1st real cycle.. pros opinion appreciated

[uforia]

OK, Please allow me to introduce myself:

Name is Chris and live out in NJ!! Would like to say great board and great people here

been reading and learning alot. Back about 2+ years ago I did a sust 250 cycle for 8 weeks. gained about 12 pounds.

I am ready to do a more serious cycle.. I am torn between amount of sust to do...

Goin def. w/ 400mgs a week deca organon yellow cap(holland)

and most likely 250 mgs sust a week. Going to run both for 10 solid weeks. No taper. Have clomid for end and have nolv if needed.

My question is this: should I up dose to 500 mgs of sust? I am a bit scared of side effects running 900mgs of juice a week thats why I am leaning towards sust at 250. BUT.. I have also read that it is not a good idea to run deca higher then test for fear of deca dick. Plus I hear that the diference isn't that great from 250 to 500.

SO... I kind of came up w/ a happy medium.... maybe run the sust at 250 every 4 days... Which would be a bit more than 250 a week and a bit less then 500 a week.

What do you guys think???? I know alot of you are pros out there and I honor your opinions.

Let me give you my stats i'M 28 weigh about 170 about 13% body fat. Looking to put on some solid mass for now. I know everyone will suggest the good ol d-bols in teh beginning but I thik I'm gonna hold off till another future cycle. Don't think I nee the d-bol for now.

SO my maine question is this sust at 250 or sust at 500. Keep in mind I haven't had juice running through my veins or muscles for about 2 years.

Thanks in advance guys,

peace,
Chris

 

[anabolic24/7]

I never would go below 500mg test and here's why.
Your natural test levels are close to what 250mg of test equals. So the first few weeks your test levels will be around 500mg, so to speak. As your natural test production ceases and you are only injecting 250mg you will be at the equivalent of natural test levels, not very much test actually.

 

[CONTRACTION]

Yes, go with 500mg/wk sust. If you know how esters work, you know you wont at 900mg/wk in your system...at least not initially. You wont feel a big impact until around week 5 and then you will only be peaking for about 4-5 weeks till the end of your cycle. Deca will not kick in until week 4/5 also. Just have your nolvadex or arimidex on hand in case and you wont have any worries. Personally I believe sust works the best if used every day or every other day. You take advantage of all the esters that way. I dont recommend someone in your situation do that, I'm saying maybe you should choose a test with a different ester like enanthate or cypionate. You will get more out of it that way and not waste so much. Just my opinion...

 

[uforia]

Thanks for the info bro. I was under the impression that the averge guy produces between 8-10 mgs of test. a day which would equate to about 70 mgs a week which is alot less then what sust250 would pump into ya@250 mgs a week???

Also I was told that 500 would be a bit much because the receptors would be flooded at 250 for a beginner. Which I don't believe to be true. I totally believe that 500 will give better results then 250 but in my situation I think I could benefit from 250 and 400 mgs of deca for now and maybe save the 500 sust, 400 deca and 30-35 mgs d-bol for a later cycle. I'm assumingf that once I go to the 500 I would never be able to do the 250 and acheive results correct???

As always thanks for your opinions and comments guys

peace,
Chris

 

[CONTRACTION]

If you are determined to go with 250mg/wk, which it seems you are, then I would say to start the cycle with some dbol @30mg/wk for about 5 weeks.

A more important question is what kind of results do you want?? If you dont want huge/big gains, then your idea is fine.

 

[anabolic24/7]

200mg of test a week is a therapudic dose for people with low test levels.
As contradiction said it's what you want. If you dont expect or want to be large and impressive, then dont do larger amounts.

 

[CONTRACTION]

Ohhh, I see you said before you dont want to do dbol. Ok, go with something like this:

500mg the first 2 weeks and then 250mg/wk for the rest of the cycle.

 

[CONTRACTION]

200mg of test a week is a therapudic dose for people with low test levels.
As contradiction said it's what you want. If you dont expect or want to be large and impressive, then dont do larger amounts.

I agree...

 

[anadrolstack]

well

I agree with contraction. If you are gonna do sust, DO IT!!

 

[uforia]

Thanks for the info and responses.....

I like your last suggestion about going w/ sust@500 for the first 2 weeks then 250 for remaining 8.

Front loading the sust like that will keep the levels a bit above the 250 mark which is what I want, and below the constant 500 for 10 weeks dose.

I think I have found my solution!!

Thanks guys... I will post results and gains as they come in!!

peace,

Chris