1st cycle test e / primo

[Moussa T]

hello mates
after long time reading and " searching " i got this cycle on hand and just looking forward to have your opinions guys , im not running 500 test dont want the bloat and can handle gyno if it flares up at this low dosage ? and from what i've read primo is fine to run on 1st cycle and wise quality gains .



1 - 10 Test E 250 ew
1 - 12 primo 400 ew

Pct - clomid and nolva ( supps on cycle multi vit - liv52 )
diet in check high protein low carb , goal to gain lean mass while cutting off some BF%


cycles history
Anavar 60 mg / 8 weeks

stats
age 31
Weigh 76kg
Height 5,7
BF 14 - 15 %

 

[burnthiscorpse]

If you have done any research at all then you would know that nolva + clomid is a garbage pct and that it does nothing to raise your natty test or restart it. You make no mention of HCG during cycle or pre pct? So your going to have raisin nuts going into pct. Which will make it 100 times harder for them to try to turn themselves on and work when they are struggling to get back to full size your entire pct. Nolvadex is complete garbage also.
Read through the hundreds of posts here on proper pct and learn not just what people run for a successful pct but why.

 

[Moussa T]

yes sure will be running hcg during the cycle wk 5 -7 to pct , clomid daa

 

[burnthiscorpse]

yes sure will be running hcg during the cycle wk 5 -7 to pct , clomid daa

Good with the HCG then.


PCT is no where near where it needs to be.

 

[Moussa T]

cant get hands on N2GUARD and HCGenerate etc the pct u guys promote here , but in so many other sites clomid and or nolva could be a good pct with the low dosage cycle im bout to do

http://www.hcgenerate.com

 

[burnthiscorpse]

cant get hands on N2GUARD and HCGenerate etc the pct u guys promote here , but in so many other sites clomid and or nolva could be a good pct with the low dosage cycle im bout to do

http://www.hcgenerate.com

Yeah, some guys promotre it. I dont make money here or sponsor anything. I do the shit because it works. I have taken 90% of the shit we talk about. You need to understand why your pct ISNT going to work before you can move forward. Things change things evolve. Cars, computers, people and even PCT. 90% of everyone is still in the stone age with PCT. If you wish to move out of the stone age then please do some reading. It doesnt matter the size of your cycle. You will still be shut down. Test shuts you down hard.

 

[Moussa T]

thank u m8 i still have one week ahead of me before starting so will sort out the PCT, do you think its a good cycle to run for 1st time ?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

As a first injectable cycle peronally I would pick one or the other and run it.

 

[JINX2898]

ditto.....first cycle should be a low test cycle...at MOST 500mg/wk... then get some aromasin,12.5mg EOD might want to run it with hc generate and post cycle..unleashed for pct.....N2GUARD is priceless my friend...i wouldnt run any gear without it....wait for it and then run ur gear...just my 2cents..start with a test only cycle at first.....But like Burn said....ya gotta do some reading.....lots of it first... Haste makes waste

 

[training700]

I think it's fine for a first cycle

 

[dallascowboys25]

My first cycle was test-e 250mg a week and primo 600mg a week for 12 weeks . it was great

 

[JTJT123]

I like your cycle. I'll be running something similar in a few months. Ditch the SERMS and try to grab around 3 amps(75 iu LH/75 iu FSH per amp) of HMG to use spread out between weeks 13 and 15 of your cycle. You could also use an amp once every 2 weeks during your cycle to keep your balls from hibernating, but since most won't want to deal with the cost of that you could go the usual route of 250iu of HCG 2x's per week starting on week 3 of your cycle or you could just do 1000 iu of HCG every 2 weeks or so-nobody really knows what the perfect protocol is so you're gonna have to figure it out for yourself. Just bear in mind the higher the dose of HCG that you use the more you need to worry about leydig cell desensitization. This doesn't seem to be a concern with HMG so personally I just spend the extra money and do an amp every couple of weeks while on cycle and then a few more as the gear is clearing my system. As to the natural supps to be used during PCT-Unleashed is very good. I'm not a rep here so I've nothing to gain by endorsing it. I didn't use steroids until I was 33 so I've used almost every natty test booster known to man and I can tell you that Unleashed is at the top of the list in terms of promoting libido and sexual function and you'll probably want that during PCT unless you're a monk or a convict. Also-good Bulgarian Tribulus-some people say it does shit but if you get a good source and mega dose it-3 grams or so per day during the first 2 or 3 weeks of PCT it will really help with energy and maintaining strength in the gym-some studies also say it helps boost LH which is a big plus during recovery. Also-Prolensis Bulbine-probably the best of the best in terms of boosting total Test available today-search for logs on the net and you should find some folks posting positive bloodwork. Other than that I'd use a good full spectrum vitamin e like toco 8-if you can still get it-as well as creatine for anabolic support and hefty doses of vitamins c to combat the cortisol surge you get when you stop anabolics and you should be good to go.

 

[masterkush81]

I think the Primo has to be run much stronger. Like 800 mg per week min... to see good results... Im starting mine in a few months It should be sweet...

 

[JTJT123]

I think the Primo has to be run much stronger. Like 800 mg per week min... to see good results... Im starting mine in a few months It should be sweet...

nah-definitely not on a first cycle and especially if he's using the real deal bayer scherings.