2-3 week cycles?

[wolfman87]

hey guys, i'm researching 2-3 week cycles and i want to know what yall think about them and what compounds to use. if i do decide to do one i'm gonna use prop 125mg ED for sure but what else should i use (i want to stay away from tren for now)? is there an oral that could be done for 3 weeks and actually show good results? maybe dbol with a higher dose like 60-80 mg's a day or something. i don't have my mind set on this i'm just throwing it out there.

 

[wolfman87]

has no one ever tried one or knew anyone that has?

 

[needtogetaas]

imo 2-3 weeks cycles are crap.others may like them though.

 

[TexasBB]

i really can't see how you can get any benefit from a 2-3 week cycle. for me it takes 2-3 weeks for the shit to kick in full anabolic mode, regardless of the type of esthers used. my problem is deciding when to stop!

 

[INNOCENT]

i usually dont feel test kick in to around wk 3 so that would just be pointless just to stay on for 2-3 wks.

 

[wolfman87]

have you done one needtogetas? if so what did you use to give you that opinion? if no one here has done one i guess i'll be the guinea pig once i can get my shit together. till then i want more ideas on what i can do!

 

[wolfman87]

you don't feel prop kick in till 3 weeks in?!? i guess that idea's out the window

 

[digimon7068]

my search function ain't workin' right now for some reason or i'd find the links. . .i think nelson has produced a fair amount of verbiage on the subject. . .i'm sure he'll chime in when he gets a chance. . .

 

[needtogetaas]

have you done one needtogetas? if so what did you use to give you that opinion? if no one here has done one i guess i'll be the guinea pig once i can get my shit together. till then i want more ideas on what i can do!

I have don kick starts on cycles with the short esters like prop,dbal,tren ace,and
they never kick in till week 2-3 so what is the point to using them 2-3 weeks when they just start working then stopping.what so I can get shut down then do some pct.not worth it.

 

[lifthard2005]

i would say 4 weeks min.

prop/npp or tren/dbol highly dosed for 4 weeks then off is nice

 

[wolfman87]

i see where you're coming from. it would have been my first so i thought i might as well just try that at first and see how it goes before i committed to larger cycle i had planned originally. i guess i'll just stick to my original plan. thanks for the warning.

 

[paradox]

I am a fan of 4-6 week cycles, any shorter then that I dont feel its all that effective IMO.

 

[Dogs442]

Whats going 2 happen is u r going 2 c some mild results after the 4th week and then u r going 2 kick yourself in the ass 4 gettin off. Spend more and do a real cycle.

 

[EtchedfromMarble]

Some people like 2-3 weeks cycles. Just gotta make sure you use the right gear. Test prop, tren ace, halo, anavar, winstrol, d bol

 

[Mac173]

Complete waste of time IMO.
Even w/ ace or prop I don't feel them until 10-14 days in.

 

[Varga]

Two weeks is too short although it has been tried before. Test suspension might be the only injectable worth taking for that short of a time along with an oral.
6 weeks cycle is a charm! Many cycles to chose from, moslty used for cutting though
If you really want to gain 8-12 weeks is super, and 16 weeks when you know what you doing!

 

[depotrone]

there should be a law that everyones first cycle is 500mg test enanthate or cypionate a week for 10 weeks! its like dropping your first drug, you will never experience that feeling again!

 

[SLAYER69!]

I don't start feeling it till by 4thwk now but I've been doing this a while. If your still in your 20's maybe sooner.

 

[yonkers weights]

Test Suspension would work for that short time. You can also do site injects with it.
If you want to grow a lagging body part.

 

[calyptus]

I think it's a Europe-thingy. I know people in the US regard us as "pussies" when it comes to steriods. We're waaaay to conservative in their eyes. You will rarely see "over 12 week" cycles over here, except for match athletes

2-3 week cycles can be very effective. Your own test won't be shut down as much, cortisone will stay down, your lipid profile will stay ok, your htpa won't be as surpressed, thus less sides also. You will make a full recovery in about 2 weeks, will not lose much gains, if any, dependant on the stuff used.

Most people, educated in steroids, in Europe(or at least in France) use the time-on+PCT=time off. With 4 week cycles, 2 weeks PCT(my favourite), this means 6 weeks rest before you start up your new cycle.
More advanced users wil go time-on=time off. That means you can do 3 small cycles in 12 weeks time.

What can you expect from 2-4 weeks cycles? Small to moderate gains, no to small setback due to the faster recovery.

