1st cycle ready to go

[slikk_wid_it]

waddup bros,

I'm 37 bout to enter the darkside. been lifting off and on since i was 15. always lacked consistency. been very consistent the last 18 months.

Currenty 170lbs 13%bf at 5'8"

week1 winny mwf 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week2 winny mwf 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week3 winny mwfs 50mg orals + 300mg Primo + 500 Sustanon
week4 winny mwfs 50mg orals + 300mg Primo + 500 Sustanon
week5 winny mwfs 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week6 winny mwf 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week7 winny mwf 50mg orals + 100mg Primo + NO Sustanon
week8 winny mwf 50mg orals + 100mg Primo + NO Sustanon

got nolvadex and clen to use if needed. Will eat 3000 clean calories (approx 1.5g Protein per bodyweight lbs)

my bad, i got my gear before doing enough research. i now believe i am underdosed. but I'll leave that for u bros to say. maybe this stack will help strengthen my joints and prepare me for future cycles.

please give your thoughts on the above cycle.

also, give your opinions for a 2nd cycle


Any insight is much appreciated!!

~slikk

 

[ziggyziggy]

I don't think you will like most, of any, of the responses that you get.

Zig

 

[Mini Viper]

waddup bros,

I'm 37 bout to enter the darkside. been lifting off and on since i was 15. always lacked consistency. been very consistent the last 18 months.

Currenty 170lbs 13%bf at 5'8"

week1 winny mwf 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week2 winny mwf 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week3 winny mwfs 50mg orals + 300mg Primo + 500 Sustanon
week4 winny mwfs 50mg orals + 300mg Primo + 500 Sustanon
week5 winny mwfs 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week6 winny mwf 50mg orals + 200mg Primo + 250 Sustanon
week7 winny mwf 50mg orals + 100mg Primo + NO Sustanon
week8 winny mwf 50mg orals + 100mg Primo + NO Sustanon

got nolvadex and clen to use if needed. Will eat 3000 clean calories (approx 1.5g Protein per bodyweight lbs)

my bad, i got my gear before doing enough research. i now believe i am underdosed. but I'll leave that for u bros to say. maybe this stack will help strengthen my joints and prepare me for future cycles.

please give your thoughts on the above cycle.

also, give your opinions for a 2nd cycle


Any insight is much appreciated!!

~slikk

Hi bro,

Welcome but I dont think this is a very good first cycle in terms of using Primo and Winny (mainly used for cutting), sustanon is fine but I mean you ARE after more mass right?
I would suggest for a first cycle a more test based products such as Sustanon, Test Cyp and Test Prop.

My first cycle was:

wk 1-3 dbol 25mg every day
wk1-12 sus 500mg per week

I gained 8lbs of lean mass and kept it!!!!

Bro I would suggest you concentrate on your first cycle and think about your second cycle later.

This is my opinion of course hopefully more bros here will give their opinions too!

Peace
MV

 

[Ozz2001]

5 weeks of sus isnt going to do much of anything expecially at 250 a week..
500 should be the start of using it if your going to run only 250 and you wont see anything till at least 2 to 3 weeks after you start so this cycle idea you planned isnt very good at all...Probably get more from 250 sus for 12 weeks then the hole cycle put together! 500 sus for 10 to 12 weeks would be better and kick in some dbol to like stated above,i take it 4 to 5 weeks at begining only because if your going to do it, do it right the first time and gain a good 18 to 20lbs off the get go! Save the whinny for later on when you want to bridge...Just my 2 cents your money your time your hard work,way waste it,,,,, What do i know i am just a rail myself with no clue..

 

[glover]

You should consider doing only four weeks of Winny 50 mgs every day. And you can get rid of the taper and just do an even dose for 10 or 12 weeks. Clen is not for pct, did you mean clomid? At your age pct is more important. What are your plans?

 

[IRONBULL05]

Hey bro,welcome.
I would drop the winny and primo idea,and move the sust up to 500mg awk(250 Mon,250 Thurs)for 12wksSave the winny and primo for later cycles.You want to know how you react to the test only cycle now so you can adjust accordingly for future cycles.You will make great gains on the test if your training and diet are right on.
At the most I would add d-bol at 20-30mg ed for the first 4 wks to kickstart the cycle until the test starts to work.

 

[slikk_wid_it]

Actually the replies have been helpful....so far.

i guess buying the "Chemical Wizardy" from George wasn't such a swell idea for cycle ideas!

I like the advice given so far, i think i need to cop some more Sust.

The clen will be saved for a cutter cycle down the road along with the winny and primo.

all praise is due

 

[satchboogie]

considering you only weight 170 pounds, and eating 3k cals a day, you SHOULD be able to grow on the gear youre taking..

although the choice of compounds is a little puzzling to me...

i would do one of the following:

1) add 250mg sustanon per week and DROP the primo and winstrol.
2) add 400-500mg primo per week and DROP the sustanon and winstrol

by the way.. winny is garbage unless youre already very lean.. and at 13% youre not.

 

[slikk_wid_it]

Right on Satch bro, good info

ok folks, i have seen the light....

250mg sust e4d is the recipe

i shot my 2nd weekly shot this morning. i always did like needles

4 days on and i wanna bang out all the lovelies i see in my new town... funny thing is, my dreams are uhmm, very vivid to say the least

will keep everyone posted.

pEace

 

[Razorguns]

Why such a short cycle???

It'll take 3-4 weeks just for it to kick in. So basically you're bustin' your ass to maximum the gear for a whopping 1 month.