2 Weeks in PCT - Concerned

[lazer84]

I just posted this in the PCT forum, but hoping for quick advice - I need it. damn

Hey guys,
I finished the following cycle about 3 wks ago
1-12 300mg Test Enth/wk
1-12 500mg primo/wk
1-12 liquidex .25 eod

I took 14 days off last pin and started the following

HCGenerate: 5-7 cap daily total (split up AM/PM)
Forma Stanzol: 3-5 squirts twice daily - currently cannot get anymore out of the bottle - trust me I tried everything.

Erections: Few
Orgasm: Pretty f'ing hard - takes forever
Slight aches in balls still.

I realize I probably planned a shitty PCT and I'm 40. What would you suggest I do now?

Thanks for your help.

 

[wcjcMr.O]

Some will probably bash me for this. But I would run low dose clomid for 4 weeks. I did 25mg/day during my pct and I think it helped alot. I didnt have one physical or emotional side while taking it and my balls and loads were pretty huge while on it. You could always run some Phytoserms, I havent tried it yet but I know people that have had great experiences with it and a friend of mine says its the best test booster he's ever taken.

 

[Stryker1992]

I just posted this in the PCT forum, but hoping for quick advice - I need it. damn

Hey guys,
I finished the following cycle about 3 wks ago
1-12 300mg Test Enth/wk
1-12 500mg primo/wk
1-12 liquidex .25 eod

I took 14 days off last pin and started the following

HCGenerate: 5-7 cap daily total (split up AM/PM)
Forma Stanzol: 3-5 squirts twice daily - currently cannot get anymore out of the bottle - trust me I tried everything.

Erections: Few
Orgasm: Pretty f'ing hard - takes forever
Slight aches in balls still.

I realize I probably planned a shitty PCT and I'm 40. What would you suggest I do now?

Thanks for your help.

Are you still on forma now? HCgenerate?

If not you need to get forged post cycle or something to boost HPTA recovery.

 

[lazer84]

Are you still on forma now? HCgenerate?

If not you need to get forged post cycle or something to boost HPTA recovery.

I still am on HCGenerate - have at least a week remaining at 5-7 daily.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Coupla problems.

Too much liquidex, and then you're adding forma, which cuts estrogen, on top of it.

That's probably your biggest cause.

HCGen is best while on. Once you're off, if your LH is nil, there's nothing for the HCG to boost or maintain.

PCT isn't just picking a couple of things and doing and doing them any which way.

Do a 1000 iu shot of HCG and follow with some real adex at 1/4 tab EOD. Along with that, use UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE -- double dose for one week, then normal dose for 4 more weeks. You should be feeling better soon. Follow with BRIDGE.

Good luck.

 

[stevesmi]

k I will tell you what you did wrong first so you learn for the future.. Nelson touched on this and I will say the same thing.. you must not go into a PCT shutdown or you will be dealing with are hard landing like you are now. run hcg or hcgenerate while on. keep the nuts plump, this helps soften your landing. also you did not kickstart your PCT... you need to bump your hcg to 1000iu's 2X per week leading up to PCT as a kicker, and I also like to run a couple doses of HMG.

now what you can do now is run a new PCT again and start from scratch if you want.. or you can keep going and deal with the hard landing. I do like to run low dose Clomid with my PCT 15-25mg per day. along with unleashed/post cycle.

 

[Stryker1992]

k I will tell you what you did wrong first so you learn for the future.. Nelson touched on this and I will say the same thing.. you must not go into a PCT shutdown or you will be dealing with are hard landing like you are now. run hcg or hcgenerate while on. keep the nuts plump, this helps soften your landing. also you did not kickstart your PCT... you need to bump your hcg to 1000iu's 2X per week leading up to PCT as a kicker, and I also like to run a couple doses of HMG.

now what you can do now is run a new PCT again and start from scratch if you want.. or you can keep going and deal with the hard landing. I do like to run low dose Clomid with my PCT 15-25mg per day. along with unleashed/post cycle.

