophy. But lets say on an average basis; how much do you think you should raise your dosage percentage wise on each cycle? 25% or more, maybe 15%?

 

[LT3]

I agree with the "use a little as possible" philosophy. But lets say on an average basis; how much do you think you should raise your dosage percentage wise on each cycle? 25% or more, maybe 15%?

Bro personally i adjust accordingly, i have not done more than 500mgs of test per week because i still gain off of it. i dont think you have to increase your dosage each cycle, just keep it the same until you are not happy with the results.i hope i wont have to do more than 500mgs of test per week (highly unlikely) but thats my perspective.

 

[LVTitan]

See how your body responds. You could up things slightly but I wouldn't get crazy. It's always best to use as little as possible to reach the goals you are looking for. More isn't always better. Just because you double the gear does not mean you will double your gains. Sides now that's a different story. Good luck too you!

listen to this man

 

[mendo]

hi guys,

running 300mg tren and 450 test at present. 750 total. 10th cycle in four years. always run small amounts. currently at 215, week 5, 5`8 tall, bf 11%

what i wanna know is would upping the test to 1g a week, the tren to 400 a week and chucking in something else like EQ or primo at 500mg a week cause me to blow right up or should i stick to lower dosages and make slower but steady progress?

What are you gonna do for the next cycle after that? 3000mg? The main reason for small increases is that you can't really go back. Once your body is used to 2g cycles, a 750mg cycle isn't gonna give you much. On the other hand you can still get decent gains over the long haul from starting low and adding a little in each time.

 

[LVTitan]

What are you gonna do for the next cycle after that? 3000mg? The main reason for small increases is that you can't really go back. Once your body is used to 2g cycles, a 750mg cycle isn't gonna give you much. On the other hand you can still get decent gains over the long haul from starting low and adding a little in each time.

listen to this man too