Obviously for these cycles to work, you need a slightly higher dose, and the fastest acting esthers possible. (di)Prop/ace. Depending on the person, many people feel them after only 2-4 days. If you only feel them after 2 weeks, something is wrong. Either you have fake stuff, or your receptors are burnt out.

Another thing is that smaller cycles aren't the way to go for heavely advanced athletes. IMHO, it's the best choice for martial artist and the likes, as they can't afford a setback, and the short esters will make detection time a lot shorter.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I first wrote about one month cycles in 1998. They make sense. Not only is it easier to hold onto the gains, they're less supressive.

People make the mistake that gear takes time to kick in. This misconception has got to stop.

STEROIDS PUT YOU IN AN ANABOLIC STATE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

Bill Roberts took my idea and pulled the "2 week on, 2 week off" idea out of his ass. It got some attention. But that, I believe, is a terrible idea.

 

[fckstick]

you are not gonna get much out of that. i just ran a 5 weeker because i can't train hard enough to make it worth while. it was gonna be a 8 weeker and i would not go thru it to again to run for just 5 weeks. if you are gonna do that i would run
40mg dbol ed/75mg tren ace ed/test suspension 75mg ed

 

[EtchedfromMarble]

I think it's a Europe-thingy. I know people in the US regard us as "pussies" when it comes to steriods. We're waaaay to conservative in their eyes. You will rarely see "over 12 week" cycles over here, except for match athletes

2-3 week cycles can be very effective. Your own test won't be shut down as much, cortisone will stay down, your lipid profile will stay ok, your htpa won't be as surpressed, thus less sides also. You will make a full recovery in about 2 weeks, will not lose much gains, if any, dependant on the stuff used.

Most people, educated in steroids, in Europe(or at least in France) use the time-on+PCT=time off. With 4 week cycles, 2 weeks PCT(my favourite), this means 6 weeks rest before you start up your new cycle.
More advanced users wil go time-on=time off. That means you can do 3 small cycles in 12 weeks time.

What can you expect from 2-4 weeks cycles? Small to moderate gains, no to small setback due to the faster recovery.

Obviously for these cycles to work, you need a slightly higher dose, and the fastest acting esthers possible. (di)Prop/ace. Depending on the person, many people feel them after only 2-4 days. If you only feel them after 2 weeks, something is wrong. Either you have fake stuff, or your receptors are burnt out.

Another thing is that smaller cycles aren't the way to go for heavely advanced athletes. IMHO, it's the best choice for martial artist and the likes, as they can't afford a setback, and the short esters will make detection time a lot shorter.

Bingo...this guy knows his stuff big time.

 

[EtchedfromMarble]

I first wrote about one month cycles in 1998. They make sense. Not only is it easier to hold onto the gains, they're less supressive.

People make the mistake that gear takes time to kick in. This misconception has got to stop.

STEROIDS PUT YOU IN AN ANABOLIC STATE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

Bill Roberts took my idea and pulled the "2 week on, 2 week off" idea out of his ass. It got some attention. But that, I believe, is a terrible idea.

Good to see you on the board! I read your article on T nation about short cycling...great stuff!

 

[Varga]

Bingo...this guy knows his stuff big time.

Not really, he just repeating what he read on other forums.
To the original poster, give credit where credit is due ma'man. Sumarizing an article does not make it your ideas

 

[chazk]

2 weeks cycles did nothing for me but water gain and water loss.test prop and dbol

I would imagine you might have to do 4 to 6 of them over a few months time to get any results.

 

[Varga]

Just food for thought......about these short cycles

Why would I want to do a 3 week cycles with a 2 weeks PCT instead of 10week cycle with 3 weeks PCT?
That means you are shut down anyway. It's like the yo-yo diet. By the end of 2-3 of these short cycles your body is so fucked up you will need a longer PCT just to get back to normal.

I have done a few short 3 weekers and the feel I got is that right when I was getting into it I had to stop. Useless IMHO.

 

[solidspine]

Basically a waste of time and money,

Need a minimum of 8 weeks, 10 better and 12 is about ideal for a decent cycle,


Also on any cycle you will always need Anti E’s and PCT
2 weeks cycles included,

 

[hayz]

2 - 3 weeks is a complete waste of time, nothing less than 6 weeks imo, i personally wouldnt do anything less than 8.

why waste the gear if you only see full effects from week 6 - 8