There seems to be confusion about this lately. HCG and HCGenerate must be or should be run during cycle.This may also include some sort of anti estrogen depending on what compounds one is running. PCT should include clomid, unleashed, post cycle, phytoserms, forged post cycle or something of that nature...

 

[Ranger11B]

well on top of that post/unleashed are pretty effin good, and are gonna help maintain what hcgen started while on. esp being 40 you wouldnt want to just jump into a pct 14 days off thats a failboat for sure... best advise has already been posted so plus 1 for that. dfont ever skimp on your pct regiment, its just as important as the cycle itself if not more.

 

[lazer84]

Thanks everyone - I'm going to see how it go's the next few days. If no improvement - clomid w/Post Cycle/Unleashed.

 

[Ranger11B]

dont forget to double dose it for the first week like nelson said.

 

[Ranger11B]

and just a side note, when you do the pct right most times you end up being so effin horny youll want to bang anything that walks by. When i was on hcgen post/unleashed and forma .. followed with bridge i couldnt keep it down i would have to bang like twice a night just to sleep lmfao..... so enjoy

 

[needtogetaas]

I just posted this in the PCT forum, but hoping for quick advice - I need it. damn

Hey guys,
I finished the following cycle about 3 wks ago
1-12 300mg Test Enth/wk
1-12 500mg primo/wk
1-12 liquidex .25 eod

I took 14 days off last pin and started the following

HCGenerate: 5-7 cap daily total (split up AM/PM)
Forma Stanzol: 3-5 squirts twice daily - currently cannot get anymore out of the bottle - trust me I tried everything.

Erections: Few
Orgasm: Pretty f'ing hard - takes forever
Slight aches in balls still.

I realize I probably planned a shitty PCT and I'm 40. What would you suggest I do now?

Thanks for your help.

My friend let me go down the thing you messed up on.

1. the estrogen thing is no big damn deal your use of forma-stanzol during pct is perfectly fine and in fact helping you.
but you did use a lot of dam ai during the cycle and that Ai was not a suicide aromatace in nature so when you stopped this abruptly along with the cycle it is likely that is causes estrogen rebound. And this is why the forma-stanzol like I said is helping you however it takes about a week for forma to reach peak levels. So the first and even into the 2nd week of pct you were dealing with some estrogen trouble... (sorry nelson I say your wrong on this one)

2. you are using hcgenerate for pct rather then during the cycle. You used no hcg nor hcgenerate during the cycle to prevent shut down. hcgenerate works good for pct and added sex drive but its best for on cycle or only for sex drive and stand alone its OK too but again its true creation is for on cycle use bro. But it should be giving you some sex drive increase however it could not do so do to the above reason and now also the 3rd reason I will add now.

3.UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM did anyone bother to notice you ran primo and ended the primo and test at the very same time???
dude the level of primo in your body right now today is prob still high.. yups

Now what you should have done is run the test 2 weeks past the primo. Then started pct the same day the cycle ended but ran a longer 6-8 week pct and not 4 weeks.

your cycle should have looks exactly like this for it to be right.

I finished the following cycle about 3 wks ago
1-16 300mg Test Enth/wk
1-14 500mg primo/wk
1-14 liquidex .25 eod
8-16 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm.
16-22 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm first 4 weeks drop down to 3 and 3 the last 2 weeks
16-20 unleashed and post cycle 1 cap 3 times a day of each
18-22 forged post cycle 2 caps am and pm ( or bridge 1 cap 3 times a day)

then after this follow up with a bottle of bridge to deal the deal but optional on that one...


WHat I would do now?
double dose the hcgenerate 5 caps am and pm till its gone
10 pumps am and pm on the forma till its gone
get a bottle of bridge, unleashed and post cycle and take all 3 1 caps 3 times day till they are all gone.

You may want to get another bottle of forma and run that 3 pumps am and pm along with the above just for about 2-3 weeks to taper off the forma. Your just going to need a longer pct because you ran the primo right up tot he last day with the test, you ran nothing to prevent shut down and you and the pct was not the greatest... So now adjust and fix bro thats all .. You will be fine trust me..

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